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How long after receiving my first monthly check, will I get my Social Security Disability back pay?

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Learn about processing times for Social Security Disability back pay, factors that can delay it, and tips on how to speed up payment.

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Social Security Disability Back Pay and Ongoing Monthly Benefits

How you begin to receive your Social Security Disability benefits varies depending on several factors. Sometimes a person’s first payment will include all back pay through the prior calendar month and will then be followed by regular monthly benefits. At other times, Social Security has to do additional calculations before back benefits can be paid, and the Administration will start your regular monthly checks before releasing your Social Security Disability back pay.

Delays in Back Pay Due to Other Benefits

The most common reason for a lapse of time between your getting your first monthly benefit, if it comes first, and getting your disability back pay is that the Social Security Administration needs to calculate your Social Security disability benefit considering other benefits you are eligible to receive, such as workers compensation, government pension or Supplemental Security Income. For more information about how workers compensation affects Social Security Disability payment amounts, see our article “Can I Get Workers Compensation and Also Get Social Security Disability?” If you are eligible for Supplemental Security Income, also called SSI, and you received your SSI back pay before your Social Security back pay, your Social Security must be reduced by the amount of SSI you received for the same months that you are eligible to get Social Security. For more information about SSI, please visit our article “What Is Supplemental Security Income and How Is It Different from Social Security Disability?”

Speeding Up Payment of Social Security Disability Back Pay

Calculation and release of back benefits may be speeded up by providing everything the Social Security Administration has asked for, including documentation related to your workers compensation, government pension, and Supplemental Security Income claims. If you have received any type of workers compensation or have a workers compensation claim pending, give Social Security a copy of all the workers comp determination letters you have received. If Social Security is waiting for information directly from your workers comp insurer, you might check with Social Security to see if they have received everything they need and, if not, follow up with workers compensation to get it.

If you did not apply for SSI or you received an SSI denial letter, it is a good idea to contact Social Security about the reason your back benefits have not been released and, if they indicate it is due to calculating the SSI offset, let them know that you either did not apply for or were denied SSI and request release of payment.

If the Social Security Administration says they have what they need and they are working on it, it can be helpful to inquire when they expect to complete their processing and then follow up if you have not received your Social Security Disability back pay by that date.

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1,544 Comments

  1. Jakie says:

    Hello

    I’ve been looking around to find out the estimation as to when my kids (dependents)will be receiving the lump sum the Social security office told me. I was approved for Social security disability back in early January 2016 ,l and gave in the kids information, bank account routing numbers,SS numbers and so forth on June 8th, 2016 to the social security office. All of my kids are over 18 years old right now and were approved to receive a lump sum. However the person in social security office told me that my 3 kids will be getting the lump sum soon which comes to my question as to when. I am still married and I just want to know the estimation as to when they would be getting the so called lump sum check.
    Hopefully this is enough information help answer my question.

    Thank you !

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jakie,

      If the children have not received benefits by August 8, ask the local office to follow-up to the payment center.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  2. Sheri says:

    So, i have read many comments about people not receiving their back pay as expected and how it can take several months. My question is… My Award letter gave a date to expect my back pay, that was 2 weeks ago, I’ve been worried my back pay was stolen from mail or why not showing in my bank account as i gave all my direct deposit info. I’ve been worried sick that somehow my back pay ended up in the wrong hands.Wasn’t sure how that 1st check would arrive.
    So, even if the Award letter gives a date to expect the back pay payment, I still may wait several months?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sheri,

      Despite the letter, the payment may not have been authorized. I suggest that if you have an online account, you check to see if there is a payment amount and date. If you do not, you can call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 to learn whether a payment has been issued and whether it was sent as a check or direct deposit. If it was issued more than a week ago, wait a day or two and then report non-receipt if you haven’t received it.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Mary Johnson says:

        I was told on Friday that my back pay was approve for 2199 she told me 10 to 15 days in I will get a check in the mail.is it true that my check could take only a week to come?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Mary,

          The representative has estimated how long it will take to complete the work on the claim and to deliver funds. If nothing interferes with the work getting done, the time frame should be accurate. However, note that usually the monthly payment starts before the back pay installment, so the ten to fifteen days may refer to the first monthly check.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Rhonda morris says:

      Dear kay
      My back pay has been in the prosessing center sunce may 3 different mgr request have been sent an still no date on when i will get it or how much an my local office has no answers what fo i do

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Rhonda,

        It is not uncommon for Social Security Disability back pay to pend for two months. If you don’t receive it by the end of July, you could contact your congressperson’s office and request that they follow up for you.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Crystal says:

      My sons award letter gave me a date of July 13th the monies will arrive. I called the main SS office and was told US Treasury released funds 7/5/16. I still haven’t received his monies.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Crystal,

        If the benefits are not received by Monday, the 18th, I suggest that you file a report of non-receipt.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • angela mckaskle says:

      Hi Kay,
      I could not find how to post separately. My husband was approved in May, and should receive his first monthly payment in a few weeks. The children have already gotten their back pay, but they cannot give us an answer on his. Does it usually come close after his first payment? How should I follow up on it? He is a disabled vet and we have been waiting a long time to pay bills, etc. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you,
      Angela

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Angela,

        Back pay for the disabled worker often seems to take a couple months after benefits have started. He can follow up by asking the local office to send an inquiry to the payment center, although the request may not speed anything up. If it is is not paid with three months of monthly benefits starting, he could consider contacting his congressperson’s office to see if they will check on it for him.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Jennifer says:

      Sorry for posting my question here, didn’t know how to begin a new question.

      I am hoping to receive some insight and guidance. My fiance was found fully favorable after a court date back in Jan. of this year. We received the awards letter the beginning of Feb. We have to go through the process of setting up a rep. payee. — He was award back pay back to the beginning of Jan. 2014. While we were at the main local office here in Boston, after being set around in loops for a month at another local office, the manager of this office, told us she was in charge of his case now and would be keeping an eye on it.. we actually applied at this point in time for benefits for our daughter under my fiance.The manager told us, in May (because she finally got in touch with us for an appointment after noone knew what we were talking about at the other office, in regards to a rep. payee.), to give her until the end of the month and he will receive all payment due. Well we received a payment, but it was the full back pay for our daughter.. which I was under the impression that would come second to my fiance’s. Okay no problem, the month was not over. At this point we have already gotten two monthly payments for him. March in April and April in May. When May came and gone we waited a couple more weeks.. we know the processes is not perfect and we must wait our turn. When the middle of June came we decided to call our local office for an update, maybe there was something we did not complete or needed to be updated. The women said everything looked great and we could expect a payment in 7-14 business days (She sent request to the payment center while I was on the phone and they responded with 7-14)!! Yayy! Well— not so much, 7-14 business days came and went and we waited another couple days, because the women that told us this said to call back if it was not deposited. We called back to our local office, only to be told — you have to wait, it takes 60 days, it takes two payment cycles, it takes two months from the awarded judgement. If the person had looked at the file— it has been nearly 6-7 months. We have done everything they have asked. Now, we had a lawyer through the whole process, they have tried to put in request and by law can only call every 30 days– their hands are tied and they agree this is taking wayyyy to long! We decided to get in touch with a congress person a few weeks ago… they have still not been able to get social security to call them back with a date. I don’t know where else to turn. Like everyone else, we too have bills and responsibilities that are wayy past due. We have been patient and kind, but it is not helping. Any advice you can offer, we will take! Thank you kindly!

      Best regards,
      Jen

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jen,

        It sounds as if you have done everything you can do; all you can do at this point is wait.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  3. Edward Davis says:

    I received a fully favorable decision in February 25 2016. I received an award letter at the end of March. I am owed around 35,000 in backpay. I called in May and was told it would take around 4 – 6 weeks after my first check. I got that check May 18. I called today it’s been 6 weeks. I was told SSA sent it to processing center in May. I was told it would be another 8 to 10 weeks from today. I did not apply for SSI I have no back taxes or student loans. The SSA representative said she sent a message to the processing center to expedite the processing. I am in the same situation as most is here all savings gone any help I was receiving was cut off once I got the first check. I am in serious trouble financially and seems I have fell into some kind of black hole. Is this a common thing or is this really going to take another 2 months. If anybody can tell me what I have to do because I’m going to be moving into my mothers. FYI it took 2 years and a month to get a hearing.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Edward,

      You have taken the action you can for now in that the local office has sent a follow-up to the payment center. Often back pay takes two months after the first payment is received, but usually not as long as you are being told. If you have not received the back pay with three months of the first monthly payment, you might consider calling your congressperson’s office to see if they will follow up on it for you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  4. Dorothy says:

    Hello there I was approved for SSI back on April 29, 2016. I have started getting my monthly benefits which started in June. I even have Direct Deposit all set up as well. My case has been moving rather quickly which I’m surprised since others I’ve known had to wait years before they were approved. I was curious about the back pay though my lawyer hasn’t been paid yet and I already received a letter telling me how much of the back pay I would receive a year’s worth and how much my lawyer would receive as well. I still owe out of poket expenses which I can’t pay yet I don’t receive enough monthly for that. I was just curious as to how much I have to wait is all.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dorothy,

      You posted under a Social Security article, but you reference SSI, which is Supplemental Security Income (SSI). If you were approved for SSI, the benefits are authorized locally and you should get the first installment of your back pay within a month. If you were approved for Social Security Disability (SSD), back pay often pends two months after the first monthly benefits start.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  5. Lisa says:

    Hi Kay

    I haven’t been able to pay my installment agreement with the IRS during the time I was waiting for my hearing and now I still can’t, waiting for my monthly benefit and retro. Can the IRS garnish my monthly benefit or retro payment?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lisa,

      Yes, the IRS can garnish up to 15% of your Social Security benefits to collect back taxes. If garnishment is intended, you will receive a notice with thirty days to respond.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  6. anonymous says:

    Hi Kay,

    Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my questions. I just received my award letter yesterday and It was signed last week on the 15th. Is this actually a award letter & what night the next paper I get be called? Or maybe the next on is the award letter? I was partially found favorable. My date was back to May. I’m receiving SSD and was wondering what would be my first payment month. They went back to my 50th BD and that’s the beginning of May. With the 5 month wait, does that mean I get a payment for Nov 1st? Or as I’ve heard they pay a month behind. Also, when should I receive a monthly check? My attorney told me to ask SS questions and SS told me to just wait for the next letter. One more thing. Sorry. Does my attorney only get 25% through the day of the judge signing this approval?
    Thank you!

    • anonymous says:

      I was awarded back to May 2015.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Anonymous,

      If you were approved May 1, then May through September are the five waiting-period months and benefits would begin to accrue in October to be paid in November. If the onset date was established any other day in may, benefits would be begin to accrue in November to be paid in December. SSD is paid on a Wednesday. Which Wednesday–first, second, third or fourth–of the month depends on your day of birth. Back benefits for a hearing approval ends with the month before the month of the judge’s approval letter unless the case was remanded for a second hearing.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Cynthia says:

        My daughter has a back pay due to her for about 3000 it is the second half of her back pay given I. June of 2014 we are still waiting 2 years later I call and they don’t call back I go down there and they said it would be released in 2 days it hA now been 2 weeks and I just called the main ssi office and it has not been released and there is nothing pending. How do I make them release this money?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Cynthia,

          I suggest calling your congressperson’s office to ask whether they will follow up on the release of your daughter’s back benefits.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • anonymous says:

      Hi, Thank you for your response. I was wanting to ask another question please. I have a my SSA account and it finally says I’m receiving. I do not have direct deposit and it says one time payment of 7-8-16, it also shows the amount. . Does that mean they have made out a check and sent it to me? Or does it just mean it will be drawn up soon? I have not received a monthly payment yet.
      Thank you for your time!

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Anonymous,

        July 8 is the date the payment was authorized. it can take a couple bank runs to load it to a DirectExpress card if you have one or to mail out the check. If you haven’t received anything by the 20th, report non-receipt.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  7. Perry says:

    Hi Kay,
    I Live In Maine.
    After being denied SSD twice since 2012, I hired a lawyer. I went in front of the Judge in February 2015… April 2015 received Denial Letter. Filed an appeal On April 22 , 2016.
    I got a letter of Partial Approval and given 30 days to Appeal it. I did not appeal.
    On May 26 , 2016, My Partial Favor was Approved due to Error in Law.. 202.04.. due to my ” Advanced Age’ and they will only go back as far as, October 28 , 2014 as onset of my disability.
    I am now waiting for my Award Letter. i understand They take 5 months away from that time of onset.. So I am receiving back pay for only 19 months.. They will NOT pay my lawyer because she had nothing to do with Their decision. That’s where I stand as of.. Today, June 13 , 2016…..
    Questions…… When should I get my award letter?? and Start receiving payments, and How do I pay my Lawyer??? Will it take long to get my back pay??
    Thank You For Your Time And Knowledge……

    • Perry says:

      * I mean i only get 14 months back pay..

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Perry,

      It typically takes sixty to ninety days after you get the letter for benefits to start. The award letter can come before benefits begin, but not always. Once you get your back pay, you can write a check to your lawyer and pay him or her directly. Fees should be described in your contract with the attorney; usually they are the lessor of 25% of back pay and $6,000. I suggest that you let the attorney know you will pay directly so that the attorney does not confuse things by appealing to SSA for payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Perry says:

        Hi Kay and Thank You… I did sign a fee agreement with her so I guess i can just pay her… I called the Lawyers Rep and told her about this… She didn’t file an appeal on her payment… Then my Local SS office called to go over information and she said a couple of weeks to get the ball rolling… so i guess I’m on the right path…. Thanx again… You Rock … Patty

  8. Julia says:

    I have been receiving SSDI since April 1, 2016. I received my award letter March 17, 2016 and my attorney was paid on March 17, 2016. It is now June 10th, I received SSDI for the months of April, May and June.

    As of this writing, I have not received my retroactive pay. Every time I contact the SSA office or visit my local office presenting a dire need, I am told to wait 30-45 days. My last telephone call, I was told every time I call I get put to the back of the bundle for processing. I was finally told my retroactive payment is in a pending status now. It has just been sitting and the payment center had not released payment. Does it really take 3 months to receive retroactive payment from two years?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Julia,

      I doubt that your claim goes to the bottom of the stack when you inquire. Back pay often takes a couple months after monthly benefits start and sometimes more. If you make a written statement of dire need–such as needing the back pay to keep from being evicted or having a foreclosure or to pay a large surgical or other medical co-pay or to move out of a dangerous living situation, that statement should be sent to the payment center. The claim would, though, still wait in line its turn behind other dire need claims. All that said, if you have not received payment within four months of receiving your first payment, you might go to the office and request a manager-to-manager call to the payment center for a status. If that is not successful, at four months, you might consider asking your congressperson’s office to follow up to the payment center.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • dale r miller says:

        Kay i have been told by my local social security office reps the same thing Julia was told ,that if i continued to call and ask about my lump sum that i would be put to the back of the pile, i will be talking to my congressman about this unprofessional woman from my local office this week!

  9. LaToya Crowder says:

    Dear Kay
    My son was approved for SSI benefits back in January I received his first monthly check in April but I have yet to receive his back pay I set up the dedicated account back in March my local office sent me out the dedicated account form to fill out back in April and I sent it in and I haven’t heard anything from them how long is it going to take me to receive the back pay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear LaToya,

      If you haven’t received the back benefits paid into the Dedicated Account by the end of June, follow up. Also be sure to read up on the limited range of things you can pay for with the Dedicated Account funds. Information is available at https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200602140.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • LaToya says:

        Thanks Kay for replying now they say the first installment is dated for the 2nd of July so when do you think it will be deposited in the dedicated account cause it wasn’t in there today

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear LaToya,

          The date may be the issuance date with one or more overnight bank computer runs for the money to reach the account. The 2nd was a Saturday and the next business day with a computer run would be the 5th so I wouldn’t look for it before the 6th.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  10. Rebecca says:

    I received an award letter for one full year of back pay back in January 2015, I received my first disability check in February 2016, it is now June 1, 2016 and I have not received any back pay. I called today to see what on earth is taking so long. The Social Security disability agent said he sees no reason why I have not been paid and sent a letter to the Department of the treasury for the immediate release of my back payments. He said it should take two weeks to get a response once he sends this letter today. He said generally after you receive your first disability check that they should close out the account in 30 to 45 days. if there is a problem generally there is a note or a letter in your file which explains a delay. I was wondering if the letter in two weeks might tell me when I might get the distribution of my back pay and how much it will be. Why does the checks come from the Department of the Treasury? boy if you owe them money the access you penalties and interest payments. Can I hope to see a check soon? also if it is a full year of backpay will they send a paper check or direct deposit that into my account? Kay and information would be helpful
    Rebecca

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rebecca,

      The notification from the local office goes to the Social Security payment center to release funds. When the payment center completes the authorization to release, it then notifies the Treasury Department, which makes all payments because they have the money, not SSA. If you haven’t received the money within three weeks, try following up again. It will be paid to your bank account if the monthly benefits are going to the bank account.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • My name is tykeeya I was just approved for ssdi my first check will be July 2016 but I’m waiting on back pay they told me my claim is in the processing center it is June 6 2016 and my kids were put on my benefit I recieved paper checks for them today it was they’re back pay so how long will it take to get my back pay now

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Tykeeya,

          Usually the worker’s back pay is released before the children’s, but you are the second person this week to report the children’s back pay being released first. If you have not received it in a month, ask your local office to send an inquiry to the payment center.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Missy says:

            Hi Kay,
            My child is the one who receives the ssi. We have received three payments but still no backpay. I called and spoke with representatives who informed me that the case worker never mailed us out a SSA-552 form. We received it two days later and mailed it back same day along with bank information. I would like to know what is the time frame of waiting? Will they send anything in the mail?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Missy,

            It will depend on how soon the information on the form is processed. It could take from a week to a few weeks depending on how busy the office is. If you haven’t received payment within three weeks, you might try following up to be sure the form was received and associated with your child’s claim.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Donna says:

        My husband got his award letter on May 13th 2016 from the judge. We are so far behind on bills due to his hospitalization. How much longer will it be for us to recieve his SSDI back pay? He has already received his first SSD check. My check just don’t pay all the bills and we have 3 yrs worth and it has ruined our credit :(

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Donna,

          Your husband should receive his back pay within one to two months after the first monthly check. If he does not receive it, he can ask the local office to check on its status at the payment center.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ellen,

      If you are unable to work and earn $1,130 per month, I recommend that you file a claim and get a formal decision. To be eligible you have to be unable to perform work for which you have skills or that can be learned on the job. You can read how this is determined in first article under the “Claims Process” tab at the top of this web page.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Ashley Murray says:

      Hello, I received full favor on my disability case in April 2016 with backpack from January of 2014. I haven’t received a payment yet and when I called they confirmed by account and routing number and said my claim was already processed and I would receive a letter in their mail of when and how much. I’ve already received a letter in May saying my lawyer was paid, when should I expect mine to start? When does back pay usually arrive?

      Thanks!

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Ashley,

        Release of Social Security monthly benefits and back pay varies quite a bit, sometimes up to two months after release of attorney fees.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  11. Jeanne says:

    I got a fully favorable decision on disability last year. I got my “1st” award letter stating what I will get and when I will start getting it. No back pay was on it. I got my first disability check in January 2016. I inquired constantly about my back pay and was even told 2 weeks ago that social security didn’t owe me a thing when I went up to the social security office. This is the end of May and just received a “2nd” award letter with back pay included. After I set up a “representative”, when can I expect payment of the back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeanne,

      If you have gotten an award letter with itemized back payment, I would expect you to receive payment within a month of a representative payee application being filed. However, I am surprised that you were paid a monthly check and then told you need a representative payee for payment of the back pay and future monthly payments.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Nisha says:

        Hi KAY i received my first back pay in December when shall I receive the last of my back pay!!

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nisha,

          The next SSI back pay installment up to $2,199 should be paid in June. If more than that is due to you, the last payment will be received in December 2016.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Mary says:

            Hi Kay my son who is 5 was approved for Ssi because of a few disabilities on Jan 6,2016. He has his own separate bank account and everything. I received a call today for his caseworker and she says she will not be giving us no back here’s a list of the thing she said.

            1. She says he has too have two bank accounts one for regular payments and one for backpay is this correct?

            2. She says that when we get that opened we still will not receive no backpay, because only way they will release anything is for medical bills. The catch to that when he was found disabled they put him on medicaid. So there is NEVER a bill. So it the money just going to sit even he need others things?

            3. She says we can’t not use the backpay for nothing. We can’t get his shoes, clothes, and other little medical things he need. We have to call and ask her and then she will decide rather to release something to us or not.

            4. She herself sent me a book with the papers she sent and the Book says I can use it in anyway that benefits him like buying shoes, clothes, a house, and a car now she saying that’s no so but its in writing in a book she gave me!

            What is the best route to take? It have been problems since day one with her and supervisor does nothing. Who can I go to about both?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Mary,

            Some confusion exists. Back pay over a certain dollar amount has to go to a Dedicated Account, which has restricted use such as for medical treatment or education or job training when he is older and a few other disability-related uses. You can read about allowable uses at https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/spotlights/spot-dedicated-accounts.htm. You might be able to use it for transportation to get him to medical appointments. Regular monthly benefits can be used for housing, food, clothing, recreation, school supplies, or any other of your son’s needs.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Robin says:

      Hi Kay
      I could use some advise. I have stage 4 metastatic breast cancer of the bone. I applied for SSD only and was approved April 17 2016 for back pay and monthly benefits since my SSA determined I was disabled as of March 2013. I received my first monthly stipend May 2016.

      I have called SSA twice to see if someone could tell me when i could expect my backpay esp considering my prognosis and still no backpay. Here is my question because I got my SSD expedited due to Compassionate Allowance will the SSA also expedite my backpay? And in my case do you know how long i might wait?

      They sent me a “ticket to work” but no one knows when my money is coming i have been told its coming – well so are hurricanes and floods lol I would like to take my daughter on a trip prior to my health tanking.

      Thank you for your help!

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Robin,

        Ask the local office to send a message to the payment center that your claim was expedited as a compassionate allowance and ask them to request that the back pay be processed accordingly. If you do not receive the funds within a month after that, see if your congressperson will follow up for you.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Robin says:

          Thank you Kay for your help, I will do as you have suggested.

          Many many Thanks!
          Robin

          • Kay Derochie says:

            You are welcome, Robin.

          • angel says:

            Dear kay
            Do social security still issue paper check or they automatically send a direct express card thanks for any info that you can provide

            Angel

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Angel,

            Social Security will send a paper check for a limited period of time; then you will be asked to either open a bank account or set up a DirectExpress card. Alternatively, you can provide bank account information or request payment to a DirectExpress card from the beginning.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  12. Rene Gothard says:

    Hi Kay,

    January 2016 I was sent an award letter saying I won my disability case. I quickly went to my local Social Security office that month and gave them everything they asked for including the bank’s routing number and bank account number for direct deposit of my monthly payments and my back pay. I started receiving my monthly payments immediately. However, it’s now May 29, 2016 and I’ve not received my back pay. Going to my local office was no help. They just looked me up on their computer and said I was in the system and my back pay was “being processed”. They give me the same answer every time and I’ve been going to them every month to check but they tell me at the local office that they have no further information, not even an estimated date when I might receive my back pay. Do you or anyone reading my posted comment here knows who I can contact to follow up on this that will actually be able to tell me something like a date when I can expect my back pay or someone who can help me expedite this situation?

    Thank you,

    Rene’

    • Rene Gothard says:

      Oh and I forgot to say it’s my SSDI back pay that I’m waiting on which is not processed at my local Social Security office but in some processing center out of state (I’m in Northern California).

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rene,

      The local office has no control over the payment center work loads. However, if you do not have the back pay within a month you can either ask to speak to the supervisor in the local office and ask for a manager-to-manager call to the payment centeror ask your congressperson’s office to follow up to the payment center for you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  13. Sharon says:

    Hi Kay – my son turns 18 on May 31st. He is receiving auxiliary benefits because his Dad is deceased. He graduates on May 26th. I received the notice in March about his benefits ending on the month prior to his birthday. I received benefits for April in May. I realized that Social Security is paid a month behind. My question is will he receive a payment in June for May because he was still in school in May or was the check received in May for April the last payment he will receive? I didn’t complete the paperwork because he is going into the military but he is still in school until the end of May and his birthday is not until the last day in May? Will he receive a check in June for May in his name?

    Thanks as always for your help?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharon,

      Typically when eligibility ends benefits in the middle of a month (even the last day), the month is not paid. The rationale is that full benefits are paid for the full month at the beginning of entitlement to retirement and when a dependent child is born even if the birthdays are in the middle of the month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Nicole says:

      I was approved fully favorbale decision on April 25th I contacted the payment center my self to see what the status was on 5/12/16
      I was told to call back the following week for an update I called back the person they assigned my case was out sick and he insured me that It would be handled I got an call back on 5/16 asking me for my banking information and other questions from the processing center. I got my award notice on 5/23/16 My lawyer was paid that same day. when can I expect my back pay ? my lawyer has been paid I don’t owe back taxes or workers comp or anything.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Nicole,

        The wait time for back pay can be as much as two months, but given how relatively quickly your processing of your claim has occurred thus far, you may receive it within a month though typically monthly benefits start first.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Sharon says:

      Dear Kay
      I’m sorry to come in on a reply but didn’t see where to go I applied for disability back in May 2015 got approved oct. 2015 I said I became disabled in December. 19 2014 just got my first check May 2016 I called social security on Friday and asked them if I would be getting any back pay and they told me no is that right everyone I’ve talked to said I would could u please help me out on this I’ve looked at other people’s questions and none of them were told what I was told thank you Sharon

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Sharon,

        Please see my reply of yesterday to your first post, which you posted under the article “If I Am Approved How
        Much Social Security Disability Back Pay Will I get?” under the After Approval tab at the the top of this webpage.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  14. Kathy says:

    Hello Kay,

    After an accident on Apr 29th, 2015, I filed for SSD, was denied with the reason that even though they found I was disabled, they didn’t feel the condition would last a year. The notice was dated Nov of 2015.

    I appealed the decision and was just approved for SSD, but was told I wouldn’t receive any back pay because they felt my disability began in Feb of this yr instead of Apr of 2015 when my accident was and to use Social Security’s own words from my deial notice in Nov of 2015, they already considered me disabled. They said I had to wait 5 months and then I would receive my monthly payments in Sept.

    My question is if I appeal the back pay decision, will that delay my monthly payments starting in Sept?

    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kathy,

      Appealing the disability onset date should not delay benefits from starting, but it does reopen the question of whether you are disabled. There is an outside chance of a determination that says you never became disabled. That would result in an overpayment of all benefits paid to you. That said, the fact that you were previously determined disabled in November 2015 and the letter says you became disabled in April 2015, I’d say you have a good chance of being successful with the appeal. I suggest requesting a copy of your claim file so you can see the evidence in file and form your appeal directly at the reasons for denial in addition to submitting a copy of the prior determination.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Cheetah Girl says:

      I was fully favorable January 31st 2016. I’ve called Social Security and they tell me. that they got my processing papers on March 31st. And I haven’t heard anything haven’t got any papers or anything what should I do and what’s going on ???everytime I call Social Security they tell me 30 days and 60 days.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Cheetah Girl,

        If you did not also have a Supplemental Security Income (SSI) claim, which would slow things up, I suggest going to your local office if you can and asking to a manager-to-manager call placed to the payment center to try to get your benefits started.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  15. Carl says:

    Ms. Kay. It has been nine weeks since award letter for ssdi was received. I called the local field office and the young man i spoke with told me the payment center was waiting on information from the field office. The young man assured me he was giving the payment center what they needed to release payment. (a denied ssi application). I have first hand knowledge that in the gooberment the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. Thus no date on when the payment center will respond. Being someone that answers these questions daily, I assume you have an average (ball park figure) on the response time. What say you?. Many Thanks.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Carl,

      It may be one or two more months after the payment center receives the information about the denied SSI claim before you get payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • joyce Gipson says:

        Hey kay i just got approve am waiting on my award letter i applied in jan 2016 am waiting on award letter and back pay but i have a serious queation i owe students loans and IRS will they take my back pay or in monthly pAyments

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Joyce,

          The IRS can withhold 20% of your past and ongoing benefits for the IRS lien. Student loans in default can also result in garnishment. If these debts are to be collected, you will get a notice first that givea you thirty days to respond.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  16. Duntaveous says:

    Hello Kay!
    I have a question about my disability payment.. Since my ssdi was stopped in February. I requested for expedited payment while they working on my disability case.. And they told me I have filled out all the papers to get payment begined.. I was told I will recieved temporary 6 months payment start in April.. Since I haven’t got my payment for months since February. I was told that at processing payment center taking forever and not even make it faster to release money to me.. How come this happening while it take forever to get the money to paid to me??

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Duntaveous,

      In addition to sorting payment actions by category, they are also handled in the order received; so your payment reinstatement is waiting its turn for processing.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • leola says:

        Hi Kay I get my first ssdi check n august 2016 when will i get my back pay? Was told I became disabled n January 2016

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Leola,

          You are not eligible for back pay because the first five calendar months of disability (February through June) are a benefit waiting period for which no benefits are paid. The benefit you receive in August is for July. Your August benefit will be paid in September and so on.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  17. Cheryl Hollowell says:

    I started receiving my disability in October 2015. At that time I went to the Social Security office and was told that I would get a large amount of back pay. I call once a month, It has been 7 months now and I still have not received it. I keep being told that it is at the payment center and they are working on it. I did not have a lawyer and I did not receive any work comp. What could they be working on so long and why is there no one that can tell me anything?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cheryl,

      I suggest that you contact your congressperson’s office to see whether they will make a follow-up inquiry for you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Anna says:

        Hi Kay, my husband had to stop working in Dec. 2013, applied for SSI/SSDI on 05-30-14. right away denied for SSI. Had hearing in Dec. 2015 with judge who fully approved SSDI and backpay. He received first payment for Jan. 2016 in Feb. 2016. Now 3 monthly payments later still no backpay. Isn’t there ANYONE in the govt. that we may talk to about what the hold up is? No SSI, no work comp., just SSDI, what he paid into working all those years prior.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Anna,

          Have your husband check with the local SSA office to be sure that they have communicated to the SSDI payment center that the SSI claim was denied. If they have already done so, you can ask them to send a request for payment even though it probably won’t speed anything up. If your husband has not received the back pay by the end of June, he can consider contacting his congressperson’s office to see if they will do a follow-up inquiry.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Gernando4 says:

        Dear Kay

        Question Monday is memorial day
        Does that mean we get paid today?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Gernando,

          June 1 are both weekdays and neither is a holiday, so the usual pay dates will apply for SSI and for first-week-of-the-month Social Security payments.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Kassandra says:

      My four year old was approved for Ssi disability on 2/26/16 and we received our first payment on 4/29/16 for May. But we still have not heard anything about her backpay? How long before I hear something?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Kassandra,

        If you have not received the back pay by the end of May, follow up with your local SSA office.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Kassandra says:

          Dear Kay,
          My child was approved for Ssi disability she is a kid. Here is my story I filed in July 2015 and in November they sent her to their own doctors. We wait until February. They send an approval letter ” first try” with the amount she will be getting in backpay. We have already received our first check and she gets one in a few days, but still no word on backpay. So I call her office and no answers and no call back. Call again and she is there and has the rep tell people she is not talking to anyone this week. Which is fine but this every other week thing. It’s been a whole year and no one will tell me anything. I think a year is way to long for a person who was approved the first try. What do I do? Who can I call? please help!

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kassandra,

            Your daughter was approved in February, seven months, which is a long time but not a year. Your daughter’s first installment of back pay should be paid within a month of the first monthly benefit being paid. If she does not receive by about June 10, I suggest that you go to the Social Security office if possible and ask to speak to a supervisor about release of the funds.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Kassandra says:

            Hi Kay just a follow up question and info. Question can I request a different caseworkers?

            Just a little curious what I should do I Finally got to speak to someone who would look into the case and not just transfer me to her answer machine. “She was not in AGAIN”. The worker look into and says she sorry and she doesn’t understand but unfortunately the case worker haven’t done absolutely nothing. So again I get transferred to talk to the answer machine again. We to this day have never seen her.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kassandra,

            You cannot request a different representative, but you can ask to speak to a supervisor and report that you were told the representative has not worked on your case. You can ask the supervisor if he or she can do anything about that. If your claim is waiting its turn, the request will not help; but if it missed its turn, asking could speed things up.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  18. James says:

    I was awarded A large sum after being approved for SSDI back on march 16th when do you think I will receive this award it goes back to 2012 many bills to pay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear James,

      If you received a letter stating the amount and do not have the funds by the end of May, ask your local office to send an inquiry to the payment center to be sure processing is on track. If you only got the medical approval in March, then allow to the end of June before follow up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • James says:

        Went to court January 12th received fully favorable decision from Judge February 16th.then received awards letter from social security March 21st to April and finally received my first monthly payment April 27th

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear James,

          Thanks for the update for letting people know that sometimes payment after approval moves quickly.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Logane Sanders says:

        Hello Kay,
        I was approved for both SSD and SSI on 3-4-16. I received SSi payment for one month and then it was discontinued, reason being I would get too much SSD. I received SSI back pay in full and then received SSD award letter stating my backpay amount with SSD. I received my 1st monthly payment from SSD may 3rd. How long until I receive my back pay from SSD?
        I forgot to mention my attorney fee has been paid by Social Security.
        Thank you for any response.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Logane,

          It can take from one to three months for the back pay to be issues.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  19. Tiana says:

    Hello I was wondering I went into the social security office yesterday to give information because I was approved now I’m getting a back pay of 2,199 now I have direct deposit and my worker said that I should have it in 48 hours. Doesthat sound right or did I not here her right?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tiana,

      If the worker was caught up on work and was going to process your claim the same day you were in the office, you could receive payment that fast.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Steven says:

        Kay, got approved my first time out. Application 01-2016. Approval 05/03/2016.
        Have been out of work for two years two months as of 03/2014. Been disabled a year beforehand. How is back pay determined? Lady at disability determination put a comment in my file that I will be homeless as of 06/15/2016. Should I provide a letter from my apartment manager that I will be evicted on 06/15/2016? Any suggestions?
        Thanks, Steven

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Steven,

          If you were determined to have been disabled since you stopped work, Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits will begin to accrue September 2014. Even with an eviction notice, it could take a couple months to get payments started and longer to get the back pay.

          If you were also approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the SSI payment began to accrue February 2016. There’s the potential of being paid SSI faster, possibly before June 15 because SSI payments are calculated and payment is authorized in the local office. I suggest that you contact your local office to find out if you have an SSI claim and if you do whether anything is needed from you before payment can be authorized.

          A copy of the eviction letter might help speed up the SSI. However, if you have not been given a written eviction notice, depending on the law in your state or county, your landlord may not be able to evict you. I suggest that you find out what your rights are from your state or county agency that governs tenant-landlord relations.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  20. isabella says:

    Hello Kay, I will attempt to narrow my information toward my main question. At this moment all is being processed and up to date with my receiving my first SSDI payment for May 25. I filed for divorce December 2014. Disabled since June 2013. Two minor children living with me. Fully-favorable judgement. Unable to work. Age 48. Back pay quite substantial, but not yet received. My soon to be ex-husband is demanding a portion of back-pay once I receive it. He is working – $100K/yr. While married for 17 years, I worked 10 of those years (if this means anything). Is he in fact ‘entitled’ to any portion of back-pay? He does not want to give me any spousal support, yet wants to take monies I earned vs. acknowledging substantial matters my children and I need to address financially. I have an attorney involved with divorce. Any and all guidance you may provide I would be most grateful of. Kind regards, Isabella

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Isabella,

      Your husband has no statutory right (no right established by Social Security law) to your Social Security back pay. I suggest that you discuss the matter with your divorce attorney how the benefits once received relate to the divorce settlement.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • isabella says:

        I am extremely grateful for your prompt and positive reply (on my behalf). Thank you again.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          You are welcome, Isabella.

          • Jeannie says:

            I found out on April 28th 2016 I got approved for SSDI and that they were finalize everything and I should get a call this week. I had a stroke on Jan 14, 2015. I applied on July 31st 2015 for social security. My question is when will I get my backpay and how much should it be? Also I have 2 children 5 and 10 month old…will I get a benefit for them also??? and would I receive backpay for them too?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Jeannie,

            Your back pay will begin to accrue July 2015. The amount of your benefit is based on your earnings record. If your work history is sufficient, your children will also be eligible for benefits. You can set up a My Social Security account at http://www.ssa.gov and request an earnings statement (not a benefit statement). The earnings statement will give a rough
            estimate for disability benefits and a Family Maximum Benefit (FMB). If the FMB is more than your benefit, your children will receive benefits.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  21. nikki says:

    I just received an fully favorable decision ssi and ssdi my on set date is july 2013 will I get both ssi and SSdi and will my kids also get a check? and how soon can I expect to receive any funds? and what date will by pack pay go back to will i get back pay for both? ssi and ssdi its so confusion to me

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nikki,

      Your approval means that you are eligible for both benefits, either SSI changing to SSDI or for both ongoing if your SSDI is low enough. Your children will receive Social Security dependent benefits if you worked and earned enough for you to be insured for dependent benefits. SSDI Benefits will begin to accrue January 2014 if you filed your claim January 2015 or earlier. SSI benefits will begin to accrue the month after you filed your initial application.

      Your local office will contact you to update your financial information and will then pay your monthly SSI and issue installment payments for your back SSI benefits. After SSI has been paid, your SSDI will be paid. The SSDI back pay will be reduced by SSI benefits already paid for the same months. The children’s benefits, if any, will be processed after your SSDI benefit has been calculated and set up for payment. The entire process through getting your SSDI and children’s back pay is likely to take three or five months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  22. catherine says:

    I have an Offer In Compromise pending with IRS. I am due back pay for SSDI. Will the IRS take all of my back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Catherine,

      Only a portion of Social Security can be garnished for back Federal taxes. I do not know whether the IRS will forgo garnishment because of the compromise settlement that was offered or not. The IRS may be able to tell you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • catherine says:

        Thanks so much for your reply. I am due about a year’s pay in back pay ssdi. Will they take 50% or less? I have called the IRS and have left messages no response.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Catherine,

          Fifteen percent of your benefits (back pay and ongoing) can be withheld for your tax debt.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  23. Merlene Amoss says:

    I get my first SSD payment scheduled for May 25,2016. According to my approval letter the onset date was Aug.25, 2015 which should be back pay. When will I get this backpay? I’m so confused right now. Our bills are so over due right now.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Merlene,

      The first five full calendar months of disability are unpaid; therefore, you are due back pay for February and March. Your May 25 payment is for April. If you have not received the back pay by the end of June, you might try following up but usually follow up doesn’t speed anything up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Brenden says:

        I have a question. I filed for disability on June 10 2014 with onset date of February 1 2013 .I was denied but was fully favorable(for Ssdi and SSI) at the hearing.I was told I was approved back to June 2014 .Am I also due retroactive benifits back till February 2013??Also I checked the SSA website today and it’s saying payment date of June 1 2016 but only 488.67.I thought that your payment would be at least 733?Can you give me some insight on this??

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Brenden,

          From the information you provided, it is not clear to me what your established disability date is as determined by the judge. Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits begin to accrue the later of twelve months before the month of your initial application or the sixth calendar month after your established date of disability. SSI benefits begin to accrue the month after application, so July 2014. SSI is paid first with monthly benefits usually starting before back pay. SSDI is paid after SSI, and SSDI back pay is reduced by the amount SSI already paid for the same months.

          The maximum SSI of $733 is payable to individuals with no income who are not receiving free housing and/or food. $488.67 is the rate for individuals receiving free housing and/or food. When you get your SSI back pay, you will probably be able to pay for your own housing and food costs even if you cannot with $488 a month income. When you start to pay either fair market value (FMV) or your share of shelter and shared food, you can report it and your benefit will be increased.

          Your share when you live with others is the total shelter expenses (and food expenses if food is shared) for the whole household divided by the number of people in the household. Shelter expenses are rent or mortgage, property tax, and if required by the lender property insurance, power, heat, water/sewer, and garbage. Alternatively you can be a renter renting a room and paying fair market value and buying your own food (with or without food stamps) or be a boarder paying fair market value for room and board. The last choice, room and board, is harder to prove when living with a family member.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  24. IB says:

    Hi Kay,

    I was approved for SSDI April 25, 2016. I was told my file is at the processing center. I have not received a letter yet but I’m curious about something. I applied for disability July 2014. When they denied me because of lack of medical evidence I never appealed. I wasn’t seeing a doctor because I didn’t have insurance so I said what’s the point. When I received healthcare in August of 2014. August 2015 I applied for disability and was approved as stated above on the initial application. The local office said they would not use my 2013 date because I did not go through the appeal process. But I read somewhere that an application can be reopened within 2-4 years. Which is correct? I am asking what my onset date will be.

    • IB says:

      Sorry i meant i applied july 2013

      • Chris says:

        I received a letter dated Feb 05 2016 with the back payment amount. It is now May 4 and I still have not received it, how long will I have to wait? Thank you.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Chris,

          You should have received payment by now. I suggest that you ask your local office to send an inquiry to the payment center for a status report.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear IB,

      It is very rare that an un-appealed prior denial is reopened and when it happens it is almost always at the hearing level of appeal on the later claim. Your SSDI benefits will begin the later of August 2014 (twelve months before the date of your more recent application) or the sixth calendar month following your date of disability as established by SSA.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  25. Standard Name says:

    I had my hearing on October 16, went there, it was cancelled, had the new hearing October 28, 2015. I received a partially favorable decision mid February 2016, onset date of August 30, 2013.

    I received approval for SSI and SSDI, SSDI is 538/mth, SSI at 214/mth.

    I got my first monthly checks in March 2015, and a partial backpay of 2199 in February.

    I have not received backpay for the SSDI yet. The 2199 barely helped because of the amount of debt I was in due to having no income for years.

    I am being threatened to have my Social Security garnished for student loans I am contesting (fraud and disability discharge).

    The Office stated they cannot relinquish my SSI backpay under dire needs until the SSDI backpay is calculated.

    I was told originally that my SSDI would start March 3rd, and I’d have the SSDI backpay within 4-6 weeks. Now I am being told my attorney was paid out of my SSI and SSDI backpay already, and that I may have my SSDI backpay 4-6 weeks from April 8th.

    My local office can not give me my SSI in a lump sum out for dire needs until Baltimore finishes processing my SSDI.

    I have about 10 letters “missing” from Baltimore, and the last letter I received from Baltimore was received a month after the letter was dated. The local office won’t print out the letters I haven’t received because it’s too much paper, and I keep being told my SSDI backpay is coming later and later, and I can’t get my SSI backpay in a lump sum until the SSDI backpay is processed.

    Also, I have told SSA multiple times I need to be told AHEAD of time when the backpay is issued because of the daily deposit limit I have on my bank account. The amount of SSDI backpay I am owed exceeds my daily deposit limit, so if the deposit is issued without my knowledge, it will be rejected and I’ll have to wait 7-10 days longer.

    I was told my SSDI backpay would be in by now several times, and I keep being told it’ll be a few more weeks. I am facing shut off notices, threats of garnishments, repossession notices, and I keep being told there’s nothing SSA can do about ANYTHING until the SSDI backpay is relinquished to me. If I do not get 24 hour notification of the deposit, my bank will reject it and I’ll have to wait for them to issue a paper check in 7-10 days.

    I have a bunch of missing letters, I’m receiving letters 3-4 weeks after they’re dated, and nobody will tell me anything other than my attorney has been paid.

    What can I do to get my backpay issued? I budgeted everything in accordance to when I was told I’d receive the money, and I may end up living in a weekly motel with nothing.

    Any advice?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Standard Name,

      It is unlikely that you are going to get a notification twenty-four hours in advance of payment. Usually the letters come after payment. I suggest that you talk with your bank and explain that you have a large direct deposit coming in from Social Security and request that they change or remove the deposit limit.

      It is not unusual for a couple of months to pass after SSI is paid before Social Security starts, so there may be nothing you can do to get the SSDI speeded up. I suggest that you talk to your creditors. Tell them you have been approved and provide copies of the approval letters you do have and that you waiting for the payment. Pledge to call them weekly till you receive the money and can pay on bill.

      If you are no longer eligible for SSI because the partially favorable decision said you are no longer disabled, the full lump sum SSI should be payable now.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  26. Robby says:

    Hi Kay, I received a partially favorable decision at the hearing (March 3, 2016) for SSDI and SSI for a closed-period of disability totaling just over a year. I received the notice of award for SSDI on April 12, 2016 for a monthly benefit of about $900 a month for 10 months. I also received my award letter from SSI on April 13, 2016 for amounts totaling about $640 per month for 8 months. In the SSDI letter, it states that they are withholding social security benefits because they may have to reduce it depending on SSI. In the SSI letter it says the ever popular, “we will be in touch with you about your back payments.” I hope this is all clear. My question is this. Since my case is a closed period case from three years ago, will I be getting lump sums for everything after offsets are figured out? I simply have no idea when to expect anything at all. Thanks for any insight!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robby,

      The SSI claim will be paid first and should be paid in a single lump sum payment because you do not have ongoing eligibility. Your SSDI claim will also be paid in one lump sum and will be reduced by SSI already paid for any months you are eligible for both benefits.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  27. John says:

    I am a combat vet. I applied for SSDI in April of 2015 after I received 100% P&T from the VA. My claim should have been fast tracked but it wasn’t. I wasn’t approved til MARCH 2016 with an onset date for OCT 2014. That was the date the VA found me disable. I’m due my first monthly payment next month. There is a mention that my back pay was being withheld due to SSI offset. I was denied SSI back in OCT 15. I called the main SSA office and was told my back pay is at the payment center in Baltimore. My question is like everyone else question when can I expect to receive my back pay? What is the hold up since my SSI was already denied? Should I have not received an expedited process including payment since I should have fall under the critical condition process similar to dire need? Thank you in advance!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      Although it was proposed, the regulation was never passed to fast-track Social Security claims for people with 100% VA ratings. If you have checked with the local office to be sure that the payment center knows the SSI was denied, you can expect monthly payments to begin in about a month. Back pay can take a couple months longer. If you are in dire need, which would be in danger of becoming homeless or being unable to get life-saving medical care, you can submit a statement of dire need and it might speed up payment of your benefits a little.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • John says:

        Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. So the Wounded Warrior or the 100% P&T for Veterans was never passed? It doesn’t fall under the critical case? I’m confused now. Well I received a letter from the payment center but it wasn’t what I was expecting. It was a ticket to work letter. What is that all about? Is this letter automatically sent out to everyone? Thank god for the VA i’m have been getting help there. But the bills that have piled up are not going away and it takes all of my VA benefit to pay. So the back pay will be most helpful to pay off my debt. Well I’ll wait another two weeks. If I don’t receive my back pay by then, do you think I should contact my senator? Will they be able to speed up my back pay? TIA

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear John,

          The Ticket to Work is a sign that they are getting close to completing work on calculating benefits and getting payment out. It is not atypical for it to take two months or more to get payment started after a medical approval. Because you currently have income, you are probably not in the dire-need category, so I’d wait till mid-June before following up.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  28. R says:

    Hi,

    I was approved for SSDI in November 2013 (disability date April 2013), and given SSI backpay for July through September, after which SS Disability kicked in.

    My question is how can I get retroactive and “prior months” Medicaid to cover my hospital bills and therapy from April to September? By the time I got my disability decision, I was no longer eligible for SSI payments or Medicaid. But it’s my understanding that in Georgia, Medicaid is approved automatically for SSI recipients.

    The Medicaid process in Georgia is frustrating. I called Dept of Human Services and they told me to call DFACS. The DFACS number only has an outgoing message with no option to leave one, let alone speak to a human. The actual DFACS office is some computers, copiers, and a receptionist. You can’t speak to a caseworker.

    Here’s the long story:
    I was first denied Medicaid in May 2013 while I was still in the hospital. The workers there handled the application and filing for me. I appealed and got a hearing only 8 months later for Medicaid in Feb 2014. The person at the hearing (from Henry County DFACS) said I was eligible for retroactive Medicaid, but the case was closed so I had to start a new application, instructing me to specify “prior months Medicaid” on the application.

    I applied for Medicaid again but there was no option for “prior months” on the application.

    After applying, I received a letter requesting supporting documents from Clayton County DFACS, after which I apoeared in person to deliver all the docs at DFACS in Henry County (I live in Clayton County but adult medicaid is processed by Henry co.).

    I then had a phone interview with a man from Dept of Human Services and mentioned retroactive Medicaid specifically. He looked at my application and supporting documents and said everything looked good except I needed to fax my pay stub info for the months leading up to my disability. He sent me a letter (from Walker County DFACS) requesting the documents. I faxed them immediately. A couple weeks later, I received a denial letter from Clayton County DFACS, saying I didn’t give them the docs they requested.

    I gave up trying after that.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear R.,

      In some circumstances SSI eligibility will give you Medicaid coverage retroactively. I don’t know whether it would go back only to July the first month of SSI eligibility. Given the background you laid out, you might try to get help from the Georgia Insurance Commissioner’s office or try to locate some time of omnibudsman or local public benefits advocate to help you. If all that fails and some of the bills are with hospitals, talk to the billing department to find out whether you can apply to have some or part of the bills waived. Most hospitals receive federal funds and if they do they have to provide some pro bono care.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • ty says:

        Kay, my son who is 4 was approved for SSI for disabled children. His monthly payments began April 1 2016 and he was also rewarded backpay for which I had to open a dedicated account for. Do you have any idea how long after receiving monthly payments will he get his backpay? Everything was approved including the account which I opened in his ssn and name.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Ty,

          Your son’s back pay went into the restricted-use retirement account. No other back pay is payable.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • ty says:

            Kay,
            Thanks for getting back with me but I was told his back pay was going into an account that I opened in his and I name with his ssn.., the case worker informed me on the amount and I was told that no other income would go into this account only come out when necessary but keep all receipts when in use. I have been checking on the account and nothing has post yet? Im not sure if you understood my question but im not understanding your answer

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Ty,

            I was unable to find my response. I did find your first post in which you asked how long it would take to get the back benefits. You should receive them within a month of getting the first monthly SSI payment. You can read about allowed use of Dedicated Accounts at https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0200602140.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

        • Tracey says:

          I have a daughter that also started getting a check April 1. Opened dedicated account for back pay as instructed. I have not gotten back pay yet. Have you received yours yet? I have called ss office 4 times and left messages. No return call. I sent dedicated acct info in when they originally requested. 2 weeks after I got a letter requesting the info as if I had never sent in. I sent again. I can not get anyone to call me or tell me what is going on.

      • Kentucky wildcats says:

        Kay, I have a question. I was approved for my ssdi starts May 3rd 2016. I was wondering why I get my check on 3rd not complain but it ssdi for my work history no one else. Mine should have been 2nd Wednesday of the month. I do get medical from state right now is that why? My on set date was march 14 2014 the day I filed.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Kentucky Wildcats,

          Usually people paid SSDI on the third of the month are also eligible for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) on the first of the month so that all the income arrives at about the same time.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Kentucky wildcats says:

            No, I receive 1022 a month from ssdi so I know I won’t get ssi. Someone said it might be because I get such a small amount that I still qualify for my state medical.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kentucky Wildcats,

            I don’t think medical insurance entitlement would affect your payment date. I don’t know why the payment date is different from what it would normally be.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Letitia Similton says:

        Sorry to ask questions on someone else’s post but I didn’t see where to start a new thread. I asked for a redetermination of my disability in March, I was told that my case was sent to the payment center on April 6th. My question now is how long before my benefits are reinstated?

      • Shay says:

        Hi Kay, ok so I received my ssdi back pay statement all calculated but then they said there’s a offset because I was approved for ssi too. So I went to my local SSA office and answered all kinds of questions and they said now I’m going to be getting the ssi back pay for the 5 months. Did I just set my ssdi back pay back longer? Did I do the right thing because now I’m hearing which they didn’t tell me it gets deducted from my ssdi back pay. I receive my 1st ssdi monthly this Wensday. Do you know how long after I will get the ssdi back pay and ssi back pay.?? I feel like I should have just waived the ssi back pay :(

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Shay,

          Your SSDI back pay will be reduced for SSI back pay only for the months in which the two overlap. You do not provide any dates and you say the SSI back pay is for only five months, which causes me to wonder whether it is being paid for your first five months of disability, which is not covered by Social Security.

          Although being eligible for SSI can cause somewhat slower payment of your Social Security back pay, receiving part of the back pay as SSI can be beneficial because SSI is not taxable and if your Social Security and other non-SSI income in a year is high enough, part of the Social Security is taxable.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Shay says:

            Thank you so much you’ve explained just what I needed. And the ssi date is the 5 months missing from ssdi that is not paid for that’s it. Wensday April 20, 2016 I get my 1st ssdi monthly. And Friday April 15, 2016 is when I went to sign off on the offset at SSA for the ssi 5 month eligibility. But in all I got my fully favorable statement February 6, 2016 so I’ve been waiting along time. 1 more thing do you think n e of my back pays from ssi or ssdi should be soon? Because the lady at the SSA said it would of been deposited that day April 16, 2016 but I had no bank account so she said the check will be sent. So maybe this week ya think?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Shay,

            Based on what you were told, I would say that the SSI will come within a week. The Social Security back pay can take a month or longer after you get your first monthly back pay.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Sue B says:

        I received a fully favorable decision with onset date on Jan.2010.. My question is I got ssi and SSdi, just received my first 2199 back pay installment..Months are Jan 14- Dec 15, Jan-16 – April 16.will ssdi have to pay 21000 back to ssi

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sue,

          Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay will be reduced by the amount of SSI back pay that you are due, whether already paid or not, for any past months in which SSI and SSDI ovelap.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Sue B says:

            I’m sorry to come off slow, but I don’t understand when you say months they overlap..if my ssi backpay is 21000, ssdi will have to pay that amount back? When should I start ssdi monthly and get my backpay?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Sue,

            Each of the benefits (SSDI and SSI) will be paid for specific months. If any of those months are the same (i.e., the benefits overlap), your SSDI for that month will be reduced by the SSI paid for that month.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Jay says:

      Hi Kay,

      I have a few questions for you. Sorry for the simplicity of them and thank you in advance for your assistance.

      1. I immediately enlisted the help of a lawyer from the get go and she applied for me back in August of 2014, with my onset of disability beginning in September of 2013. Does this mean when approved, I’d get back pay minus the five months they withhold and the lawyer fees?

      2. I am eligible for $598 a month. My lawyer also put my dependents down I think that applies me for dependent benefits if I’m not wrong.. If this is correct, will I get back pay for my SSDI plus the dependent benefits or do I have to go through another process to get the dependent pay as well? I have a 14 year old and four year old would they be eligible for that dependent pay and do I get so much for both or just one?

      Thank you!

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jay,

        Your benefits will begin to accrue March 2014 if September 2013 is the established date of disability. Your attorney’s fees will be withheld from the back pay. With a fairly low primary insurance amount (PIA) of $598, your Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) may be the same $598. If that is the case, no dependent benefits will be payable. If the children are eligible, you need to apply to be payee for your children if they live with you. If not, the adult with whom they live should file a payee application. Also, you may be asked to provide their birth certificates.

  29. E says:

    Hi I was approved my ssd starting march 1 2016 . I was also to receive ssi until they started my ssd in march…well march came and went , I still haven’t received my ssd .. I am still getting the ssi . which ive told them to stop, but they haven’t and wont. ive called them and now I don’t know what to do.. how do I get them to stop the ssi and give me my ssd which now they owe me a little bit since they didn’t start it as they stated. ive called all kinds of attorneys but no one can help

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear E.,

      If you stop your SSI before the SSDI is processed and started, you will be left without income and it will not speed up the receipt of the SSDI. The SSI will automatically be stopped when the SSDI starts (or reduced depending on the amount of SSDI you are eligible for.

      If your first month of SSDI entitlement is March and it is paid on time, the benefit will be paid in April. The exact date in April depends on the day of your birth. See the chart below.

      Born on the 1st to 10th = second Wednesday of the month
      Born on the 11th to 20th = third Wednesday of the month
      Born on the 21st to 31st = fourth Wednesday of the month
      Both SS and SSI = SS is paid on the 3rd of the month

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Sandy says:

        Hi Kay. Sorry to reply to another post but didn’t see where to start new question thread. My question is: are ssdi payment made a month behind? I’ve been on disability for 16 years. My youngest daughter is 18 this month on 24th. She graduates 5/24/16. I filled out the forms so she would receive child benefits until she graduates. Every thing I read says payment received this month-April 2016 are for March 2016. But they mailed her dependent check and I will get mine deposited tomorrow. But if payments are a month behind and April pmt is for March then why would they send her a check when she was still 17 in March? I read the letter and it said ” your benefits will end with the payment for the month before the month in which you attain age 18. You attain age 18 the day before your 18th birthday (hers is April 24th) this is important if your birthday is on 1st day of month. Example: if 18th birthday is June 1st then you attain that age on May 31st. If u are neither a full time student nor disabled in May benefits would not be payable for May. The last benefit check to which you would be entitled would be the one received in May, which represents your payment for April ” SO Thos leads me to believe that payments received in April are for March and she was 17 in March. She graduates May 24 2016. So I would think she would receive payment in May for April and another in June for May since she was full time student. But like I said they mailed a check received today (even tho I gave them copies of her checking acct with her name for direct deposit) and my payment should be in my acct tomorrow. So is April’s payment for April or March? And if it’s March then why would she receive check since her birthday is April 24th so they consider her 18 as of April 23rd? Thank you

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sandy,

          Social Security benefits are paid the month after the month for which they are due. They probably sent her her payment directly in April because she was going to be eighteen by the time it was paid and they have her set up to get paid for April because she is still in school. Note that benefits terminate the last day of the month before a termination event occurs. Your daughter’s last payment will be for April, paid in May. No benefits are payable for May because she will not not eligible the entire month.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • nancy willie says:

        A backpay amount was released on Wednesday to my bank account and here it is Saturday and no money yet? How long does it take for a direct deposit to go through and hit my account. I also have my large ssdi back pay scheduled for direct deposit Monday. I am very aggravated

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nancy,

          Electronic payments take a few overnight bank runs to reach your account so the timing you describe is normal operating times.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  30. Don says:

    Dear Kay,

    I received my ( Notice of Reward) From the SSA.
    In the letter it lists my back pay, the amount and that the fee will be removed to pay my attorney.

    In the payment summary it lists the back pay as 0.00.

    Does this mean it’s coming separately?

    I have not received any information on
    wether I will receive the SSI or any letter about SSI. I did call the local SS office about a month ago they said a letter about a phone interview pertaining to SSI would arrive.

    My main question is in regard to my SSDI back pay.

    Does that notice usually arrive separately?

    Thank you,
    Don

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Don,

      The attorney is usually paid first before you, but usually the letter will say how much the total back pay is. Your letter may not because SSI is paid first and Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay is paid second. The SSDI back pay will be reduced by SSI back pay for the same period. You should have been contacted for the financial update interview by now. I suggest that you go to your local Social Security office if it is not too far away and request an interview or at least an interview date. (If you get to the office a few minutes before opening, you will not have to wait as long to be seen.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Eva says:

        Dear Kay,

        Sorry to go through someone else reply to ask my question. I also like Don received my letter of award. On April 10th I was told from ssa that my back pay is with the processing center. Need my back pay over do all bills past due balances, was wondering in my first ssdi payment is second wed of month of April. How long on my back pay? Friend told me take my bills to local Ss office for faster payment. Please help. Thank you very much.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Eva,

          Usually Social Security Disability back pay takes one to three months after the monthly benefits start. If you are in danger of being homeless or in urgent need of medical care, you can submit a dire need statement that the local office will submit to the payment center, but it may not speed things up much.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Eva says:

            Hi Kay,

            Thank you so much for replying to my question about back pay. Maybe in future to help others, I did go to my local Ss office with my behind bills and now they have me done with payment center for dyer need of back pay for over do bills an will receive back pay in my account 3-5 days. So ty for help. Hope my situation and how I handle it helps others. Though its been 4 days an no back pay yet I’m hopeful that it will be to me asap.

            Tyvm
            Eva

          • Patty says:

            Y’all I got a check in the mail Monday. A nice one.
            Had no idea that I had even been approved. Have not recieved a letter or anything.
            Contacted my lawyer today. She got her fees from my case today.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Patty,

            You should receive a letter within a week or ten days. If you do not, contact your local office because the award letter is an important document.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Robin Lawrence says:

      I am sorry to post this on someone else question but I didn’t see where to ask the question. I became disabled on 7/3/2013 My attorney filed for SSDI for me 8/2013 after being denied I went to court and was awarded SSDI on 11/2015 I recieved my first monthly payment on 1/10/2016 and have recieved them on that day each month since direct deposit. I was told in a letter I would recieve 24,500 in back pay. It is now 4/8/2016 and I have not recieved that yet. After several phone calls to my local SS office as well as the main SS office. I am told there is nothing holding up my payment it just takes awhile. Shouldn’t I recieved this payment by now ???

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Robin,

        Release of back pay usually take a long time–the higher the amount, often the longer. If you do not have payment by the end of the middle of May, you might contact your congressperson’s office to ask them to make an inquiry.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  31. Merlene Amoss says:

    I just received my approval letter today for disability, They state they ruled I became disabled Aug. 20, 2015, but I didn’t file until Dec 14, 2015, now will this be considered back pay, so confused right now. My first check is to be paid May 25,2016.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Merlene,

      Social Security Disability benefits begin the later of twelve months before the month of application or the sixth full calendar month after disability began. This means your entitlement begins February 2016. The monthly benefit to be paid on May 25 is for the month of April. That means that you will receive back pay for February and March.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  32. Trey W. says:

    My wife became disabled June of 2011 but we didn’t file for SSDI until Aug 2014. We did put on her application the June 2011 on set. I was wondering if the back pay would be calculated from June 2011 or from Aug 2014? Thank you for your time. We had our hearing last week so now waiting on the judge’s ruling.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Trey,

      If your wife is approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI) with a 2011 disability onset date, her benefits will begin to accrue August 2013, twelve months before her application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Alex says:

        Hello Kay, I can’t seem to figure out how to leave you message so I am replying to you on someone else’s question. Hope that is okay. I have been approved for SSI and have been receiving monthly payments for 3 months now. I have heard nothing about my back pay and wonder if you know how long it takes to get my first installment on my back pay?
        Thanks

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Alex,

          You should have received your first installment by now. I suggest that you follow up your local office letting them know it has been three months since you got your first check.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

        • Angela says:

          My son got his first benefit today. But the letter I have say he is do a back pay of 1500 in addition to a back pay of 5000 so which one will he get on the dirwect express card.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Angela,

            I can’t say for sure, but I expect he would receive both on the card, but not at the same time.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Lauren says:

      Sorry to start a post on someones theard. But I need help. If I was denied SSI because I have too many resources how long before my ssdi starts ? My EOD is Oct 2013. My approval date was March 4, 2016. Im broke why does this take so long. Do i need to look for work so i dont lose anything ? Because this process is stressful on a person with a heart condition.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Lauren,

        You need to use your excess resources to support yourself until your countable resources are down below $2,000 ($3,000 if you are married and living with your spouse.) If you are below the resource limit before twelve months have elapsed after your SSI application, you will not have to file a new application. If you were also approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI), it will be paid because your assets do not affect SSDI benefits.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Dawud says:

      Sorry I pushed reply to ask a question. I first applied for ssdi in 2007 and was denied 3 times then around 2013 I hired a lawyer and got denied again. I went before the judge may of 2015 and was awarded a fully favorable decision with an onset date of 01-01-2008. All claims where for the same disability but my lawyer presented a new disability with the ones that I already applied for. Now SSA tells me that I applied in 2013 but I never gave up the fight on the first denied application. So do I receive backpay from my onset date, my 1st applied date, or 2013 when I hired a lawyer? Please help.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Dawud,

        It sounds as if you exhausted all your appeal on the 2007 claim and started over with a new claim in 2013. If that is the case, your Social Security benefits are limited to twelve months before the 2013 application and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments, if any, begin the month after the 2013 application.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  33. Jimi says:

    High Kay; On March 15,2016 I went in front of an administrative judge and he approved my SS and SSDI. I got my letter stating I would start receiving my monthly payments the 3rd week of April. They went back to September 2014. How long will I have to wait for my back pay. Thank You

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jimi,

      From what you wrote, I can’t tell for sure all the kinds of benefits you were approved for. If you were approved only for Social Security Disability (SSDI), you can expect it to take one to two months for your back pay to arrive.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Debra Smallridge says:

        Kay, sorry bad no clue how to put up my own question.
        They put me in for SSDI,SSI and Widow and recieved a call I was eleigable. My lump some of the SSDI came in Feb. Did receive my SSDI check and SSI check in March. But was told the SSI would drop off to widows only, which it has.I opted out on past medicare payment.
        The my ssi screen shows my first checks and ssdi lump sum. When i call them tell me it is at a payment center still being worked on. This last monday, I called in and the guy said was I told it was on hold or did anyone advise them to release it? No, then told me a request was made to release and if he called to get a time frame on the back pay..I would go to the bottom.
        No mater whom you talk to there is a different answer to your question. 6 weeks from the last letter…on and on. How can we get a round about time frame when I will see my backpay

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Debra,

          What you are describing is different from what usually happens. Usually SSI back pay is paid before SSDI monthly benefits and before SSDI back pay. The local office authorizes SSI and the payment center authorizes Social Security disability and widow’s benefits including back pay. Frequently, it takes a couple months for SSDI back pay to be released after the monthly benefits start. The fact that you have both SSDI and widow’s will probably make the processing take a bit longer. The local office calling has little effect on how fast you will get the money because your claim has to wait its turn.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • TWill says:

      Hello Kay
      My husband’s SSDI benefits were reinstated after losing benefits after he started working. He stopped working in Nov 2014. Benefits were reinstated in Jan 2015. He received provisional benefits for 6 months from Jan 2015 to June 2015. He started receiving regular benefits in September 2015. Our 3 daughters benefits were stopped in 2014. We reapplied for benefits for them since October 2015 plus and extra child a son we had in January 2014. So we have 4 children total. As of this month March 2016 we have not recieved benefits for the 4 children. The 3 daughters had an over payment we filled out forms to have the repayment agreement with SSDI. When we call we are told our case is in the payment center. I called a week ago and was told our file was flagged priority handling what does that mean? How much longer will we have to wait for them to process the benefits for the 4 children under their fathers SSDI case? I was told someone would call me to update me and we have not heard from anyone. Thank you.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear TWill,

        I would say that the children’s benefit reinstatement has been flagged because of how long you have been waiting for the benefits. That should help in getting the benefits started, but I can’t give you a time estimate. I would expect that the remaining overpayment balance will be withheld from the back pay due the three daughters.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  34. Jodie says:

    I received a call from my worker today telling me my SSDI had been approved. I have been on SSI since 2014. I had to go through a Redetermination which I believe started in March 2015. Will I receive any back pay for the difference of SSI and SSDI and for how many months?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jodie,

      If your Social Security is more than your SSI, you will be paid the difference between the two benefits for months that your entitlement to the two benefits overlaps. If the Social Security is less than the SSI, there will be no back pay and your ongoing SSI benefits will be reduced by an amount equal to $20 less than your Social Security, assuming you have no other income. If you have other income, the full Social Security will count to reduce your SSI.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Catherine says:

        Husband was approved in december 2015. March 24th his information updated on the ss website (says when he will get his payments every month) also says something about a one time payment (I’m assuming that is backpay) has March 24th date next to it. When should we expect to receive money(backpay or monthly payments) we have direct deposit set up already (so will any money automatically go to the bank or would we receive a paper check for the backpay) thanks for any help you can give!!!

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Catherine,

          All payments should go to the bank account. The back pay should be in the account by the end of March. The point in the month that monthly benefits are paid depends on the recipients day of birth. Please see the chart below.

          Born on the 1st to 10th = second Wednesday of the month
          Born on the 11th to 20th = third Wednesday of the month
          Born on the 21st to 31st = fourth Wednesday of the month

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Jamie says:

      I just got approved for ssdi Feb.22, 2016..I currently have a Treasury offset due to student loans that went into default as I was unable to work..how much can they take out of my back pay at one time?.. I have been unable to work the last 3 yrs and a single mom of 3 kids…I owe my parents so much money for taking care of us all and I’m just trying to get a roundabout figure in how much my back pay will actually be

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jamie,

        If you are permanently disabled, you may be able to get your student loans forgiven. If you have a severe condition that is expected to be life long, contact your student loan lender to find out how to apply for forgiveness of the loans. In the meantime, the general rule is that no more than 15% of your income can be garnished for student loan collection; however, the formula to determine the amount is not that simple. You will receive a notice that tells you how much will be withheld.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  35. Mr. S says:

    I’ve paid my disabled brothers bills on a loan for the past 3 years totaling over $35,000.00 while he waited for his SSI and SSDI claim. He was recently approved with a combined total of $41,000.00. I understand there will be deductions but now the brother is being elusive not to pay me back anything or communicate to honor his promissory note. I provided a notarized letter as the judge requested for his case to be submitted to these entities. Do I have any recourse with SSI or SSDI to recover any money as his attorney and the county in which he lives will. I’m trying to move quickly as I now have found out through his phone records, in which I pay, multiple calls to car dealerships, text telling friends he’s going to treat them and his interest through realtors to buy a house.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mr. S.,

      As far as I know you have no recourse to get the monies directly from Social Security. However, if you submitted documentation of a bonafide loan to your brother and that helped him get the highest SSI benefit amount, his not paying you back might impact how much he is actually eligible for in SSI. If you were directly paying your brother’s rent and shelter utilities (not phone or cable) and/or food or lending him cash and he doesn’t repay you, he will be eligible for less SSI back pay, which will mean that he will be eligible for more Social Security back pay. Social Security above $24,000 is partially taxable so he iy could result in some of its being taxable so he would get less than he thinks free and clear to use. Bottom line is that you probably need legal advice.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  36. Jason says:

    This might be a new thread question but I can not find the answer anywhere. I have been on SSI for 34 months. I recently had an appointment at SS and was told they missed a year in my earnings and I am approved for SSDI. Because of the amount I no longer will receive SSI just SSDI. Because I am switching from SSI to SSDI will I receive back pay from SSDI?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jason,

      You should receive up to twelve months of back pay from the date the SSDI claim is filed. The back pay will be the difference between the SSDI rate and the SSI rate paid for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  37. JMark says:

    Kay,

    I have never experienced a process that has taken over six years, and the ordeal isn’t over. First, I want to thank you for all of your comments over the past year. They have been really helpful.

    I do not have SSI. I received a portion of my backpay at the end of January 2016. The payment center “conveniently forgot” to pay one entire year of backpay. This is based on the proposal SSA mailed me a few months earlier. Called the local office four weeks ago. The supervisor saw this, and he has requested that the funds be released. Still waiting and getting tired. Contacted my Congressman about the issue on Monday. I understand that his office is capable of getting the payout done very quickly–I hope.

    Now, a word about SS attorneys. I had a very bad experience with mine. I actually had to file a Bar complaint against him, for he failed in his duties to properly represent me (His biggest failing was that I had to write my own appeal to the Appeals Council. He bungled the ALJ hearing by not providing the one piece of evidence I needed to get a favorable ruling). The Bar investigated and is filing charges against him. I sent an appeal to the Appeals Council requesting that the statutory payment of $6,000.00 not be paid to the attorney. The Appeals Council was made aware of the charges. SSA paid him anyway. They never ruled on my appeal–TWICE. The supervisor is looking into that. I was advised to hire a legal malpractice attorney to try to recover the $6,000.00. Isn’t this unreal? If I can get the rest of my backpay (about $18K), I will be thrilled. The $6K? Uncertain. Anyway, folks, don’t give up! That is my point! Thanks, Kay

    PS–I have my Part A Medicare and Part B starts this July (Lord knows why since Part A is retroactive to July 2011)

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J Mark,

      Your Part B and Part A Medicare should start at the same time. The only reason I can think of that the Part B is starting later is that you may have declined to have retroactive Part B premiums withheld from your back pay. (Potentially it could have started with your twenty-fifth month of eligibility.) When that is the case, Part B does not start until the July following the date that your said you wanted ongoing Medicare. You do not mention Part D for prescription medication. If you have not reviewed that coverage and made a decision regarding it, I suggest that you do.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • J Mark says:

        Hi Kay,
        I did pick up Part D at the beginning of the year. Part D was actually more critical that Part B, for I have a very expensive medication that I take.

  38. rosco kidd says:

    I do not have any income. As I have been evicted I need My money now.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rosco,

      You can contact your local Social Security office and file a statement of dire need, which may somewhat decrease processing time. If you have an application for SSI as well as Social Security and you have been medically approved, you might be able to get an emergency advance payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Imperfect says:

        Dear Kay,
        My apologies for posting on someone else’s thread.
        I was approved for SSI (488.00)on 039\2016 on 03/10/2016 I received lump sum payment (2199.00). They say I will receive my 1st SSI payment on April 1, 2016. I got sick 10/06/2016 and applied on 11/06/2015 I was also approved for SSD for 806.00 which will start on May 18, 2016 will I be getting back pay for SSDI as well or is the lump sum payment I already received for my SSDI?

        Thank-you

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Imperfect,

          You are not eligible for Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay because SSDI is not paid for the first five full-calendar months of disability, which for you is November 2015 through March 2016. Your first SSDI benefit will be paid for April in the month of May. SSI should be paid for April and then end unless you are in a state that has an SSI state supplement high enough to allow SSI to be paid with SSDI above $753.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Imperfect says:

            Thank-You so much for your timely response this was very helpful for me. God Bless You!

          • Kay Derochie says:

            You are welcome.

          • Keshia says:

            Hey Kay…I’m confused with this back pay part. I started get SSSI in august of last yr. OK Ssi said I was owed back pay from them too. But I don’t get Ssi… Long story short… Ssi took my back from my ssdi saying that they over paid me by 11,000 dollars….I’m not understanding this because they haven’t paid me 11,ooo dollar’s. Can they do that? I really needed that money. Any help or advice will be great fully appreciated. Thanks

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Keshia,

            What you are describing to me doesn’t sound like an overpayment, but rather an offset. Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay is offset (reduced) by Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay including SSI back pay that is scheduled to be paid out in three installments six months apart. (It may also be reduced by the amount of the award that is used to pay an attorney; I’m not sure.) If you have dire need for funds and you have additional SSI back-pay installments due, you can request early release based on dire need. Be prepared to state the specific needs and an estimate of how much they come to.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  39. Ashes says:

    What all do I need to ask for more backpay? I don’t really understand that part at all.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ashes,

      Please see my previous response. As I understand your previous posts, right now you need to wait for the back pay to be processed. It is not a matter of asking for more at the present time. Once the SSI stops you can ask for release of the portion of your SSI back pay that was not paid in the first installment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  40. Joshua K says:

    Hi kay
    …i was approved on January 29th 2016 at my hearing I’m just wondering if I will have my benefits on March 1st 2016 and how long after that will I get my back pay I applied on September 1st 2014

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Joshua,

      You might have received a written decision by March 1, but it is extremely unlikely you have received payment. That typically takes one to two months for SSI and two months or more for Social Security after getting a written decision

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  41. Ala M says:

    I am disabled and collecting disability benefits from California state since April 2015 under STD program. I applied for LTD disability benefit from SSDI program in Oct. 2015.

    In the application, I have indicated that I have stopped working in April 2015 due to my medical condition, and that my work activities were made changes in Feb. 2015.

    In a contact with Social Security Administration office, I have been told that I would have an answer in March 2016, and that my application may be approved.

    So how they determine what month my benefit will start after 5 months of waiting period?

    What month (Mach or Feb) is considered as the first effective month?

    After receive Social Security Pay Back Check, Do I have to reimburse CA state for STD benefits that I have got for the same months where the LTD benefits paid?

    Thanks,
    Al

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ala,

      If you were still earning $1,090 in February and March 2015, your disability onset will be April and benefits will begin to accrue October 2015. Check with California’s department that administers the State Disability Insurance (SDI) program to find out whether reimbursement is required for months in which SDI overlaps with Social Security Disability (SSDI).

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Danielle says:

        Dear Kay,
        My husband received an approval letter for SSDI and SSI 3 weeks ago. He will be eligible for Medicaid for the time that Disability waits to give you a payment for the first five months. After that, his Disability payment will make him ineligible for SSI. He owes a hospital a large payment for an accident that caused his Disability. The Hospital had actually placed a lean on him because they knew that he might get a settlement from his accident. He did receive the settlement and most of the settlement went to the hospital and then they told us that they would write off the rest of it, but that if he ever became eligible for SSI that they would go back and seek payment from Medicaid to take care of the rest of it. I was wondering if you knew if they could still go back and take money from his backpack. They did tell us that if Medicaid paid the hospital bill and we received a large settlement, that we would have to pay them back. That was before we got the settlement from the accident though. I’m concerned that we might have to pay Medicaid back or they might try and seek payment from his backpay. I did speak with our local Social Security office representative and she said that they won’t take it out of his backpay but she’s not certain if they could later on though. Also, my husband received a letter from the ALJ stating that he was disabled 3 weeks ago, so when should we receive an award letter?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Danielle,

          Your husband’s Social Security Disability (SSDI) and SSI cannot be garnished for hospital bills. I think there is a limit to how far back before SSI payment is authorized that Medicaid will pay unpaid bills. If Medicaid does pay the remainder above what the settlement paid, I don’t think that you will owe Medicaid anything because the settlement and Medicaid will not be paying the same part of the bill twice.

          Your husband should get a letter from the local office within about two weeks to provide a financial update so that the SSI benefits can be calculated. SSI monthly benefits will be paid first, followed by SSI back pay, SSDI monthly benefits, and SSDI back pay in that order. It can take a month or two or sometimes more to get the SSDI started after the SSI has been paid. The SSDI back pay will be reduced by the amount of SSI back benefits paid for the same months.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Crissie says:

            Hello,
            first I would like to apologize because I was not able to find a location to start a new thread, so I had to comment on this one…

            My mom told me in Sept 2015 that she had a lawyer who went to court for her and was able to prove that she was owed back SSDI due to some reason or another (sorry, I have am not familiar with the terminology…)
            She had already received one large back payment from SSDI a few years ago and was collecting her monthly amounts from there forward and then fast forward to September and it was determined that she was owed more back pay.
            One month later in Oct. 2015 she suddenly died. I had called her lawyer to inform him and he told me that I was now eligible to that payment. He had me fill out some paperwork and about a month ago I got a letter saying that they were fully favorable (again) in her judgement and that I would be receiving payment. I called her lawyer and the office told me that we were all done since it was awarded to me.
            I’m trying to figure out: am I supposed to contact Social Security and give them my account information for a direct deposit or to just touch base with them in general? Or do I just sit back and wait for a check? Is there a rough guess on how long it will take for payment to come through from here on out?

            I hate to sound like I’m super concerned about this money that wasn’t mine in the first place – but realistically, I kind of am. When my mom died it was unexpected and also not planned for. I had to have her cremated and haven’t been able to pay off the funeral home. I feel terrible because her ashes and personal belongings have been there for 4 months now and I’m hoping that this money will be enough to pay them off and finally put my mother to rest.
            Thank you!!

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Crissie,

            You need to go to Social Security and inquire about the status of the paperwork the attorney helped with. It sounds as if it might have been an application for underpayment. Ask whether they need a birth certificate to prove relationship or any other documenttion. Also, as you suggested, give them your bank account information. That will guard against loss of a check. You might also ask for the local office to follow up to the payment center since it has been four months. Enough time has past that it should have been paid by now.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  42. heather brown says:

    hi kay. i was approved oct 2015.with a disability date of dec 2013. received my kids back pay from my ssd at the end of dec 2016 and my first monthly check jan 2016. i sill have not received m back pay for myself . i have called and they have put messages through to the back pay people. i am so stressed something is wrong. i do not or have never received workers comp or ssi. i just do not understand

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      It can take a couple of months or more to get back pay after getting the initial monthly payment. If you have been told that is has not yet been issued then you can be assured it is not lost in the mail and it is just a matter of waiting. You might ask the local office to double check that they let the payment center know that no SSI was involved.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Catherine says:

        I hope u see this!!! My husband got sick in June of 2015. Had quadruple bypass at the end of June and a defibrillator put in in october. Filed for disability at end of June when we were told how bad his heart was (was at 25% before surgeries then went down to 17% after) well, about 2 weeks ago we got a call to get info on his children (we have 2 together but he has 4 other children-3 of which r under 18) so they could set up their benifits. The lady said he was found disabled in mid december. So how long should it take for him to start receiving his first payment/backpay (backpay will be from December to now I think) thanks for any help!!!

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Catherine,

          I would expect your husband to receive the first monthly benefit within a month to six weeks, followed by the children’s benefits and the back pay he and they have coming beginning with December.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Cindy says:

        Miss Kay,
        Can IRS take my disability lump sum if I am in Non Collectible status and a lien has been placed? IRS di take our 2016 refund but still waiting for my Lump sum.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Cindy,

          Yes, the IRS can take part of your Social Security back pay and ongoing benefits to collect back taxes. You will receive a letter before the garnishment for the tax lien begins. Read it carefully because you may have a basis to have the garnishment levied in a lower amount.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • michael says:

        I need help my mother was in the nursing home I’ll bring her up here from Georgia to to live with me I transfer everything from Georgia to Ohio they say they put the money in her account October 12th but we didn’t receive anything she has passed away now how do I go about getting her backpack

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Michael,

          File an application for underpayment to be paid. If your mother had no qualifying spouse at the time of her death, your application would be in behalf of all her children. You may need the death certificate and all the children’s birth certificates, addresses, and phone numbers.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Julie says:

        Hi Kay,
        I was awarded in October 2015. I started receiving monthly payments at the end of December 2015 for January 2016. I’m owed almost four years and not approved for ssi. I’m getting ssd along with Medicare a, b, d. My question is, who can I contact regarding back pay. I get the runaround every time I call and my congressperson was very unhelpful. I do have a state disability offset for a year, but they have had that info for six months. I’m homeless now and they did put in a dire need request, however, it is going on six months. Even my attorney doesn’t understand the issues. Is there someone else I can call or do you have any advice? Thank you.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Julie,

          It seems that you have done all you can to follow up in that you have had your local office send a dire-need request to the payment center.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Mone says:

      I was told they stop giving out back pay since Oct 2015 and they only go back ,10 years I don’t know who telling the truth or not

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Mone,

        Individuals have been receiving back pay, so it would appear the first thing you mention is incorrect. Back pay is limited to the later of twelve months before the month of the initial application that was approved or the sixth full calendar month after the beginning of your disability as established by Social Security.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  43. Walter M. says:

    On Feb. 22 I have my hearing. Question on back pay though what is this about workmans comp being and back pay? I was never informed how this works within the procedures either from when applied and from my attorney.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Walter,

      The amount you can receive for the same period from workers compensation and Social Security Disability is limited to 80% of your current average earnings as determined by Social Security. This includes lump sum workers compensation settlements, which are prorated out over time. The proration amount per month is determined by calculation factors in your workers comp claim. The Social Security Administration (SSA) uses different formulas to calculate average current earnings. The formula used depends on your specific circumstances. If you are approved, you can contact SSA for information about how your average current earnings were calculated.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  44. Tammy Patten says:

    Is there a way we can monitor our backpay or our accounts on SSDI
    so we know what is going on. When we can expect it?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tammy,

      You can set up a “My Social Security” account on http://www.ssa.gov; however, I believe that nothing will show up until the payments have been calculated and are authorized for release.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Toni King says:

        My husband was approved back in July 2015 for SSDI from work injury from 2008. December 2015 he got his fist payment. It is February 9, 2016 and we call every week for a update on his back pay. Every week we get another answer. What else can we do they owe him more than $25,000 which they have admitted.

        Thanks
        Toni

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Toni,

          Your husband’s Social Security back pay will be offset (reduced) by any worker’s compensation award he has received if payments are continuing or a lump sum award was large enough that the monthly proration of the amount would extend into the future far enough to overlap with Social Security entitlement. Payment of back pay frequently pends two months after monthly benefits start, and a workers compensation award can extend that time. If your husband hasn’t received payment by the end of March, ask the local office to send an inquiry and request for payment to the payment center.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • KRISTINA POLLARD says:

        I apologize for writing on this thread, but couldn’t see where to start another one. I had my hearing 1/8/2016. My lawyer told me I was approved, but I haven’t received that letter yet. I called and they said I’m in the “editing” stage. What does that mean? And how long does that take till I get a letter? Also, I put my kids on my application. Do I need to reapply for them once I get an approval letter or does it happen automatically since I put them on the original application?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Kristina,

          Editing means that a decision has been made and a letter written, which the judge reviewed and sent back for corrections. I would say you will have a letter within less than a month. Once you get the letter, wait about a week and then contact your local office to find out if they need you to provide any documents or complete any forms to complete your children’s claims.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • KRISTINA POLLARD says:

            Thank you. I actually just called today and found out my letter was sent Friday and was told I will be very happy. How long till I get my first check and back pay? Since I had my children already on, will they provide the back pay for them?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristina,

            If your earnings record was sufficient to provide dependent benefits, the children will be paid for the same months you are. It can take a month or two to get benefits started. Usually monthly benefits will start first, followed by back pay, and your benefits will start before your children’s.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Ni ni says:

        Mines giving me a date how long will it take to go in my bank

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Ni Ni,

          I do not understand what you mean by “mines giving me a date.” If you would like to explain, I will try to respond.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Ann says:

        I have no clue on how to post anywhere but someone’s comments. Kay, I was approved for my ssd last week. I have a 11 year old child that draw ssi d/t a learning disabilities will him and my husband both be able to get back pay even though my minor child was already on ssi?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Ann,

          If your child’s back benefits were for disability and not for being a dependent child, the back pay would definitely be reduced for the SSI he received for the same period. I am not certain that retroactive offset applies when the Social Security benefits are not disability benefits. Once your child has been paid, please let me know whether there was an offset. Ongoing, your son’s monthly SSI will be reduced for the Social Security.

          If your husband’s work earnings are not too high, your husband can receive benefits for having a child of yours under age sixteen in his care. He can receive back pay for the months your child was entitled, even if your child’s back pay is entirely offset (withheld) for SSI in those months

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Charmaine says:

        Hello Ms.Kay
        I come to this site often, but I have not a clue how to write a post beside clicking on reply,so please forgive me for the way I went about this. My question is I got approved for my disability back and the Cember 2015 and I received my first check and February 2016 but it’s for is my payback I am getting the runaround every time I called I even call the number I guess to the payment center and the gentleman told me to call back within two weeks when I called back and he would not answer his phone I leave voicemails he will not return my calls so I’m wondering when should I be receiving my backpay because everyone because every one that I went to court which has already received their backpay and ones that went after me that I spoke with him already receive your backpay and I have yet to receive anything so what is my next day off please help .

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Charmaine,

          You can expect your back pay to be paid within one to two months of receiving your first monthly benefit.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Judi says:

            I have read all these and i was finally approval on DEc 3, 2015 i recieved my first check on Feb 24, 2016 And i was wondering how long will it take to get my pay back check. it is as of March 8 in the payment center. Remind you i have apply on Feb 29, 2012 this is FOUR years of being put on the back burnner. You would think that the SSD would make sure it paid ASAP!

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Judi,

            Release of your back pay will be processed routinely by the payment center in the order it was received because there are many other people who are owed a few years of back pay. Only dire-need cases (homeless or in danger of becoming homeless) are handled faster and even those take a substantial length of time because there are backlogs in all categories of claims. You can expect it to take one to three months.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Rhonnie says:

            Hi Kay. I was approved for ssdi by a judge. I recieve my first payment Jan 10 2016. I have yet to receive my backpay or even a letter telling me when I can expect it. Do you have any idea when I will receive it?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Rhonnie,

            If you have not received the back pay by the end April 10, ask your local office to check to be sure there is nothing that the local office needs to do, such as post on your record that SSI is not involved, and ask them follow-up with the payment center.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Robin says:

      Hi Kay
      I have a question… My ex- husband has been approved for SSDI and we have 3 children. He owes almost 50,000 in back child support.. The kids have received their lump sum for their portion of his benefits.. What I want to know is are they entitled to his lump sum for his arrears.. Court orders have been sent to SS and they have received what I believe is a “regular ” monthly payment.. But what about his back pay? When will they receive that?

      Thanks

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Robin,

        Social Security will withhold a portion of your ex-husband’s back benefits and, if needed, ongoing benefits to satisfy the court order. It may take a while for his back benefits to be processed because of the court order, which requires advance notice to him and which gives him the right to present an argument for having less withheld based on his own financial need.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Debra says:

      This is where I am at with my SSI SSDI and Widow. I received my own SSI and back pay. Now I am waiting for the remainder of my back pay on my widows.
      Calling gives me nothing but it is still being worked on..one says 60 days another say six weeks and that will be the 26th. Confusing to me

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Debra,

        The local Social Security office has no control over how long it takes for the payment center to complete work on a claim. The representative listens to how long you have been waiting and tries to give you an estimate based on their past experience. Hence the discrepancies.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  45. Rita says:

    I have been receiving both SSDI and OWCP since 2012. I am 63 years old. In October 2015, I was rated and my OWCP was reduced by $400.00. I wrote a letter in November to SSA informing them and included documentation, requesting that my SSA offset be recalculated. I heard nothing so on December 28, 2015 I visited my local office and was told they would research what happened and asked that I call back in 7 days. At that time I was told my case was with the payment center for recalculation and I should receive something no later than January 28. It is now January 31 and I have heard nothing. Who should I contact now? I thought they had only 60 days to get payment recalculated and issued. It is now that time so what do I do now? How do I get the contact information to the payment center to check on my case?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rita,

      Contact you local office and find out which payment center has your claim for recalculation. They may not give you the phone number because the payment centers are not staffed to field phone calls, but you may be able to obtain it by searching online.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  46. Bill says:

    Am I eligible for back pay of ssdi. I was told I can’t do anything at the place of work In May. Social Security says there is a 3 or 5 month waiting period. Do I get back pay for the waiting period?.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Bill,

      If you became disabled in May 2015 and have a claim pending or approved now, your benefits will begin to accrue November 2015 (or October if you became disabled on May 1).

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Tanjella says:

        I’M sorry for joining a reply but did’Nt know how to ask Kay a question? My husband got approve Jan 28 2016 got decision letter 3 days later, got letter for ssi which he declined per attorney got letter stating he declined it. Went to site and it said he will receive his first check March 16, 2016 got award letter February 26 spoke went to social security office February 29 they said its process that lawyer be paid this week and that he didn’t have no hospital bills so he dosnt have to start Medicare in 2014 when he became eligible. So the question is when will he receive back payment? She told him its experdicted

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Tanjella,

          Your husband’s back benefits will be paid after the monthly benefits start, possibly one to two months later.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  47. John Asaro says:

    Hi Kay, Ive read through the comments and you’ve done a great job answering peoples questions so hopefully you could help me with mine. I received my first months SSI payment of $733 on December 1st. I also receive $80 from NY state. I have not received my backpay as of yet though. I went to my local disability office the beginning of this month to see what was up and they said they’re still waiting to hear from social services about money to be taken out of my back pay from them, as I received rental assistance for 7 of the 10 months I was approved for backpay for. I received $309 in rental assistance for 7 of those 10 months, plus $90 twice a month for a total of $489 each month. I’m guessing disability will take out $489 than for the 7 months I received it? Also, in my awards letter I received in October it said I should receive $7,333 in back pay(10 months) and doesn’t say anything about money to be taken out from that due to rental assistance. Would it be possible for me to hold disability to that $7,333 backpay award quote? Also, like I said I also receive $80 from NY state each month in addition to the $733. I was told by the 1-800 number to speak with NY state about receiving backpay from them and when I did call the number given to me, the person I spoke with said to call them when I receive my first back pay check. Can you tell me how this works? Will I receive $800 (10 months backpay of $80) all at once soon after my first backpay installment award is received or would it come in 3 increments 6 months apart or perhaps at the end of the year, when I receive my last back pay check, due to me receiving too much over the 3 month, $2,199 limit? FInally, as I previously stated, I went to my disability office the first week of the month and was told I should receive my first months backpay by the first week of February and a letter was sent out to bring attention to the matter. I’m really looking forward to this money and was wondering if you knew how much I should rely on this time frame given? If I donot receive the backpay by the first week of Feb. like I was told should I try to bring the matter to the attention of my states congress like I see in some of your advice given in previous comments? Thank you very much for your advice as it is extremely hard to speak with any one knowledgeable on this. -John

    • John Asaro says:

      *…was told I should receive my first INSTALMENTS backpay by…”

      • Laura knight says:

        I was wondering if i would be able to ask for more of my back pay released so i could move back home to Texas now that.ive won my case

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Laura,

          If you were approved for Social Security Disability, you will receive all the back pay at once. If you were approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), you can request release of more than the initial installment. I don’t know whether you will be successful. I suggest that you state the reason why the move is urgent (closer to family for help, etc.). Also, present an estimate of your moving costs including transport and move in costs in Texas.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      If the $80 from the State of New York was paid separately from the federal payment of $733, the back pay will be paid separately. I do not know whether it will be paid in a single payment or spread out over three installments. I doubt it would all be paid at the time of the third installment.

      The letter telling you how much you are eligible to receive in back pay is the amount before any public assistance debts you have are paid from it. Social Security will use some of that benefit to pay you debt directly to the state.

      I would not involve a congressperson about your back pay at this point because the office has given you a reasonable explanation for why your back pay is being held–waiting for the state repayment process to be completed, which requires the state to take some action too. If you have not received the back pay by February 10, try following up with your local office to find out if they are waiting for action from the state. If so, you can try following up with the state office to request they provide what is needed.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Tyisha says:

      My mother passed before she received her SSDI. I was informed that me and my siblings will receive the back pay that was owe to her. I received $820 this month in my bank account form SSA but they haven’t send any notice of the deposit. Is it normal to get a payment before a notice. Also I haven’t receive a letter of how much was due my mother. Also my mother local office had me give them my siblings name and addressee because their was only one space on the form for a bank account information will like to know how my sibling will receive their portion.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Tyisha,

        It is quite common for payment to arrive before a letter. You should get a letter within about a week. Your siblings portion of the underpayment will likely be sent to them in a check via the postal service. (The amount due your mother may be $820 times the number of her children.)

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Tyisha says:

          Thank you Kay

          • Tyisha says:

            Hello Kay,

            I talked to a rep today regarding my late mothers claim. I was told that she was approved for both SSDI and Ssi after her death. The rep informed me that Ssi took out money from SSDI but my mother never received monies form Ssi. She was due underpayment from SSDI Oct. 2013 until July 2015. I haven’t received any notice from either about how much was due. If you can gave me some insight on this matter it will be appreciated.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Tyisha,

            Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will not pay an underpayment to a child. Accordingly, no SSI would be paid and the Social Security Disability (SSDI) underpayment should not be reduced by SSI and should be payable. I suggest that you ask the local office to verify to the SSDI payment center that though your mother was eligible, benefits were not payable during her lifetime and no one qualifies for the SSI underpayment. If she did not have a spouse, the SSDI benefits will be split among her children.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Kay Derochie says:

            You are welcome, Tyisha.

  48. JMark says:

    This process never ends. To summarize:

    Date of Disability (per Appeals Council in Aug 2015): Aug 2006
    Date of Application: July 2010
    First Appeal: Nov 2010 DENIED
    ALJ Appearance: Mar 2013 UNFAVORABLE DECISION
    Appeals Council Appeal: Nov 2013
    Appeals Council Decision: Aug 2015 PARTIALLY FAVORABLE
    Received Medicare Part A: Oct 2015
    Receiving Medicare Part B: July 2016
    Current Benefits Determined: Oct 2015. It was found that I am not due any benefits after Dec 2014.
    Jan 26, 2016: Received Back Pay

    It never ends. I have not received my Award Letter yet. I am fairly certain that the amount of Back Pay is incorrect. Off the top, I had filed an appeal to disallow my lawyer his statutory pay, for he abandoned me during the Appeal Council process. The Bar investigated the complaint and was supposed to disallow the $6,000.00 payment. Second, I believe they have miscalculated the number of months to be paid. All in all, the SSA is about $20K short. My immediate question: Will I have an opportunity to appeal the award amount? Any other comments appreciated. I feel like this has been the longest running case in SSA history!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.,

      You can appeal the amount paid; however, you need to say why the calculation is wrong. Based on an established disability date of August 2006 and an initial application date of July 2010, I would expect benefits to begin to accrue July 2009 because maximum retroactivity is twelve months before application. When you get the award letter, it should tell you the months being paid and the amount per month initially and the amount after increases due to cost-of-living adjustments. If benefits cover from July 2009, the amount paid is probably correct.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  49. Jenny says:

    My father passed Oct 1 2015 and my mother is due to receive death benefits. She already receives her own social security of a small amount, which she can not live monthly off of. I was told in October she would start receiving his benefits in November…it never was deposited. I was told in November it would be December…again never was deposited. I was told in December “14 more days” after it was apparently escalated to the payment center, still after 14 days it was not issued to her. It is now end of January and she is out of money that she had saved. I have contacted the supervisor at our local office again about this and they said they did what was called a “manager to manager” to the payment processing center bc her payment is sitting there and they don’t know why it’s not being deposited to her. They now owe her over 2200$ of back pay and told me to wait 30 more days. I explained we don’t have 30 more days! I DID contact our local congress and they took over so FINGERS CROSSED something gets done or we are going to be in big trouble with her landlord and utility bills, not to mention the doctors she owes for her thyroid cancer she is having treated right now. Any other advice???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenny,

      You have taken all the right actions with Social Security. I suggest communicating with the landlord, utility companies, and her doctor about the delay and that when the money is sent to her, she will have the funds to cover any late payments.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  50. Jessica Macey says:

    My husband got a fully favorable decision by a judge in May 2014. He started receiving monthly benefits in July of 2014. We went into the office in September to set me up as the payee. While there, signed our children up for auxiliary benefits. We got their back pay 2 weeks later, and monthly benefits since. The issue is we have not received back pay for my husband. We got an award letter last summer stating the amount of back pay owed (18 months worth). I tried to be patient, but got nowhere with that. I have tried to be pushy, also got nowhere with that. My lawyer is getting no answers either. He has tried to send in requests (Baltimore) that are supposed to be responded to within 15 days, and that time period has come and gone. Where do I go to get help resolving this? It is very frustrating to have creditors after us for money, and not being able to do anything about it when so much money has owed to us for so long. Our promise letter is not enough anymore. It has been a solid 8 months since his judgment

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jessica,

      Your husband could try contacting his congressperson’s office to see if they will make an inquiry.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  51. Michelle says:

    My son was approved for ssi. I finally received his award letter as of jan 16, 2016. It says he will receive his first payment of $733 on Feb 1st. But, they say ssa will get in touch with me about his back pay. What does that mean when they say they will get in touch with me about when he will receive his back pay? Im confused. Please help me understand. Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michelle,

      Probably within a month you will get a notice regarding the amount of back pay due and how it will be paid out.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Hailey says:

        Dear Kay,
        My son was approved for SSI in August of 2015 and I received his first monthly benefit in October of 2015. I then got a letter stating the total amount of back pay they owe him. I called my local office and they said it’s at the payments center however, the payment center says they haven’t received anything on my son’s claim? It’s now January 2016 and I haven’t received any back pay whatsoever and they keep messing up his monthly payment and then i am owed underpayments. Should I have received his back pay by now? It’s been 5 months.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Haily,

          Usually Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay is paid within about sixty days of monthly benefits starting. (Your son is not receiving SSI if his payments are being authorized by a payment center and not the local Social Security office.)

          You do not say the date that your son became disabled. The first five full-calendar months of disability are not paid. If he became disabled before March 2015, then back benefits are due. I suggest that you go to the local office and tell them that you have been in touch with the payment center and were told that they have nothing pending on your son. Ask them to initiate an inquiry because the payment center has to have the claim or the monthly benefit would not have been paid and the letter would not have been sent. If that action doesn’t result in release of the payment, you might try contacting your congressperson’s office to see if they will make an inquiry.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  52. Sick of waiting says:

    Dear Kay,
    I have been waiting for my back pay since November. I received my first Ssi check in September and still haven’t received my back pay. I have called the 1800 # and my local office numerous times and each time I get different information. I went into the local office on Friday spoke to my case worker he stated that he was “behind & working on it”. It is nearly impossible to get in contact with this man and all he can say is he’s “working on it”? I called the local office Monday and was told that some parts of my case the representative was not able to access. The rep said that most likely means someone is working on my case. I’m stressing out because I have so many bills that I racked up over the years waiting on Ssi. After I pay all my bills I have no $$$ money at all! I am stuck and this seems really unfair that someone just has my file sitting on their desk. What options do I have? Is there anything else I can ? Or is it best to wait and see what happens?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sick of Waiting,

      The most reliable information you have received came from the claims representative who is responsible for your claim and that is that he is behind in his work. He likely is working on other claims too and getting them out in the order they were approved. If you have not received payment by the end of January, you could visit the office again and ask to talk with a supervisor. That might or might not prioritize your claim.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • J Mark says:

        Hi Kay,

        I visited my local office right after Christmas. I spoke with the office supervisor. Regarding Backpay: he stated that SS has been working on it since October 13, 2015. He even gave me a dollar figure. He said that I should receive my award letter by January 13, 2016 (which I didn’t). He stated that I would need to review the award letter before funds are disbursed. He also sent a message mentioning dire need. He also stated that I would be enrolled in Part B dating from 01/01/2016 (didn’t happen). I will call him tomorrow to follow up. Seems too many people are not getting their Backpay in a reasonable amount of time. Kay, what is preventing the SSA from never sending out Backpay? What is my leverage? Anybody else, I could go to court to collect a debt. Thanks for your comments.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear J.,

          Insufficient staffing causing backlogs is causing the delays in getting payment out. The fact that amounts and Medicare eligibility dates are available may indicate that you will see payment by the end of the month. If you son’t, you might ask your congress person’s office to follow up on it.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  53. amy says:

    i spoke with social security today and they aid that my first installment of backpay from ssi has been processed and I was wonder how long after it is processed will i get it and does that mean this month?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Amy,

      Presumably “processed” means that payment has been authorized. If so, I would expect you would receive it within about five days.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • ray says:

        I got my sis an one small bk pay ck but need all of my back pay to get everything I owe played up they told me every 6 mouths I would get a ck of my bk pay but I will lose everything by the time I get the back pay how do I get it all faster

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Ray,

          Make a list of what you owe and what you will lose due to repossession or foreclosure. Then make a written request to Social Security to release a larger amount of your SSI back pay in the first installment so you can keep from losing property due to repossession/foreclosure. If you have proof of the arrears and/or warning letters present those with your request.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Jennifer Childers says:

      Hey I’m not sure if I commented in the right spot & if I commented on someone else’s post I am sorry. I didn’t see any other comment options.. but here is my question ..My dad died Nov. 7th. .. I was informed I would be receiving his back pay because he died before it was paid out. I went to the social security office & filled out a paper saying I was his next of kin & they told me once they figured out an amount it would be direct deposited in to my checking account. Any idea on how long that takes? He was approved before he died but didn’t receive his back pay before he died.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jennifer,

        Release of the underpayment to you is likely to take two months from the date you completed the application to receive it. If you have not received it within two months, ask your local office to follow up to the payment center.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Dedra Bodden says:

      i talked to them today also, and was told my son’s back pay is processing. does that mean i will receive it in 5 days also?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Dedra,

        If your son’s entitlement is to Social Security and you don’t receive in February as told (accordingly to your earlier post), you can ask the local office to follow up to the payment center. If the entitlement is to Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the payment will be authorized by the local office and you can follow with them directly. “Being processed” can mean that anything from waiting its turn in the queque to have payment calculated to close to having payment go out.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  54. Kristine says:

    Hi,
    After a year, my daughter was finally approved for SSI on 12/23/15. We are still waiting on her first initial payment which they said will be February 1st.
    I have to set up a dedicated account for her back pay to be direct deposited into. I am setting up the account tomorrow (being I still have no paperwork for this and I just found out today what the account is).
    Can anyone tell me, once I give SS the account number and routing number, how long will it take for funds to be direct deposited into the account?
    thank you in advance for your help.
    Krissy

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristine,

      Usually the back pay is paid after the first monthly check. If you haven’t received it by March 1, follow up with your local office. Note that use of the funds deposited to a dedicated account is restricted to just a few purposes. You can learn more at https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200602140.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • D D says:

      Hello
      My court date was December 15 2015, to appear before the ALJ, when I arrived the court clerk and my lawyer stated there was no reason for me to appear as the ALJ has ruled in my favor,I’m wanting to know what is the next step in my case, how long is the wait, is there a number I can call to check, in the state of Texas

      Thank You

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear D.D.,

        You can call the hearing office and how far along the appeal is in the written decision and letter preparation process.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  55. Ashley says:

    Hello! I was given a fully favorable decision on October 7, 2015. I received a partial check for my monthly payments at the end of December and I am waiting on my backpay. I opted out of SSI in October, have direct deposit in place, no workers comp, no other benefits. I even went down to the local SSA office almost two months ago to ask if i was sorted out to be my own payee. After waiting and waiting, i spoke to a case worker by chance one day while in the hospital at the beginning of December and she told me that they made a mistake and didn’t send notification to the payment center that i was clear to be my own payee. I have called several times a week since then and I have gone to the office once a week. I am now being evicted if I don’t pay my rent because their “mistake” and all they can tell me is that it’s “in the final stage”. I was told weeks ago that the local office would need to have the manager call a manager at the payment center to move things along. They keep saying that this will be done but nothing has changed. I having a baby in a week and a half and I am freaking out!! Is there anything that I can do to help this situation? Do i call my lawyer? Do I go to SSA and ask to speak to a manager? My case worker doesn’t return my phone calls at all. I feel really helpless at this point and my landlord is getting impatient. Thank you in advance for any guidance that you can bestow upon me.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ashley,

      I suggest that you both talk to the manager at your local office and call your congressperson’s office. Explain that you are near being evicted, expect to deliver a baby within a week and a half that two months processing time was lost due to the local office’s mistake. Try to get the manager to write a note that you have been medically approved for benefits and that payment is being processed by the payment center. Ask the congressperson’s office to contact the payment center with your dire need case.

      In the meantime, communicate with your landlord frequently and keep asking not to be evicted. Also, go to your local department of human services and explain the situation. See if they will give you Temporary Assistance to Needy Families this month to pay the rent because your baby will be born this month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Ashley says:

        Thank you!! I will try my Congressperson this week! I also just got word today that my lawyer just received payment so I’m hoping that means I will receive payment this week as well.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          You are welcome, Ashley.

        • Antonio says:

          I contacted my congressional representative and was able to cut down my hearing wait time by 90%. It definitely does help get the lead out if congress gets involved. I had my hearing but I’m still waiting on my decision.

  56. Christina says:

    Hi, I was approved for my SSI in November 2015 I just received my first installment check of $2199 yesterday. I was told that I could go to the local SSI office and get another installment if I have unpaid bills or if I owe someone who has been helping me while I was waiting to get my disability. I owe a couple people that have helped me tremendously over the past couple years with my rent and clothing. Its been really rough and I promised along that when and if the time came I would pay them back. So I’m wondering what I need to do or say?
    Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Christina,

      Tell Social Security what you told me–that you owe two people a lot of money for supporting you while your claim was pending and that you need to repay them. Social Security may or may not consider that grounds for early release of the funds in the same way they might it you owed a medical provider. I suggest taking as statement from each person as to the amount you owe them and confirming that the help they provided was a loan with an agreement to be repaid upon approval of your claim. (That might also help you get a recalculation of your claim to be paid at a higher rate for past months if you were not paid $733 for the past months in which you got help.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  57. Marlene says:

    I won my hearing on September 30, 2015. I Have been waiting since then to receive ANY money. I have been told that I ill receive my first monthly payment on the 3rd Wednesday of this month but I really need the back pay to pay mounting bills. When I call the 1-800 # I get a different answer each time. Is there a number to reach the payment center so that I can get the info I need?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Marlene,

      Try calling this number, 410-965-8882, and follow the prompts. Note that I am not certain the number is current. Also note that it is not a toll-free number.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Marlene says:

        Thank you so much! I spoke with a very nice person who is taking care of everything! Thank you!

      • salina says:

        Kay, I am sorry to write on this thread but couldn’t figure out how to start a new one. I am completely frustrated. I was awarded ss disability back pay by a judge in March 2015. I received an ssi payment a few months after that. I filed for my children on a Saturday and received their payment in 9 days. In May 2015 my lawyer called into the local ss office about my payment. They said they didn’t show I was supposed to receive any more since I had gotten ssi. My lawyer explained there is still a little over $30,000 owed to me. I still have not received it. I have called the local office more times than I care to mention and they keep telling me to be patient. They claim they requested a ‘manager to manager’ with the payment center back in November. Still nothing. How do I even know they are telling me the truth at this point. My lawyer was paid long ago. I don’t see how this can be legal. Please help. Thanks in advance.
        Salina

  58. Sherrie Bates says:

    Dear Kay,
    I spoke with someone at the Baltimore payment center this morning and was informed that my first monthly check will be deposited next week, the second Wednesday in the month. She told me to call back in 7 days to check on my back pay but she also told me to check my banking account daily because it may show up. Have you ever had someone in my situation that actually received both payments within days of each other? Has someone received back pay before their monthly pay before?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sherrie,

      Typically people who get their benefits in a timely matter don’t make the news. If your back pay is for a relatively short period of time, it might be released around the same time.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Tracy newton says:

      Hello I wad reading your comment and was wondering what number u call to the payment center to check on your check
      Thank you

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Tracy,

        Dear Tracy,

        The payment center is not set up to take calls from the public. A congressperson’s office can call directly and I have known attorneys to be successful in getting through to the person authorizing a specific claim but it is rare. The procedure that Social Security has set up for follow up is for you to request that the local office send a status request. They can send one every thirty days. However, the situation is that in general follow up doesn’t speed anything up because the workloads are heavy. If you have been waiting over four months for the first payment to start or over four months for the back pay after the first monthly payment, it could be appropriate to ask your congress person to follow up.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  59. elaine says:

    after years of waiting and being denied ssi my husband was finally approved. we separated in august and he told me he was approved for ssi in oct. I’m not sure when he was actually approved but I also found out he also will receive benefits for our children who live with me. I have asked him over and over again what the status is of the payments and he keeps saying he is still waiting. Should we still be waiting and is there anything I can do since he told the ss office that the children live with him when they actually live with me. He went to court in June and didn’t tell me he was approved until Oct. Whenever I would ask him about it he would just tell me “I’m still waiting” and then finally in Oct he tells me he was approved. I don’t know what I need to do to get my children’s portion of his disability.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elaine,

      It is possible that your husband and the children have not yet been paid even though he was approved in October. You can go to you local Social Security office with your husband’s Social Security number and apply to be payee for the children so that their money comes to you. Try to take some proof they live with you–their names on a rental agreement or school documentation.

      If you don’t have his Social Security number readily available, try to find it on old business papers such as tax returns. If you can’t come up with the number, try applying with only the children’s social security numbers. Once their payments start, Social Security should be able to find them in the computer system using their numbers.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  60. Lucy says:

    Hi Kay, I lost my job 12/4/2013 due to a disability. I applied in August of 2014, was denied, got an attorney Feb 2015 and was since approved in Sept 2015 with a start disability date of AS OF OCT. 7, 2014. (may be coincidence but my birthday in Oct 7). Question 1) why was my disability date awarded on Oct 7 2014, AFTER the onset of the disability of Dec 4, 2013? (I’m calling the last day I worked the onset since I was terminated due to absenteeism because of the disability. Since my approval date was OCT 7, 2014, the first month I was entitled to payment (5 months later was APRIL 2015). Notification of approval was in late Sept 2015 so my regular monthly payments started in Oct 2015 and every month since. But I never received back pay for April 2015 to Oct. 2015.

    In Dec. 2015 I applied for my minor child (when I found out I could do that). He was approved in less than 3 weeks and I just received his 5 mo. back pay from April 2015 to Dec. 2015. His regular mo. payments will begin in Jan 2016. 2) My second question is how can he get his April to Dec 2015 back pay before I got mine (still have not received it). Again, my first payment was made in OCT. but DISABILITY date was APRIL so it’s been 3 months and still no back pay for the primary from April 2015 to Oct 2015. Can you think of any reason why it’s taking so long for MY back pay to be paid?? Or what do I have to do to determine when it will be paid or why it has not? I appreciate your help very much. Lucy

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lucy,

      You should have been paid your back pay by now. I suggest that you ask the local office to send a memo to the payment center notifying them that your children have received their back pay, but you have not. Something has gone wrong. If you are told that it was paid, report non-receipt and ask for a replacement payment. As far as the different established date of disability, it could be that October 7 was the first date you had medical documentation of the severity of your condition and its being your birthday is coincidental. On the other hand, you did not say how old you became on your birthday. If you were turning fifty-five, you could have entered into a new age bracket that did not require you to be disabled from occupations you’ve not done before thus making you disabled as defined by law on that date but not before.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • scullen111 says:

        Had same issue back in 2000

        After numerous calls to social security and no results, I called my US Congressman who made inquiry.

        Amazingly I received my back benefits shortly thereafter.

        Social Security said “oops he must have fallen through the cracks” when the congressman asked why I hadn’t received my back benefits.

        Point is… Grease the wheels of government….

        Hopefully this will help

      • Lucy says:

        Thanks Kay, I turned 55 on Oct 1 so that has to be exactly it. Not sure why my attorney did not know that. Thanks so much for your response. Piece of mind since I did not appeal as it would have been a waste of time so glad I made that decision to keep my stress level down. And I did finally get my back pay so all is settled now. Thanks again.

    • Kimberly says:

      I was approved for ssdi on 7/23/15 backdated to 9/1/2012. Received fully favorable letter on 8/14/15. I received my first check on 10/14/15. Went to the office added my daughter on the claim she is now 19 but her back pay is from when was 17 until she graduated high school @ 19. I received a letter for her back pay in October stating should receive it soon.still haven’t received her back pay or mine. I didn’t apply for ssi

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Kimberly,

        If you and your daughter ave not received back pay by January 15, you can go to the local office and ask that they send a follow up memo to the payment center; however, it is not likely to speed things up.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Beth says:

      I received my fully favorable letter today which is Sat. Also found they had deposited my backpay into my account today. Said my first check would start in March. I filed last Oct.
      My letter also states this
      “It is recommended that a determination be made concerning appointing a payee representative”.
      I’m very confused. I did state I was able to write checks and handle a checking account. If they thought I needed a payee why did they go ahead and deposit my backpay. I am so confused.
      It just says “it’s recommended”. Does that mean they won’t make me have a payee

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Beth,

        Apparently, the approval recommended that a determination be made rather than the approval including a determination. And, apparently, when your benefit payments were authorized, the decision was made that you didn’t need a payee.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  61. JIMMY ROTEN III says:

    Hey I was approved for both ssi ssd that have me down to get my first payment this month on the 31 do to the 3rd been on a Sunday but I just like to know how long be for I get my back pay for my ssd I know I’m not getting nothing on the ssi they said I made to much long-term disability insurance that I had at work so I just like to know when I will get my back pay cause I need it bad with me having 4 kids and about to loose every thing so any info will help cause everyone that I know always got thier back pay before their monthly payments started so someone plz give me some insight on this would be great

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jimmy,

      It usually takes a month or two to get the back pay after the monthly benefits start. I suggest that you check with your long-term disability (LTD)insurance company about your approval for Social Security Disability. Usually LTD is reduced by Social Security including for past months covered by your Social Security back pay. In other words, you may have to use the SSDI back pay to repay some of the LTD you have received.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  62. Patricia A Kelleher says:

    I have a question please. My husband and had been getting disabilty for some time. I am now also disabled. I am 47 years old. My husband I’d 66.can I not draw of of his disabily.? So confused please help

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Patricia,

      Unless you have a child of your husband’s under age sixteen in your care, you cannot receive wife’s benefits until you are age sixty-two. If you have worked, you might qualify for disability benefits on your own earnings records; and/or if your husband’s benefits are less than $1,120 gross, you might qualify for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability, also administered by the Social Security Administration.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Dedra Bodden says:

        i received an award letter for my son back in Nov. 2015. i have not yet received his back pay. i spoke with a lady from ss and she told me i should receive it by Feb 2016. i have not yet received it. How can i check if it even been sent out or processed?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Debra,

          If the payment is projected for sometime in February, the payment would not have been sent out yet. If you don’t receive payment in February, you can ask the local office to follow up to the payment center.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Casandra a fisher says:

        I got approved for my ssi on December 31 and I went to the appointment January 29th for my mom to sign payee papers and they told me I was getting $2199 in back pay and I will receive 488.35 every month on the 1st how long is it gonna take for my back pay to come back I’m from Arkansas??

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Casandra,

          The monthly benefits will start first. If you have not received the first installment of back pay within a month of getting your first monthly payment, have your mother follow up with the local office.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Melissa says:

        Hi ,

        Sorry for posting like this but im not sure how to start a conversation . Im a non US Citizen . I have a case worker but sometimes they are not helpful and i dont know all the rules of how social
        Security works . Basically my son was receiving a survivors benefit. When he was 16 i sent Baltimore a request to apply for Disability once he turned 18. My benefits for survivors was terminated once he turned 16. He is now 18 and they are still processing :( my case worker said he is working with the office to reinstate his benefits ? I received a letter in Dec 2015 stating payment amont for on or about 31st Dec. received nothing . Case worker dosent explsin much at all and im left looking online . I read that my benefits shoukd have continued but a bit hard when they hadnt even looked at my claim for a year and a bit after my son turned 16. I dont know what his entitled too and dies that letter stating benefit amount mean his been approved for disability ? Appreciate your input .

        Thanks Mel

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Melissa,

          If you son got a letter with a payment amount listed, it does mean that it is approved. If the approval was for disabled adult child survivor benefits on his father’s record and he lives with you, you can apply to have your benefits reinstated based on caring for a disabled adult child of your deceased husband.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  63. John says:

    Hello.
    I filed for Social Security Disability in 2010 myself & got denied. I got an Lawyer and received SSDI in 2013. I got my back pay from 2013 & my monthly benefits
    My Lawyer applied to get my SSDI start date to begin back on 2010 when I first applied.
    It was approved. So now I’m waiting to get my back pay from Oct. 2010 to Jan 2013. I’ve been waiting for 5 months. My Lawyer already got their 2nd payment in October.
    I called and the problem is that back when I was 19 I received SSI for 4 months, & they have to take the SSI out of the back pay I’m going to receive.
    I forgot about that.
    My Question: How do I find out how much I received on SSI? This was a long time ago.
    Is there a way for me to check, and How?

    Thanks for your reply
    JD

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      The amount would have been $674 or less per month depending on your living arrangements and other income at the time.

      Sincerely
      Kay

    • Viola Norris says:

      Hello I wanna no if Ssi have to give me my second back pay but I’m is housing court can they give me my money

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Viola,

        I am not sure what you mean by housing court, but if you mean you are about to be evicted, yes, you should be able to get the back pay released or at least enough to take care of your rent arrears. You need to request release of the amount your need. Be prepared to show proof of impending eviction.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  64. heather brown says:

    i am pretty stressed out . i had a hearing on 8/3. heard about a fully favorable decision on 10/17. ssd said the paperwork went through on 10/28 which is when i received my fully favorable letter. have not heard a thing since except for the meeting with my local office to add my kids.i have called a few times and only last week they told me my lawyer was paid out . just today the website says i am currently receiving benefits(it has been saying otherwise) so i called the 800 number and was told i am not scheduled my first payment until jan and she does not see anything about back pay. at my fully favorable hearing i was deemed disabled on 12/19/2012. i have never received ssi, workers comp, state aid. only temp disability for the first 6 months after i could no longer work…. i do not understand the hold up and why no one knows anything . all my bills are due, my mortgage is behind. i dont know what to do anymore

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      It sounds as if the December monthly benefit has been processed for payment. Benefits are paid the month after the month for which they are due, so your December benefit will be paid in January. It typically takes one to two months from the set up of the monthly benefit for the back pay to be processed and released and to get the children’s benefits in pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • Cindy says:

      I am in a similar situation EXCEPT I’ve been receiving SSDI benefits since 2004 when I became completely disabled. Problem I’m having is I tried to work part-time and due to this my benefits were “suspended” because SS said I used up all 9 of my trial work months and was earning above SGA. I was completely unaware of any of this until I received a letter stating my and my childrens benefits were being stopped. I was able to send in paystubs to show proof the earnings from my job that Social security had on file were in fact wrong. Once I was able to prove this I was told all the paperwork to have it corrected and for my benefits and my children’s benefits to be reinstated was sent to the “payment center” for processing. This is my problem the payment center hasn’t reinstated my benefits or my childrens. I am currently owed 3 months now of back benefits and I’m in jeopardy of losing my medicare and part D due to non payment because my disability hasn’t been reinstated. I had to quit my part time job due to my disability and have no income yet can’t get anyone to process my paperwork and reinstate my benefits and my childrens. I have even contacted my congressmens office I’m in such desperation financially and I still can’t get the payment center to process the paperwork. I’m at a complete loss. I have no money to pay my bills, I’m about ready to lose everything I have and I have 3 little kids that won’t get a Christmas this year. I’m just sick over all of this. Why hasn’t the payment center reinstated my benefits yet? I’ve been waiting and waiting and everyday I check the website to see that nope no benefits have been paid and my disability is still turned off. Why is it taking so long to reinstate benefits it’s not a new determination, I’m not waiting on any kind of decision. It’s a simple reinstatement. Does anyone have any experience with anything similar to what I’m going through? Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Cindy,

        You have done about all you can do to move things along. Presumably workloads are making your claim wait to be handled. I suggest that you contact your state or county social services office and apply for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) to get help while you wait. (You will likely have to pay back the TANF funds you receive.) I also suggest that you talk with your mortgage company or landlord to tell them the situation and ask them to hang in there with you while you wait. Emphasize that the suspension was an error and you have been told verbally that you will be reinstated with back pay, but the payment center is backlogged.

        As far as the Medicare goes, when you are reinstated the back pay will probably be reduced by the Part B and D medicare premiums for the back months and will pay doctor bills if the docs will extend credit. This probably will not help you get prescriptions filled now. If you have essential medications, check the pharmaceutical companies that make your meds and request a temporary free supply; some companies do this. Or, if you get TANF, use some of it to pay the premiums or see if a relative or friend can lend you enough to pay the premiums.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  65. Nikki says:

    Hello, I received a phone call from social security asking me to update my information for ssi…which I received 5 years ago but not since then. I have not been working for the past almost 2 years. I received a letter about a month ago saying They have adjusted my ssi for that time and will begin receiving benefits in December and they would be in touch about back pay. I received my first check on the 1st of this month. I have not heard anything about my back pay yet, when do you think I would receive my back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nikki,

      For me to understand and respond, please clarify: are you receiving Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI)?

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Nikki says:

        SSI only.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nikki,

          Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay in excess of $2,199 is paid in up to three installments six months apart. I would expect you to receive the first installment in January.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Nikki says:

            Thank you very much.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            You are welcome, Nikki.

          • brittney says:

            I have a ? Do they give u the monthly check first than the back pay money in january ?_ i gotback pay moneyin january july so do i receive on in january??

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Brittney,

            The last installment of back pay will be paid separately from the monthly SSI benefit so it is likely to be paid after the first of the month.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Nikki says:

            Hello, I still haven’t received any kind of back pay at all, no letter about it or anything. Any advice?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Nikki,

            Your last post was not totally clear. I think you were saying that the DDS did not have the 2011 claim but were working on the current claim. If that is the case, it can take from two to five months for the claim to be reviewed and a decision made. If you meant that the DDS had the 2011 claim in their system but not your current claim, you need to contact your local office and tell them that DDS doesn’t have the claim and ask them to double check that it is not still in the local office and do whatever else is needed to locate the claim and get it to DDS.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Zahida says:

      Hi Kay, My mom became disable on March 7 2015..She received her firs check in September. Should she receive any backpay?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Zahida,

        Your mother would be due any Social Security back pay because the first five full-calendar months of disability are unpaid.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  66. Ashley C says:

    Hello, I was given my letter of fully favorable decision on October 8, 2015 and I received a letter stating that I will get my first monthly payment the fourth Wednesday in December. I was given an amount for what my back pay will be but I have not gotten the funds yet. I called social security several times and no one can give me an answer. I signed up for a bank account and gave them the info at the end of October, I told them I never received workers comp when they said they were trying to figure that out and I was told that they were trying to determine if I’m my own payee, but when I went down to the SSA in my area, they said it stated I was my owner payee. I know my lawyer will get paid right before I do and that holds things up a bit as well. I also was approved for SSI but I dropped it because my SSDI benefits were high enou to make the SSI obsolete. I’m just curious if I will get the back pay this month or does it always come a month later? I’m currently hospitalized and need to pay my rent so I’m kind of in a panic and any info or timeframe averages for NYS would truly be appreciated. Thank you!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ashley,

      Social Security back pay is typically paid one to two months after the first monthly check. Call your local office and ask to have your claim flagged dire need and also ask them to be sure that your social Security computer record is coded for no SSI.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  67. Jay says:

    Hello Kay,

    I was found fully favorable and I have a son who is seven years old, from my ex-wife, who has sole physical custody, but we should have joint legal custody. Thedivorce papers shows that my son is with me 49% of the time and 51% with my ex. If i apply to have my son to my claim and is approved for disabled parent’s benefits for children, which parent, me or my ex wife would be responsible to be the payee for my son. Will they go by the fact that the divorce papers gives her sole custody and she will be my son’s payee or if I have proof (lease & school records) that my son lives with both of us, would I be named as my son’s payee?

    I also would like to know if I owe back taxes but is in non collectible status, will my backpay get taken by the irs?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jay,

      Please see my reply to your first post.

      Your Social Security back pay may be withheld to satisfy your tax debt now that you have funds.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Jason says:

        Would this be the case even if you submitted a OIC (offer in compromise) to the IRS and it is acknowledged before pay status was approved on SSDI claim?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Jason,

          I do not know the answer to that question. The IRS or a local Social Security office may be able to help you.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  68. Belle says:

    Hi Kay:

    I have a question. My daughter’s father filed for his SS benefits at age 68 just last month. He did not file at his full age of 66 but delayed it to this year. We have a daughter who’s 16 right now. I did NOT know that my daughter gets benefits as well when her father star getting his. So, my daughter should start getting at 2-years ago but NONE. Surprisingly, I got a call 2 weeks ago from Social Security Administration to set up an appointment, I did and give them all the documents they wanted such as my daughters birth certificate and the Married License. However, my daughter’s father and I are divorce 2 years ago and we were married or 14-years. My question is, when my daughter gets her month benefits? Does she gets paid for the 2-years back-pay she she haven’t receive? The father pays child support of $150/weekly, is my daughter still get that while getting the Social Security benefits? As I am aware of, there’s NO part of divorce settlement pertaining to Social Security benefits that the child-support will stop when she gets it. Also, I never remarried and do I get part of that benefit too since I am 100% full custody of my daughter. This things baffle me and hope you can enlighten my mind. I thank you in advance.

    Sincerely,

    Belle

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Belle,

      Your daughter is entitled to benefits for the same months that her father is entitled. If you are under age sixty-two, you are eligible for months that your daughter is under age sixteen. However, if she is disabled, you can apply to have your benefits continue after she turned age sixteen because you are caring for a disabled child. The child support will stay the same unless her father goes to family court and gets a revised support order.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Belle says:

        Thanks Kay For Reply:

        My daughter is not disable and I am 39 years old. I called Social Security and they said that my daughter is only entitle on the months when her father starts collecting the benefits at age 68 whereas his full retirement age was age 66 of which he did not file then. She said that, my daughter loses those 2-years and no back pay for her while my daughter was 13. She’s 16 1/2 now and she does not get anything yet. Is that true that since the file file only at age 68 even if his full retirement was age 66 and opted not to file and my daughter does not get anything for those 2 years? I thought hers is different than the father. Thank you

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Belle,

          You have received correct information. Your daughter is eligible only for the months that her father receives benefits.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  69. Victoria says:

    Hey!

    I’m not entirely sure that you will have an answer for this, but, my father applied for disability in 2012. I was 15 at the time. He’s just been awarded this year. I’m now 19 and married. I am aware that I will not receive back pay past the month that I was married. My question is, since I will be receiving the back pay up to the point of marriage, how is that going to be taxed? My husband and I have an income of about $45,000 this year. Will it be taxed? If so, how should I figure what to put back for it?

    Thanks.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Victoria,

      You will be paid benefits for each month that your father receives benefits through the later of the month before you turned eighteen or the month before you left high school (assuming you were still nineteen at that time). Questions regarding taxation should be directed to the IRS. I can provide the general information that Social Security benefits are not taxable if a married couple has income below $32,000.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  70. Heather says:

    I was a approved for full retro payment for my son March 2015 I got my first Payment April 2015 but now 9 months later I still have not received any back pay. I went to the office 2 1/2 weeks ago to see what was going on and the case worker told me that the supervisor had to approve the amount and everything and I would receive it in my bank account in 7 to 10 business days but I haven’t received anything yet. What should I do? When I call they tell me they don’t see anything requested and to visit the office I called the case worker and left a message but no call back yet.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      I suggest going back to the office and asking whether it is on the supervisor’s desk yet? If so, as the claims representative to ask the supervisor when you can expect to get payment. If the representative doesn’t want to do that, ask to speak to the supervisor.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  71. Michelle says:

    My child’s father was approved for social security disability. I had to apply to be the payee for my daughters benefits. When talking to the social security worker she told me my daughter would receive a back pay check that I was to use solely for my daughter. Her father hadn’t paid child support for two years waiting on a decision from disability. I was told by the worker that I would receive money for back child support out of her dads back pay and my daughters back pay was separate from the child support. I looked on the child support payment website and I had a large lump sum that said credit instead of payment. When I called child support they said this money was credited do to money sent to me. I did get money in my daughters name but no back child support. Her father still has not received his back pay. I guess i am asking if there will still be back pay coming to me out of his money or was the money my daughter received the only back pay we will be receiving. The reason I ask is I need to use some of the money to pay some bills off that incurred the last two years without receiving any child support from him and I cant use any of the money I received for her to do this. Do you have any answers?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michelle,

      You will receive your child’s Social Security dependent back benefits. It sounds as if the money withheld from her father’s benefit is being used to reimburse the state for welfare payments made for your daughter’s care during the time no child support was being paid. If the welfare equaled or exceeded the child support, there would be no child support left over to forward to you. You probably signed some agreement about that arrangement when you accepted government collection of child support. All of that said, I am not an expert on government-managed child support, so if needed ask the child support for more information if needed to be sure you understand the situation.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Jay says:

        Hi…my question is I was found fully favorable and I have a son (7yrs old) from my ex wife. My ex has sole physical custody but we share joint legal custody, even though the divorce papers shows that my son is with me for 49 percent of the time and 51 percent with my ex wife….if I apply to have my son added to my claim and is approved for children’s benefits of a disabled parent, which parent (me or my ex wife) would be responsible for managing my son’s benefits funds? Will they go by the fact that she has sole physical custody or will me showing proof that my son is also listed on my apartment lease and and other stuff be enough for the funds to be managed by me?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Jay,

          Your ex-wife should receive your child’s benefit because she has sole physical custody and is responsible for taking care of paying for his food and shelter and other needs. If he visits you, on weekends for example, she should give you a small amount of the benefits to cover his food while with you. She should get a receipt from you for the money given.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Jay says:

            So even if I have fourteen (14) court order overnights every month, she should be payee?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Jay,

            I suggest that you and her mother discuss who might best serve as payee in a visit to the local Social Security office. Considerations which parent will take the child shopping for clothes and school supplies and take the child to dental and hair cut appointments, supply the allowance, etc. Whichever parent is made payee will need to give the other parent some of the funds to cover food in the second household.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  72. Happy5717 says:

    I was wondering if you knew anything about this.
    I was recently approved for my SSI (disability). I have an written agreement that my lawyer drew up and had me and my roommate at the time sign. It stated that I would repay the loan whenever I started getting my back pay (in about 6 mos time). My lawyer seemed to think I would get my back pay and it would be up to me to pay my loan off. But, I talked to someone at SSI and they informed me that instead of me getting my back pay, that SSI (disability) would just cut them (whom I owe the money to) a check.
    Could you please tell me whom is right my lawyer or SSI? Thanks for your time in advance.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Happy,

      I think there has been some confusion. Social Security will pay your attorney directly. It will not pay your roommate directly.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  73. Valerie says:

    Dear Kay,

    After look at some of the questions and your replies. I am pretty much guess that it takes roughly 2 months if you are lucky to receive any of your back pay..
    I am wondering how do you find out how much back pay you are getting? I have yet to be told this and didn’t even know how much money I was getting a month nor that a payment had been put into my bank account until I happen to log onto my account on Social Security the other day and saw where they had my monthly amount and that a payment had been sent..Any assistance would be greatly appreciated thank you..
    Valerie

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Valerie,

      It is typical that benefits arrive in a bank account before a letter arrives in the mail. You should be receiving a letter with a week to ten days of the deposit and it should tell you the amount of back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • anonymous says:

        I had my PERC interview for ssi on November 13th and my case worker told me I’d she gets the paperwork she sent me back in time, I’ll start getting benefits December 1st. The city that I live in had a big windstorm that next Tuesday and knocked out 80% of the city’s power and mail was backed up do she didn’t get the paperwork in time. I called her this nothing to make sure she got the paperwork and she told me that I won’t get my monthly benefits in December. Is there a possibility I will get my first back pay payment in December or do I have to get a monthly benefit check first. I don’t have a bank account she’s going to put it on a direct express card.

        • anonymous says:

          I meant to say I called her this morning.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Anonymous,

          Monthly benefits are typically paid first, so I don’t anticipate that you will receive back payment in December.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • David says:

            Dear Kay,
            I live in New York and was in an alcohol treatment center and they were getting $970.00 a month for 13 months, Department of Social Services was paying for it.
            I applied for SSI on 5/6/14 and on 6/12/16 the judge said I won a favorable decision. The question is will the Department of Social Services keep all my back pay?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear David,

            I don’t know whether the state of New York recoups money paid for medical care as they do for cash assistance. I suggest that you check with the Dept. of Social Services.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Valerie C says:

        Thank you…
        I do have two more question, though..
        When they do deposit your checks for back pay do they also still give you your regular SSI/SSDI payment for that month as well? Because in some incidents you’d be over what you are allowed to have in resources or whatever you call it especially if you are single!
        And I was lead to believe that the SS office here in the state I live in would handle the state SS supplement and tell me whether I am eligible for that but it was not included in the award letter I got so do I have to contact the local DSS office to see if I am eligible for any state monies? I have looked on our states site but can not understand if I would be eligible or not because of how it reads.
        Thank you again for your time and patience.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Valerie,

          You will receive your regular monthly benefit in the month the back pay is paid. If in your state, Social Secuity administers the state supplement, I suggest following up with your local Social Security office about the SSI state supplement. The DDS handles only the medical review.

          Back Social Security and SSI benefits do not count toward the resource limit until nine months after they are paid.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

      • Mike H says:

        Hi Kay,

        Tomorrow I will receive my 2nd ssdi payment, just wondering when I may receive my back pay? Also in my letter received from social security it states that they withheld my benefits from March/2015 -September/2015 and also states how much they are giving my attorney out of the money withheld. Will I receive the difference plus the amount from October 2012 for which it is approved from that date? Please help.

        Mike

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Mike,

          If you were approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI), when the back pay is released you will be paid from the later of the sixth full calendar month after your established date of disability or twelve months before the date of your initial application. If you were approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI, benefits begin to accrue the month after application unless you applied on the first of the month in which case benefits begin with the month of application. You do not say why the back pay was being withheld. If it is being withheld because you were approved for both SSDI and SSI, your Social Security back pay will be offset (reduced) by the amount of SSI you have been or will be paid for the same months.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Kulp says:

            Kay,

            When will SSI release the backpay if my ssdi starts next month?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kulp,

            Your SSI back pay should be released before Social Security monthly payments start.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  74. Melissa Pritchett says:

    I went to court in Feb. & won received a letter with the dollar amount and months of eligibility. I have received 2 of my monthly income checks direct deposited. Every time I call the S.S. office I get different answers about when I will receive my back pay. Yesterday when I called the guy says they released my file 6 weeks ago they should have given me my money. My question is, what can I do to find out what is going on?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Melissa,

      I think the local office is saying that your back pay is pending release from the payment center. It seems to be taking about two months to get back pay after the first monthly check starts. If you don’t receive it in December ask your local office to check to be sure that the payment center knows you do not have an SSI claim pending. Otherwise, the local office can’t help much.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  75. J Mark says:

    Dear Kay,
    The entire process is incredible. To recap, my date of onset is August, 2006. My last letter from SSA outlined my recent work activity and if I would receive any benefits. According to SSA, my trial period has been used up. So, I am in the three year period. This period ends in September, 2016. The SSA has found that I will be paid back pay up until December 2014 only. Nothing for 2015. Since I am not entitled to any continuing pay, when can I expect my back pay? As an aside, I have received my Medicare card indicating I have Part A only. I thought that I automatically received Part B as well. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.,

      Usually Part B Medicare starts automatically and you have to decline it to keep premiums from being automatically withheld from benefits. In your case, you have no benefits in 2015 from which to withhold the premiums and that may be why your card shows Part A only. If you want Part B, you can enroll now in the annual open enrollment period, which ends December 7. You can get more information at http://www.medicare.gov.

      Note that to have benefits start right away you may have to pay the premiums for all the months your benefits were suspended for work so that you have continuous coverage. If you do not, your Medicare Part B is likely to start July 2016 and be at a somewhat higher monthly rate than if you pay for all of 2015. If you have unpaid medical bills from 2015 that could be covered by Part B, it could be beneficial to pay the premiums retroactively. Also note, if you want to pay retroactively, you will likely have to explain that you are newly approved and are already in the Extended Period of Eligibility (EPE) and that is why premiums weren’t paid. One more possibility is that you may be required to pay the past months for continuous coverage in order to have Medicare continue after your Social Security is terminated at the end of the EPE, which will happen if you are still performing substantial gainful activity at that time.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • J Mark says:

        Kay,
        Thank you for the explanation about Medicare. I have taken your advice and applied for Part B. I had to send it to my local SSA office. Once I get Part B, I intend to get Part C. The letter did mention that I will be keeping Part A. Do you have any idea when I will receive my back pay?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear J,

          I can’t predict when your back pay will arrive, but I would expect it would be sixty days or more from the date of the letter you received that said you were being paid for a limited period. As an aside, I suggest you check to be sure that you don’t have to request all Medicare coverages now to have them continue after your cash benefits ended.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • J Mark says:

            Kay,
            Thank you for your continuing assistance. As of November 21, there is no more information to be gathered. As of now, I will not be receiving any current payments. Of course, I have a year left of my EPE, and things can change. So, the only thing I can expect is my back pay. I have no idea of the forthcoming amount. In addition, my back pay appears to extend from Aug 2006 to Dec 2014. So, another 60 days to wait. I’m going to my local office next month to check on my Part B status. I am set up for paper checks. Is there anything else I need to do other than wait?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Mark,

            I think you have it covered.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

      • Jasmine says:

        Dear Kay,
        I was wondering if it was possible for you to shed some light as to why the social security office has not released my son’s last back pay installment. I filled out the paper work that tbey needed me to fill out and was told that if his worker for anything wrong with it, she would give me a call. That was back in August. I have made several calls to the 800 and local office but every time I call her extension, it always goes to voicemail. When I call and ask for her, they always say that she is not available. What should I do or what can I do to get them to release it?

        Sincerely,
        Jasmine

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Jasmine,

          If possible, visit the local Social Security office and ask to speak to the supervisor.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

        • PEOPLE WORKS FOR YEARS PAY INTO SOCIAL SECURITY BECOME DISABLE LOSE EVERY THING THEY HAVE HOMES CARS ECT AND IT APPEARS NONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS SYSTEM APPEAR TO Care. iKNOW THEY HAVE A LARGE CASE LOAD WHY THE S/S DO NOT HIRE MORE IF A PERSON HAS WORKED FOR YEARS AND PAYED INTO THE SYSTEM THAT STAND TO REASON THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO GET THIS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO WORK THEIRS CLAIMS SHOULD HAVE SOME PRIORITY.SOMETHING IS TERRIBLE WRONG WITH THIS SSA SYSTEM IT NEED REVISING NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM THAT TOOK THEY MONEY OUT OF THEIR CHECK BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT IT AND NOW THEY ARE DISABLE YOU TAKE YOUR OWN TIME AND THEY LOSE EVERY THING BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT CARE.OUR STATE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD REVISE THIS NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR YEARS .WE SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WARS IN OTHER COUNTRIES YET THE DISABLE ARE LOSING GETTING PUT OUT DOORS FORECLOSURES IS THIS FAIR TO US AS AMERICAN CITIZENS?THIS SHOULD AT THE MOST TAKE NO MORE THAN A FEW MONTH. INSTEAD OF YEARS.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Barbara,

            I suggest you take action on your own suggestion and contact your senator and congressperson to request funding be made available to hire additional Social Security and DDS staff. (The DDS employees are state employees but Social Security contracts with the state.)

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  76. Angela says:

    I was approved for disability in April of this year & received my first monthly payment in May. I was denied for SSI & do not have a workmans comp claim. I still have not received the back pay and it has almost been 6 months since the first payment. I have followed up with them regularly & keep getting told that there is no reason why it should not have been processed & released by now & that my claim has been escalated as high as it can be & still no progress. This last conversation in regards to it I was told that they had until November 4th to release the payment & here we are on the 9th & still nothing. I have tried contacting my local worker but all I get is her voicemail & she does not return calls. I am at a loss on what to do. They also told me that I am considered dire need so I dont know what to do, I would appreciate any advice or insight you can provide. I have put in a call to my lawyers office to have them look into it as well as that is my last resort. I was approved for back pay to March of 2011 but was told that they are withholding the 1st year so I would only get from March 2012, I dont understand that either but t this point if I cant event get what they have said that I am entitled to there is no point in trying to understand what they are withholding. Thank you for your time. I hope you have a wonderful day.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Angela,

      I suggest that you contact your congressperson’s office and ask them to make an inquiry into the release of the back benefits, which has been pending too long.

      I don’t have enough information to say anything definite about when benefits should begin to accrue, but the general regulation is that benefits begin to accrue the later of twelve months before your initial application or the sixth full calendar month of disability.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  77. edith says:

    I have been approved since June of 2015 for ssi and disablity. I received my first installment of my back pay from ssi but nothing yet from disablity back pay. I know my local office says the offset has been done and it is at the payment center. When should I receive the rest of my backpay for ssi ? I was getting 550.00 and now they cut me down to 173.50. I do not understand why they done this either.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Edith,

      You need to ask Social Security why your SSI went down. It may be because you are going to receive your first Social Security monthly benefit payment. If that is the case, you can expect to get your Social Security back pay, reduced by SSI paid for the same period, to be paid in one to three months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Brandy Boutte says:

        Hello,
        My son’s disability has finally been approved. I’m owed retroactive pay from December of 2014. I have already been to the office for my interview after my approval. I just recieved my son’s first check and his award letter how long should it take for his retroactive lay to come in I have also been told the amount to to my son.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Brandy,

          If your son is was approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the first installment of the back pay should be released within a week or two. If he was approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI), it can take up to two months after the first monthly payment for back pay to be released.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • KHolliday says:

            I’ve received to months worth of monthly SSDI payments but still have not received any of the back pay

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear K.,

            If you have not received your back pay within another month, ask your local office to follow up to be sure that it is in queque for processing.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  78. JULIE says:

    My husband was approved for SSD, and is receiving monthly checks but still waiting for back pay. At a meeting with SS this week he was given the form SSA-1372 for my daughter (his step) that graduated last year. He was told to do this because it affects his back pay. The school refuses to complete because she is not currently a student. What do we do?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Julie,

      If your daughter was a student in the month she turned eighteen and/or after, recontact the school and ask them to fill in the form for the period of time she was a student and to show he last date she attended school. Explain that the statement is not for current benefits but for benefits for the period of time she was in school. If she stopped school before her eighteenth birthday month, there is no need to have the form completed.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  79. Michael Millevolte says:

    I was approved for SSI and SSDI benefits a year ago. The lawyers where paid out in 10/14. I have been receiving my monthly payments since then. It has now been a year and I still have not received my SSI back pay. I have called once a week for updates for months now and they keep telling me everything is approved and I should be getting the funds any day now. They have been saying that since 5/14. The back pay amount owed to me is in in the upper 5 figures. Its been maddening waiting for this benefit as I need the funds for new housing and a chance to move into a more permanent residence. Do I need to contact my lawyer again to get to the bottom of this?

    • Michael Millevolte says:

      Sorry I meant my back SSDI has been in limbo now for a year since my first monthly benefit payment.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michael,

      It is unlikely that your attorney will assist; usually attorneys deal only with the medical decision. You might try contacting your congressperson’s office and ask that they contact the payment center that is responsible for releasing the funds. Also, you might ask the local office to check to be sure that the payment center knows that everything related to your SSI claim has been completed. (Note: Your Social Security back pay will be reduced by the amount of SSI you received for the same period.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Michael Millevolte says:

        Thank you for the prompt response Kay! I contacted my congressmen’s office and they said they would get the ball rolling for me. I surely hope so. Waiting for over a year has been depressing so say the least.

  80. Jark Mann says:

    Hello

    Maybe someone can give me an honest answer. I was given an Awards Letter in June 24th. I won my disability case. I have been paid my disability checks now for 4 months, but still I have not received my back-pay check. Each time I call the dreaded SSA they give me a new story. In fact I believe they are scripted. One lady said I would get my check on or before Sept 26th, 2015. All lies! I recently wrote my Senator Dianne Feinstein and asked for her assistance. Can I maybe hire a Collection company to go after the SSA? Perhaps sue them? Any advice?

    Thank you!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jark,

      It usually takes two months after monthly checks start to get back pay, but it can take longer. The only suggestion I have is to ask the local office to check to be sure that the payment center knows that either you do not have an Supplemental Security Income (SSI) claim or that it has been paid.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  81. Kit says:

    My Wife was approved for SSDI, we went into our local office and sent in the application for me to be her payee and also signed to not seek SSI. The office clerk sent my wife’s info to the processing center. Is it possible that the back pay can be directly deposited? Also is there any way to check on the processing centers end of things?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kit,

      The first payment will be a monthly payment. When you get the first payment, it will show you as payee on the check. At that time you can set up a bank account for future payments to be direct deposited. Take the routing number and account number to Social Security as soon as the account is set up. The local office can follow-up to the payment center in thirty days if you ask them to.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  82. Jimmy Scott says:

    I was approved for disability August 27 2015 at my hearing and it’s now Oct and I haven’t even received a regular monthly check back pay or anything when I call social security they say its pending I even called the ODAR office and was told it has to be written up and the Judge need to sign it and this still hasn’t been done. What is really going on I read some of these stories and most got there regular checks the month after there hearing why are they holding mine up??? Is it that Alabama is slow or what???? Gezzzz!!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jimmy,

      No one gets paid on a hearing approval until the decision letter has been written, signed, and mailed. Then how long it takes to get payment after that depends on local workloads and whether the approval is for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which is handled by the local office or for Social Security Disability (SSDI), which is paid from a central payment center. Usually the latter takes longer.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • michele gould says:

        Hi Kay been reading a lot about trying to get my frist check my question is they have sent my sign paper work from the judge on the 10/5/15 when should I be getting a check?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Michele,

          If your claim was for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) it will likely be within a month to six weeks. If it was for Social Security Disability (SSDI) it will probably be closer to two to three months. If the claim was for both SSI and SSDI, SSI will be paid first and typically Social Security takes a couple more months after that.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • michele gould says:

            as far as i understand it will just be ssd. I was just hoping to get the awards letter would help. to understand things

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Michele,

            Very often the award letter is issued at the time of the payment and actually arrives after the first payment.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Shamika says:

            Hello

            I think I have received back pay for my son. But when will monthly payments start?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Shamika,

            Usually monthly benefits start before back pay. If your son is eligible for ongoing benefits, they should start within a month.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  83. Melissa says:

    If you get SSI and SSDI can you still have money coming from your back pay both of them, can you barrow money if its an emergency and my electric bill is 1,211 and they gave me a disconnect notice can i get them to help him cause i need the money fast cause i have 7 kids and they want to turn my lights off so its an emergency.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Melissa,

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay is paid before Social Security Disability (SSDI) monthly benefits and back pay are paid. The SSDI back pay will be reduced by the amount of SSI back pay you receive for the same months.

      You cannot borrow or get an advance against your SSDI. If you are not yet receiving monthly SSI benefits, you may be able to get an emergency advance payment of up to $733 in SSI benefits, which will be withheld from future benefits. To request the emergency advance pay, go to your local office and take you shut off notice and bill that shows the amount you owe. If you are already getting SSI but have not gotten all your SSI back pay, go to Social Security with the shut-off notice and bill and request release of enough of your back pay to pay the electric bill.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • fonda says:

        Approximately how long after ssi backpay has been paid will my ssdi start. I recieved my ssi backpay around the7Th of October. I appreciate your advice thanks

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Fonda,

          It is usually one to two months after your SSI starts that the Social Security Disability (SSDI) monthly benefits begin. SSDI back pay is paid after the SSDI monthly benefits begin.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • april says:

      Hello I was approved for ssi on 8/13/2015. I have not received any payment and when I call my worker said he completed everything but when he tries to put it pay stautes,the system gives him an error message and want put it through. It’s going on a month with no monthly payment or notices.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear April,

        I suggest that you call again and ask your claims representative to get assistance from a supervisor or technical specialist to resolve the error message. If after that you have not gotten payment in ten days, go to the Social Security office if you can or call and ask to speak to a supervisor.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Chris says:

      Hey I received 2199 n April for my first back pay will I receive my second backpay next month since it will be my 6th month mark

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Chris,

        The next payment will be in six months.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Nicole says:

          Do they release the backpay anytime in the month that you’re up at your six months or is there select dates and what happens if you do not get it in the six months

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Nicole,

            Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay is paid in six-month installments if the amount due is more than $2,199. The installments can be paid any time in the sixth month. If you do not receive by the end of the sixth month, follow up with your local office to request release.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Brian says:

      I was approved for ssi on August 26 2015.I have been told by ssa that my onset date is March 2012.I have lived with my parents the entire time and have a written agreement to pay them back from 2011 in rent 500 a month rent.ssa says by back pay will be 488 a month.I don’t understand why the back pay is not 733 a month.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Brian,

        I assume that you have submitted the written agreement to repay. If it was signed in 2011, then it should be treated as a bonafide loan and not counted as income. Try discussing this with the claims representative again. If the final formal decision as reflected in the award letter is to reduce your benefit to $488, I suggest that you appeal.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  84. steven says:

    hi,everyone I,m disable and was approved for SSDI about 12 years ago and they said I can only get 1200 a month because I was getting workers comp 2,000 a month but 10 years ago workers comp reduce my 15 days checks to permanent and stationary to amount of 170 per week,SSDI said that 1200,00 was offset because I was getting 2,000 from workers comp,so now that I was only getting 340,00 every two from workers comp instead 1,000 every two weeks, shouldn,t my SSDI go higher to the maxium I should get,and should I be getting my back pay from the last 10 years of SSDI,thank you for any info. on this matter.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Steven,

      For your Social Security Disability (SSDI) to be increased you need to report the change in workers compensation (WC) payments to Social Security. When you do so, provide a copy of the WC paper work that shows when the $1,000 changed to $340.00 every two weeks. I do not know whether you will get an adjustment all the way back ten years. There may be a limit to how far back the recalculation will go prior to the time you report the change.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • allison says:

      I was denied twice before.I had a cervical/ spinal fusion (3 herniated discs). Spent a year crawling because of severe sciatica and then had a 2 nd back surgery.I also have ulcerative colitis, and face one more surgery in a few years.I hired an attorney.I was finally accepted.I get ssi $369.00 and ssdi $718.00. However, I received a back payment check first in july 2015 and then august 1st and 3 rd, my other checks.I just received a letter stating that Oct1st my $718.00 is dropping to $349.00 a month.I dont get why?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Allison,

        Social Security payments decrease only rarely and for very few reasons. I wonder if you have the two amounts reversed; that is, is the $369 Social Security Disability (SSDI) and the $718 (now $349) the Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which can change in amount every month if you have income changes. I suggest that you look at the top of the letter that notified you of the reduction to see which benefit it refers to. Also, the letter should tell you the reason for the decrease. If you can’t figure it out after rereading it, you can send me exactly what it says and I will try to interpret it.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Thaddeus Powell says:

          I was awarded by judge to receive my disability back in May, 2015. I started getting my disability checks in June, 2015. My back pay dates all the way back to June, 2012, I have not received my back pay as of yet, it has been 4 months and I am owed a great deal of back pay. I need my back pay because waiting 3 years to receive my disability has set me back financially. How long is the legal waiting period for receiving back pay. Also do they owe me interest on my back pay. If I owed them they would charge me interest, just wondering. Do you know who I need to contact directly to get my back pay. I live in Texas. Thanks for your help. I will be checking my email for your answer(s).

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Thaddeus,

            I hope you check this website again because I do not respond via email.

            There is no provision for you to talk or otherwise communicate directly with the payment center; and, while there are guidelines, there is no “law” governing how long it takes for payment to start. I suggest asking the local Social Security office to send a follow-up memo, although it may not help much.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Albert parr says:

      Hi all,

      Wow, sounds like we arent the only ones going through this. I was injured overseas in FEB 2014, I was advised that being in the AD Army WTU (wounded care program for US Army) that I qualified for SSDI and because I was an Active Duty Service member everything would be expedited.. haha, ya not so much.

      We were denied twice, the first time SSA stated I was not disabled by their definitions, I appealed and sent them a copy of their own pamphlet that they are to reference. They replied with an apology and another denial stating I was fully disabled by their definition but I could work anywhere because I have at least a HS diploma..

      (I have an upper and lower spinal cord injury and a TBI)

      I called my POC at the SSA and asked, would it matter if I had a fellowship in Nuclear Science if im fully disabled by their definition? Her reply was to appeal with a lawyer.

      We went to court in JUNE 2015 and had my case heard, overall my case was not expedited in the application process, however, I did only wait about 6 months to have a hearing.

      The judge ruled fully favorable.

      A very slow process to receive the first check, timeline..
      March 2014 Applied
      June 2014 denied/Appeal
      Sept 2014 denied/Appeal
      June 2015 Appeal Hearing w/lawyer
      July 2015 Award letter
      August 2015 Explanation letter
      September 2015 First Check deposited
      ???? Awaiting back pay

      We did drive to the local office and they were extremely nice and willing to answer questions. The back log and delay in care is because people will file for benefits for a in-grown toe nail, a broken arm, etc..

      The woman was literally in tears explaining this to me. The folks at the offices try to shuffle through the claims and find the people like everyone in this thread, the people that actually need it as they get back logged having to follow the same steps with everyone.

      You can see this for yourself if you go to a local SSA office, always somebody their with a walking assistance device (Cane/walker) and it is clear they dont need it, we even saw one lady use it the entire time inside and when we were leaving she had it on her arm and threw it in her trunk.. of a extremely nice BMW..

      So we are being patient on back pay, we are trying to find other programs that can assist to make ends meet, and we are trying to remain conscious of the fact that other folks have been waiting much longer.

      Ill add a date for back pay when we get it so the full time table is their as a reference for anyone else looking for information.

      Wish you all the best of luck, and before i forget, look into easter seals and programs of its likeness for assistance.

    • James m says:

      Wow thank you so much for taking the time to answer the same ? Over and over.. I am in the same boat with being approved on August 4th with a full favorable with on set date of 03/2012 and now just going crazy waiting for my first check I know from reading all the post it may take 6 months to get back pay but if I can get award letter my local union will pay me 400 a month back pay for disability pension ((( I know it sounds like chump change but I will get this before my back pay from SSD and its all we get if disabled before retirement)))) I am an union tradesmen for almost 25 yrs before I was injured,I wish I could blink my eyes and be healed and able to just wake up and go to work I loved my job and miss it every day.. Well again thank you so much for taking the time with this page it helped me a ton just reading all the post…. Your awesome

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear James,

        I am glad the site has been helpful to you. You might try using your letter from the judge to get the union to release the disability pension.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  85. Russ Boyles says:

    Hello, I have a question with SSDI backpay and SSI benefits. I got fully approved in May 2015 for SSDI along with almost 4 years of backpay, and got approved for only a couple months of SSI (i was only eligible for 3 months SSI in 2013). I recieved my first SSDI monthly payment in June and also recieved my entire SSI payment. For my August SSDI payment they finally took out what they gave me before for SSI… Ive still been waiting on my SSDI backpay, and I know that youve said it normally takes 2-3 months from when i recieve monthly benefits, so do I still expect it to arrive 2-3 months from my first SSDI monthly payment (June 2nd) or should i expect it to be 2-3 months from now (Aug. 2nd)? I have alot of family I owe money too so Im just getting antsy…

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Russ,

      Usually the SSI offset is taken out of the back pay so I am surprised it came out of a monthly benefit. That said, I would expect you to get the back pay fairly soon–say a couple weeks–given that the offset has been taken care of. However, if you have a fairly high benefit, the four years of SSDI back pay could be large enough that it requires extra authorization.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Russ Boyles says:

        Thank you for the quick reply. Is it very unusual for the offset to come out of a monthly payment? Id never heard of it either and Ive been wondering if its something I should be worried about, if its something I should the local SSA office about? Thank you again for your help.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Russ,

          Yes, it is unusual to have the offset come out of the monthly benefit. If you don’t get clarifying letters within about a week, I would ask the local office for an explanation of the payments because I am just taking my best guess at what might be happening.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • misty says:

            Hi, my husband was awarded fully favourable in may,2015 he received his 1st SSDI check in june & has received his monthly checks since.we were told today that his back pay check was processed last thrusday and it takes 6 weeks after being processed. Is this true?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Misty,

            I have not heard of that particular scenario with that time frame before. If the back pay is a very large amount, perhaps it has to be signed off on by a second person thus causing a delay.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Marcella moore says:

      I was approved for disability .in April 2015. Recieved my first monthly benefit check may 2015. Still waiting for my back pay . I call every day . Say it’s at the payment. Center and that there just waiting for someone there to give the ok to process and release. I’m still am gonna call every day . I just received my 3rd monthly check . Wth

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Marcella,

        There is no point in calling every day. The local office has no control over when your back pay will be released and can follow up to the payment center for your back pay only once every thirty days

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Carline says:

      I was given favorable awarded in June of 2015 I don’t owe anyone no ssi no workers compensation not even my attorney the fee was waved still the process center will not release my back payment they owe from 2011 thru present I have been dealing with my local office and the processing center won’t even communicate with them so what can we do there excuse is there calculations are off if this is what you do all day how many times can you mess up HELP

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Carline,

        At this point, all you can do is wait.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

        • Randi Wilson says:

          My name is Randi and my case is very similar to this one.
          I won 11/14, received 1st payment 4/15. My backpay, what year was back six years has been at a payment center since March 2015 my money has yet to be released I even have our Ca congressional representative Steve Knight trying to help me and even he has been unable to get my money released or get any valid reason as to why.
          I find it hard to believe that this situation can continue but in 3 months it will be 1 year since I won. I am waiting for this money to have a much needed surgery.
          What is the longest time that you know of that someone has waited?
          Thank u for your time

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Randi,

            I do not know the longest time a person has had to wait for back pay to be released. If the payment is very large (which it may be given that it goes back six years), it will require review and approval by two different people, the regular authorizer and a superior.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Randi Wilson says:

            Well, this is Randi again and in 5 weeks it will be 1 year that I have been waiting for my SSDI backpay.

            Any thoughts?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Randi,

            I suggest contacting your congressperson’s office and ask them to look into the delay.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  86. Tricia says:

    Is there any way I can receive my back pay I’m on ssi early I’m supposed to be getting it at the end of this month I think I have no ride and no place to live sleeping on couch in a living room please help

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tricia,

      You can apply for an emergency advance payment of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) based on being homeless if you have received no payments as yet. It will not be the full back pay. If you can’t get to an office, try calling your local office to make the request.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Kelly says:

        Can I check online to see the reaason my nine year old benefits were stopped?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Kelly,

          You should have received a termination letter regarding your child’s benefits stopping. You will not be able to get the information online. You might find out by calling 1-800-772-1213. If they cannot help, then go to your local office. You do need to know the reason in order to find out whether you should appeal. You have sixty days to appeal from the date you are notified.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  87. Cat Stewart says:

    My husband has became disabled in September of 2013. I had tries to apply for SSID on our own and was denied 3 Times before My husband attempted to return to business, after less then 3 month of working he become extremely ill and was hospitalized. At that point I contacted an attorney to help with our claim. The attorney file for September 2013, but when approved social security only went back to November of 2014, is it worth appealing the onset date? Also we have 2 minor children in our home I have been told I can apply for them to recieve benefits aa well, will the children recieve back benefits from the date their dad was determine disabled and could I file for them ourselves or should I allow the attorney to handle that part of the process as well.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cat,

      Your husband will have to decide whether or not to appeal to try to receive an thirteen months of back benefits. I suggest that he discuss the matter with his attorney. You can apply for the children yourself; it is a simple, routine-type application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • angela says:

        my first ssdi check will come on August 12 Iwant receive ssi how long before I receive my back pay

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Angela,

          Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay typically is paid a couple months after monthly benefits start. Also, typically Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits are paid before SSDI benefits, so I am wondering whether you did not qualify financially for SSI, which has an income and asset limit. I suggest that you discuss SSI with your local Social Security office to find out whether you already applied for or were screened for SSI.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • angela says:

            I didn’t qualify for ssi

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Angela,

            In that case your Social Security will be paid by the payment center. It can take two to three months to get payment started and back pay released.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  88. Michelle says:

    Dear Kaye I was approved for my disability on March 17th and received my first payment in June and My second in July, my attorney has already been paid their fee and I’m waiting on my back payment of 20k. They’ve already received notice that I will not be getting ssi already and I’ve forwarded them my formal eviction notice along with the rest of my past due bills and still nothing. The gentleman that did the ssi review said I should have already received the back payment but no one else can seem to give me an answer as to what’s going on. My attorney has also spoken to the ss supervisor and they sent a request for immediate release of payment due to my circumstances could you shed some lite on how much longer you think i’ll have to wait please. Thank You, Michelle

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michelle,

      Your local office has no control over when the payment center will release the funds. Delays are due principally to backlogs of work and the claims are processed on a first in-first out basis with some consideration for dire need. However, many disabled people are in your position so even dire-need cases wait in line. While you wait, perhaps you could get a letter from the local office stating that back pay is due (they won’t say how much) so that you can prove to the landlord that you will have money coming in to catch up the rent.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  89. Robin barnes says:

    Hello, I applied for ssd 2/17/15 during this time I have been seeing my neurologist and testing has been ongoing. I have a ton of symtoms inculding headaches from a large spot of lesions on my white matter part of my brain,demyelinating disease, dpression, hand and arm tremors along with a bunch more. I guess the question is, do you think I will get approved without a dx of the white matter lesions. the dr thinks its CADASIL “Cerebral Autosomal-Dominant Arteriopathy with Subcortical Infarcts and Leukoencephalopathy ” and we know for sure its strokes. Im so worried and broke. I talked to the adjudicator a couple days ago and she said they are almost finished with my case but worrying is killing me. Thank you so much for your time, Robin

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robin,

      I can’t predict whether you will be approved, but I can say that the diagnosis does not matter as much as how limiting the symptoms are.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  90. Jeff says:

    Hi . My wife hearing was on 06/19 and she was given a favorable bench aproval, how long will it take for us t receive an award letter and benefits?
    Thanks in advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeff,

      The decision letter is supposed to be mailed within sixty days of the hearing, but sometimes it takes longer. Depending on whether your wife is approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI), it can take from a few weeks to two or three months or more to get payment started after receipt of the letter.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • dave james says:

      I was approved back in 2/2015 received my my letter with amount of $29000 in back pay.They paid the law firm that won my case. I have gotten monthly payments since march but no word on back payment. I have called many times but get the run around on who to talk. Its frustrating i need that money to build my Tiny Home
      anyone else waiting that long

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Dave,

        The local office can follow up to the central payment center, but it has no control over when the back pay will be released. Most back payments are made within three months of the monthly benefits starting. You can ask the local office to double check that the payment center is not waiting on SSI information.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

      • J.rodriguez says:

        I was approved in April. Received my first monthly payment in June was told I would see back payment funds in two weeks. Lawyer is paid it’s almost august and still waiting on backpay. I have heard every excuse in the book, and I think they have created a few more.

      • Suzette walker says:

        I was approved in January 2015, first payment April 2015 and still getting the run around about back pay. Local office told me oh your work comp benefits plus ssdi can equal up to 80%of wages when you were injured so no problem. The excuse at payment center 8months later, well you got work comp…..yeah and it’s really straight forward math…..they owe me about 1500.00 a month for 33 months…..

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Suzette,

          It is unlikely that you have calculated the amount you are owed correctly. Several factors go into determining your current average earnings of which 80% can be paid between workers comp and Social Security. It is not 80% of your last wages. Back payments without workers comp are often running two to three months after the first payment is released; those with workers comp longer, sometimes double the time. Note this is not a justification of the length of time payments pend, just a description of the situation. Also note that your local office has no control over when the payment will be released.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Suzette walker says:

            The local office gave me that estimate. He told me it would be around 50k and that they did use the wages I was earning the year. I had made those higher wages for 4outbof those last 5years. The figures I gave you are straight from the social security agent who entered my work comp earning at an hour and half appointment

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Suzette,

            The high amount of back pay may be resulting in the need for a second review–the first by the regular authorizer and another by a supervisor or other superior, thus slowing down payment even more.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Suzette walker says:

            Thank you….after reading all the posts, I see that there are more work comp/ social security situations than I imagined. We are waiting on the same few people to figure out all scenarios. I know they have to get the figures right the first time, because underpaying or overpaying would make like even more stressful…it’s not a matter of us asking where is our money because we are greedy, it’s a matter of working so hard our lives(even as young as I am I worked 30yrs straight) and getting hurt or otherwise unable to work is very stressful. It has been a very humbling experience, I went from being workaholic to not been able to walk down the street past the mailbox. I will keep the others in my thoughts and prayers and the workers also. We all have the same goal in mind, it’s just a process that is very frustrating, some of the agents have such creative ways to tell a person that their paperwork isn’t done. I was told in June that is was at the final stage of review where Medicare is taken out and attorney fees, I don’t have either of them coming out of back pay. Hold yours heads up fellow workers, if you are in a really bad place like the people with no home or about to lose your home, I pray for help of those situations. Others like me with trNsportaion breakdowns, or other issues I pray for rides until your funds are released.

  91. Robert Wilkinson says:

    I received my first back pay check for $2199 on Feb 11th 2015 can you tell me when my next or second check for back pay will be received? is it july or august im do over 6500.00 so just curious to know will it come in on july 11 or august 11th

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robert,

      Your next Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay is due in August 2015, six months after the first payment. If you do not receive it by the end of August, I suggest following up with your local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Charlene says:

        Kay,
        I received my first back pay check on March 23rd, so will the second one come the 23rd of September or will it be the first of the month with my regular payment? Thanks.

        Charlene

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Charlene,

          The second back payment will be paid sometime in September separately from your monthly payment. If you don’t receive it by the end of September, follow up with your local office.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Stephanie says:

            I got my back payment in dec.16,2014 it is now July 18,2015 I still have not recieve anything. I have called the local office many time and they have not done nothing about it but told me to wait. I’m still wondoring when my second payment comin in.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Stephanie,

            I assume from the information you provided that you were approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI). My response is based on that assumption.

            Apparently, the office is backlogged in their work. If you have not received the payment by the first of August, I suggest going to the office and asking to speak to a supervisor about the delay. (If you are eligible for ongoing monthly benefits, you should be receiving them even though the second installment of back pay is delayed. If you are not eligible for ongoing SSI payments, then all the remainder of the back pay owed should be paid in a single payment.)

            Sincerely,
            Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Bill,

      This site is not set up for chatting between visitors, so if Bill responds, his response will not be posted. It can take one to three months for payment to be calculated and an award letter sent. The first payment may be deposited to your account, if you signed up for direct deposit, before you get the letter.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  92. janey says:

    My husband is 100% permanently and totally disabled through the VA and he was approved in Jan for SSD (I believe). SS says the date of onset of his disability was in Jan because that is when he was approved through the VA, but the onset of this was longer ago than that….can we appeal that some way? Also, there is the 5 month waiting period. He will get his first check in Aug and we were told her would not receive any back pay. I have talked to several people who received back pay for the 5 month waiting period, is that possible?

    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Janey,

      No Social Security Disability (SSDI) payment is made for the first five full-calendar months of disability. There is only one exception and that is if the person previously received SSDI and became disabled again within five years of the first period of eligibility ending. Your husband can appeal the established date of disability. He needs to submit medical records or other proofs that show, due to his condition, he was unable to work and earn at least $1,090 gross per month ($1,070 in 2014). Before appealing, it could be helpful to obtain a copy of his claim file to see the exact reasons for why the claim was approved with a January 2015 onset.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • samd619 says:

        Hi Kay,
        My husband was told the same thing about no backpay. He applied for SSDI on 3/2015 he got approved for on 6/3/2015. We received an award letter stating that he is disabled on 3/14/2015. We called SS and they said we have a 5 months waiting period before he gets his first monthly paycheck in Oct which I understand, but I don’t why he won’t,get the backpay from when he became disabled from 3/14/2015. Other people we spoke to that has only SSDI received backpay.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sam,

          The first five full-calendar months of disability are unpaid. In your husband’s circumstances, April through August are unpaid. September benefits are paid in October. The only exception is for people who become disabled a second time within five years of the termination of their first period of disability benefits.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Pamela Guillory says:

            My husband was approved for SSDI on August 5, 2015 We filed in March 2015. He was told that he will not get back pay and we are confused since he applied for Disability July 2010 and was denied for the same illness that he was approved for in august 2015. Can we do anything about getting back pay?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Pamela,

            Your husband’s benefits will be based on his current claim because, apparently, he did not appeal the July 2010 claim. Benefits will begin to accrue the later of the sixth calendar month of disability based on the date of disability onset Social Security accepted and twelve months before the current application, that is, March 2014.

            Sincerely, Kay

  93. Mike says:

    I was awarded SSD and received my first payment 6/2015. I will be getting back pay for approx 3 years which I was told amounts to close to 70k. How long will it take to receive all of the back pay and how much/ how long?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mike,

      I have no information about the amount of your back pay. It will probably be August or September before you receive it or maybe longer. The large amount owed may be high enough that it will require two reviews and approvals before it is released.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • henrietta goodson says:

        if my daughter is approve this time her ssi back payment will come instillments but will she get the back pay off me at one time. and can she get medicare with her benefits along with medicaid.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Henrietta,

          If your daughter receives benefits on your earnings record, her back pay will come in a single payment. She will become eligible for Medicare after she has received twenty-four months of disability benefits on your record.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Jennifer says:

      Hi, my dad finally after 5 years got approved for ssd. He received his first letter December 2014 stating he was approved and that he will be getting his first monthly check by Feb 2015. He also received a letter about his back pay that will come of 40k. He did receive his first check on February 2015. We are now in July why has he not received anything from his back pay? He keeps going to his local social security office and all they kept saying it should be here no later than late June. Well look at it we are now in July and nothing. We have contacted his lawyer and nithing . No phone call from him or nothing. What is our other option?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jennifer,

        It is typical that the attorney’s involvement ends with the medical approval. You can ask your local office to send a follow-up message to the payment center, but the local office has no control over how long it takes for the money to be released. Note that the very large amount may require two reviews and two approvals.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  94. Rick says:

    Social Security says my brother needs a payee to receive SSDI payments. He doe not want a payee and can handle his own finances. They want me to be the payee and I don’t wish to be. Is there away to not have to have a payee?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rick,

      If your brother is mentally, emotionally, and physically capable of regularly and reliably paying for his basic expenses of shelter, food, medical and dental care, clothing before spending money on other things, then he might talk with his physician. If the physician agrees, your brother could request that the doctor complete an SSA-787, which can be obtained online.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  95. daivd says:

    on my social security online account it says on 5/5 onetime payment was made by paper check (my back payments they owe me from the waiting time) how long will it take for me to receive that payment in the mail. it has been 4 days. is 5/5 the date it was mailed out or the date they processed the check.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear David,

      May 5 may be the day the payment was authorized and the authorization may have to go through multiple overnight computer runs before the check is actually printed and mailed. How long the mail will take depends where you live. If you have not received it by about the fifteenth, report non-receipt to your local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  96. John Hebert says:

    Hi. I was approved on April 3, 2015. I am owed 14 months of Disability back pay and a one time SSI payment according to the worker who processed my claim. My question is this: when will I receive the large -back pay amount? I was told by a local SS worker that it would be 7-10 days almost a month ago. I was told today by a different worker on the national 800 number it could be 2 more months. How can they get away with owing someone money for over a year, and when finally ordered to pay (in my case by administrative law judge) taking their sweet time to pay. I am 3 days from having my electricity cut off

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      The representative who told you seven to ten days was probably hoping to be able to get the processing of the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay done by then and hasn’t been able to get back to it. I suggest that you go to your local office and speak to the representative. Tell her about the electric bill and ask if she can complete the computer processing while she waits.

      Also contact the electric company and tell them that you are disabled. Some states have laws that utilities cannot be turned off on someone who is disabled. Tell them that you can show proof that you have been found disabled by the Social Security Administration and are awaiting release of benefits. Say that you will get a letter from the representative that says you are due a large back payment; then try to get that letter from the representative to show the power company that you will have enough funds to catch up your bill.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  97. Deirdra Pallone says:

    My son was approved for SSD, decision was made rather quickly. I spoke to a local Social Security worker as he processed my son’s claim for the back pay monies and monthly benefits. He touched base with me yesterday and said the case has been paid, but the computers were interfacing and it could take up to 3 business days before I receive payment? That to me doesn’t sound right? Also he was not able to tell me the amount he will receive monthly or in back pay? Please help, I am really struggling financially and fearing that I will not get my rent paid on the 1st. Thank you, Ms. Pallone

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Deirdra,

      Lag time for computer runs is quite possible. Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits are not authorized locally so if payment is in mid-processing, it is possible that the local representative cannot see payment amounts. (Your posting is a bit confusing to me because SSD would be paid to a disabled adult, but you talk about paying your rent. If you are your son’s payee and he is an adult, his funds should be used to pay only his share of rent, house utilities, and food.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  98. Jhemill Gordon says:

    I was Fully Favorable approved for Social Security on March 03, 2015 by Judge decision of Office of Disability Adjudication and Review SSA ODAR Hearing Ofice, and the decision is from January 3, 2012 as today.
    When i will get first check, maybe next month of May?

    Thanks in advance!!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jhemill,

      It can take two months or more for Social Security Disability (SSDI) to start so you might receive a first monthly payment in May. Back pay usually takes one to two months longer.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  99. Aby Torres says:

    The decision was made on April 9, 2015.

  100. Aby Torres says:

    Hi, i have a question. I was fully approved for SS.
    The letter said:
    Based on the aplication for a period of disability and disability insurance benefits protectively filed on August 8, 2012, the claimant has been disable under section 216(i) and 223(d) of the Social Security Act since January 9, 2012.
    When i received my first ck and the retroactive??

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Aby,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits will begin to accrue June 2012. If the letter was a judge’s decision and you did not also apply for for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), it will likely be one to two months before you receive the first month’s benefits and another couple months before you receive the back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  101. Sharese says:

    My son was approved to receive auxillary benefits from his dad and a nice lump sum of back pay. The rep I spoke with told me the back pay amount will be deposited into my account within 7 to 10 days. Just wondering is it really 7 to 10 days.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharese,

      Although time frames vary a great deal, in part related on how close the payment was to being issued when you applied to be payee for your child, at present there is no reason to question the time frame you were given.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  102. luis says:

    I FILED FOR DISABILTY IN NOV 2014 RECEIVED LETTER WAS APPROVED WILL GET FIRST CHECK IN JUNE 2015 WHEN WILL BACKPAY BE PAID HARD NO INCOME CANT WORK ON OXYGEN 24/7 IM 47 YEARS OLD WAS CURIOUS

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Luis,

      If you are eligible for Social Security Disability back pay (the first five full calendar months of disability are not paid), it can take two months or more after monthly benefits start to get the back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  103. Barb says:

    Hi,
    I have a quick question. My husband became disabled (no longer worked d/t moderate cognitive impairment) in 2011 at age 61. He took early retirement at 62. It took a while to diagnose, because symptoms were very similar to depression at first, but he was finally diagnosed with Picks Disease (early onset frontal temporal dementia) in Jan 2014. I applied for disability for him since he can no longer do things for himself. They found him disabled starting Jan 2014. He received retirement SS, $1,170 from Jan 2014 to Dec 2014, but on his statement it says he received disability for $1,385 for that time frame. He had no deductions. Since there is a difference of $215 that he didn’t receive that entire year would we receive backpay for it? I am just curious??? Thank you so very much!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Barb,

      Yes, your husband should receive the difference between the reduced retirement and the higher disability benefit for the months of overlapping eligibility. It can take two or three months after the monthly disability benefits start to have the back pay released.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Nicole says:

        Hi Kay, my child was recently approved for his ssi and the worker in the office told me that she was releasing payments for the last couple of months on today (4/10/15), and that my child’s back pay would be released tomorrow (4/11/15) which of course is a Saturday. Well, when I contacted the 800# they said that they don’t see anything reflecting funds being released. I even contacted the US Treasury, they mentioned the same thing. My bank also said they see nothing pending. They released the attorney fees yesterday (4/9/15) an he said his deposited this morning. So is it possible for funds to be deposited even if its not reflected in the system.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nicole,

          Releasing funds may actually take make more than a single over-night computer run in the Social Security and Treasury systems and more than a single run in the bank’s system. There are no bank runs on Saturday and Sunday and may be none in the government departments. I’d say to give it a week before following up.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  104. Sue says:

    Unlike most people I was fortunate and received my back pay for SSDI with no problems. (By the time I got my letter it was already in the bank.)I will begin receiving my monthly check in April.
    I was/am on Medicaid? I was wondering will I be kicked off of Medicaid now because the back pay check deposited in my checking account? Is is considered part of my income for this year? I do have Medicare but I have heard they don’t pay well.
    I will only be making around $700 a month and medicare is getting around $100 of that.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sue,

      Please clarify whether you also filed a claim and have received Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits. Also, it would be helpful to have the gross amount of your Social Security before withholding and whether or not you are married and living with a spouse who has income. Those bits of information will help me to comment on whether you are likely to continue to have Medicaid coverage.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  105. Susan says:

    I fought for my Disability for 5 years, I finally got approved the first week of October. I finally started receiving monthly pymts in February, though I am thankful for this, I have yet to get my back pay and it has been 6 months nearly. Is there a maximum time limit they have to pay back pay. my wedding is next month and I think we are going to be forced to reschedule it because we never dreamed it would take this long to get the back pay when we set our date.

    Thank You for any information you are able to give me.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Susan,

      Social Security has time guidelines for processing; however, the reality of heavy workloads caused by understaffing results in the time frames not always being met. It can take another two to three months to receive the back pay after the monthly benefits start, especially if you are due a large amount of benefits for five years.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  106. Vicky says:

    Hello, Can someone help me with a few questions? First I applied for disabilty in October 2013 then I reapplied in February of 2014 I was just approved a few weeks back,and on my papers the judge said I was disabled since December 31 of 2012 I was unable to work from that date. How do they do back payments? I understand they only go back for a year,but I wasn’t sure why he went back so far. Also my daughter turn 19 this past December will she get any back pay? Thank you,Vicky

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Vicky,

      The judge determines the date your disability began independently of the date you applied. Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits begin the later of the sixth full calendar month of disability or twelve months prior to the date of application. Therefore, your benefits will begin to accrue May 2013.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  107. D Schrader says:

    Hi, I was awarded in May 2014, and have been receiving monthly benefits, but am still waiting and fighting constantly for my back pay of $41,000. Apparently they say that I checked a box on the application form for “this is a work related injury” (which it was not work related – and the SSDI/SSI form was filled out by an outreach worker at DSHS who may have made the mistake.) In any case, they are telling me that ‘I was receiving workers comp for state disability’ ( which I never did) and need documentation of the amount before they can pay me back pay. I cannot provide any documentation since there wasn’t any! I have wrote letters explaining there isn’t workers comp involved, I’ve talked to customer service, and went down in person to SSA and they all say that “the info has been put through.” I’ts now going on a year and I still haven’t received any back pay, and my payments are being garnished by the IRS for owing back taxes – and I really need the money to pay them due to the interest…..

    To make things worse; I just received a 1099 from SSA stating that “I DID” receive my backpay this year in 2014 (and it was deducted immediately for workers comp offset of $32,000) and $7,200 was paid to my lawyer, leaving me nothing…except I have to pay taxes on this now, when I didn’t even receive anything.
    1. How can they deduct $32,000 for something they don’t even have an amount for – since I don’t owe Workers comp??
    2. My lawyer says they never received payment of $7,200 either, as the 1099 states they did. On top of that, my lawyer’s contract was for a max of $6,000 as per stated law, which they also agree on since last we spoke this month.

    I feel like this is fraud! And I don’t know what to do. SSA reps tell me that they cannot speak directly to the payment processing center, nor can I call them directly…and that I have to just wait and “hope” they correct the amounts…. How can this be? I know I can’t be the first person that’s had this issue… and why can’t they just verify through workers comp that I have never had a claim? I was homeless for years during this whole application process, never receiving any money from the state except food stamps. And my lawyer is absolutely no help when I call them now, since the case has already been awarded technically. They said they would call the processing center last week, but I haven’t heard anything back at all. I expected them to be more helpful since they still need their payment for the case.

    Please help direct me on the route I need to take to get this corrected. I’m so buried in tax and interest for my all hospital debt, I really need to get this resolved. Thank you in advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dave,

      Contact your state’s workers compensation bureau and get a letter that you have never received workers compensation. Try filing a request for reconsideration of the calculation of your back pay. In a sense the 1099 is a formal determination of how the claim was calculated, so you should be able to file an appeal; in fact, technically, they cannot keep your from filing an appeal State in the appeal that you have not gotten workers comp and that you are submitting a letter from the workers comp office to prove that and that you want your full back pay released. As part of your appeal, request that a corrected 1099-SSA be issued, showing only the monthly benefits paid, which will probably be the gross amount before the withholding for your tax debt. Keep a copy of everything you submit. All of this will likely go to the payment center, but at least you will be in the appeals system, and if they don’t get it corrected properly and send another incorrect determination as a response to your appeal, you can request a hearing.

      As far as attorney fees go, $6,000 is the maximum per benefit obtained. If you received any Supplemental Security Income (SSI) before the Social Security started or dependent benefits were awarded for your children, the total amount for all benefits awarded could be higher than $6,000.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Cory says:

        I too received a letter from ss saying my back pay was on hold for workers comp benefits. I contacted my local office and they pulled up nothing all the way back to 2001. My attorney along with ss sent me paperwork to fill out saying I have never filed. I’m still waiting for backpay as well. Fully favorable later part of March 2015, June 3rd 2015 award letter. First monthly will be July 22, 2015, is it possible to get first month and back pay at the same time?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Cory,

          Typically Social Security Disability back pay is paid one to three months after the first monthly payment; however, it varies.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  108. roger says:

    Thank Go Got My Fully Favorable Letter and then someone called from Missouri to get me set up on payments the same day! Good Luck to everyone i know it’s a Difficult process but the end line fight for whats yours! God Bless Everyone! And Kay Thank you For everything!

  109. veronica bolyard says:

    I have been getting the run around from SSI for the last 4 weeks about my sons final back payment that was due January. I was told multiple things. First, I was told that I should get a letter and have his final back payment by the end of the month. I then was advised that it could be 45 days from the end of January. I could not understand how that was true when he already receive his first back payment January 2013, then his second in July 2013 without any issues. I finally called the local office and obtained his caseworkers name, we moved from Pa to Md in August and I was never advised who his new caseworker was. Then I called and left her a message, because actually speaking with her seems near impossible. I did not receive a call back and called again. At that time the rep told me she was working the front desk taking new applicants. Of course I am extremely frustrated. How can she take new applicants, yet can not even process her own caseload?!?! The rep advised to give her until she get off the front desk and hopefully she could call me back. I did not recieve a call back, again. It is now February and my sons back payment has yet to even be acknowledge via a letter, a call and not depoisted in his account. I even attempted to call my sons lawyer for advice, but have not got a call back. I dont know what I should do, but I need to get numerous things for my son who I support on my own and I just recently got a job at our new location. We are trying to get his own room together to transition him to sleep in his own bed and we have a service dog set up for him. We did it under the impression that his back payment would be on time, but now we are finding otherwise. There are other things for education that we have on our list for him, that the back money will be going to as well. What should I do? I am afraid if I throw to big of a fuss they will just make us wait longer and we need to have the money for his service dog and things ordered for his room within the next two weeks. Pleas any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Veronica,

      No one asking to file a new claim can be turned away and approved, unpaid claims are paid before time is allocated for back payments. That said, I suggest that, if possible, you go to the Social Security office and explain the situation of needing the money by the end of the two weeks to pay for the rest of the things that are part of your son’s treatment plan. Ask to have the back payment released while you wait. (The person you speak to is probably not the person who has to do it.) If you are told no, ask to speak to a supervisor and explain that same things over again on why you need the money by a certain time.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  110. Brenda says:

    I was approved for Disability in Dec 2014 with Retro to June 19 2012 filing date of Nov 2012. I started receiving my monthly benefit for Dec 2014 in Jan 2015. My question is this:
    During the time I was waiting for my hearing for ALJ, I applied for public assistance. I was aware that if my Disability claim was approved I would owe Public Assistance (NYC) monies and they would take it from the back pay/retro that I would receive. How long does this process usually take approximately?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Brenda,

      You will repay public assistance if you are approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay; it will not be withheld from Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits. It can take a month to two months to get the SSI back pay issued and another one to three months to get Social Security back pay, which will be reduced by SSI back benefits paid for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  111. Pedro Labarta says:

    kay i went to my hearing on 10/27/2014 and it was a favorable decision but i still havent gotten my backpay yet and no award letter my attorney said to give it 60 or 90 days for it is that true.

  112. Elissa Ray says:

    I was awarded my SSD in September of 2014. I received my award letter stating what my monthly payments were going to be and that I was awarded benefits back to my original filing date of 2010. Of course, they took my lawyers fees off the top of my back due benefits. So I received a letter from my attorney that my file now will be closed. That’s great because now I am here on my own trying to get my back due benefits. I have received my monthly checks but when I call about back due benefits I have been told not to call back that it is with the processing center and don’t bother going to my local office because there is nothing they can do about it. What gives I can’t work and it’s a lot of money. They can’t even give me an estimate when it may be processed. If anyone has any ideas on what I can do I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elisa,

      Attorneys are not involved after the medical approval is obtained. It typically takes three months or more after Social Security monthly benefits start to get the back pay. If you have a fairly large monthly benefit, your total back pay for approximately four years could be large enough that it will require more than one authorization to release it and more time will be involved. The local office can send a follow-up memo to the payment center, but it won’t speed anything up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  113. Rita Dahnert says:

    I have been approved to receive SSDI since Nov 2009 and have been waiting for my backpay for 3 months now. I have contacted social security and all they say is “its being worked on”. How much longer do I have to wait? I have bills that need to be taken care of.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rita,

      It can take three months after monthly benefits start to get your back pay. The Payment Center is very backed up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  114. roger says:

    Hi kay just called odar and they said my case is in editing? How long do you think it will before i hear something?

  115. Maria G. says:

    hi there

    i was resently aproved for back pay. i went to an appointment and they said i was granted some money. how long after my appointment should i expect a check in the mail?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Maria,

      Social Security benefits can take three months or more to start. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) usually runs one to three months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  116. roger says:

    hi kay been over 30 days with decision writer why does it take so long???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      Pretty much every step of the claim and appeals process has backlogs due to under-staffing.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  117. Frustrated says:

    My husband passed away from an agressive cancer that qualified him for expedited processing of his claim. He submitted his claim for SSD 10/1/14, he died 10/26, they approved his claim 10/27. They did tell me that his cancer qualified in 1/2013 when he was first diagnosed, then a 5 month waiting period, so they owe payments from 7/2013 until his death for SSD, then survivor benefits for the kids. They keep telling me that this is “in the processing center” and someone is “working on it”. I’ve been told this will be a large payment and that is why it is taking so long, but I have yet to receive any written notifications that anything is coming or approved. How long after a death do children normally have to wait to start receiving survivor benefits? They said since my DH has now passed away, his back SSD payments cannot be made to me they will be made to the children ???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Frustrated,

      It takes about three months for back pay Social Security to be released. If you haven’t received it within another month, you can ask your local office to send a follow-up memo. The survivor benefits will be calculated and paid after the worker’s (your husband’s) benefits are released. Underpayments are paid first to persons entitled to benefits on the deceased’s account. If you are not working and earning too much to receive benefits and at least one of your children is under age sixteen, you could apply as a young mother and receive benefits until your youngest turns sixteen. That would also qualify you to receive some or all of the back pay.

      In 2015, the first $15,720 gross earnings doesn’t affect benefits; in 2014 the amount was $15,480 and in 2013, $15,120. For every two dollars earned above that amount annual benefits are reduced by $1.00.

      The back pay for your children can be put back for future college or trade-school education for them or to cover expenses that monthly benefits won’t cover such as orthodontia work or other special needs. Or, if need be some of it can be used to supplement their curren needs including their share of housing and food costs.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  118. Felisha says:

    Hello,
    My son was awarded SSI and SSDI in June 2014. He started receiving a
    monthly benefit in September. He also has a sister who is already on SSI and SSDI and we received several notices making adjustments between payments to both of them due to a maximum benefit per family as I understand it with SSDI. This has gone back and forth since
    them with letters about overpayment to one with deductions from one child then from the other. When we talk to the local social security office they don’t seem to be able to explain what is going on or when these adjustments will end. In addition, my son has never received back pay although a letter was sent in August stating that he would receive $10,000 minus attorneys fees. We hope we will not be like many others waiting for years for this to be settled. Is there no one who we can contact besides the local office who can explain to us what is going on?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Felisha,

      You reference SSDI for both your son and daughter, but you also talk about a family maximum applying to them. Therefore, I assume that your children are receiving dependent benefits on your or their father’s earnings record. My response is based on that assumption.

      Your son will eligible for Social Security back pay if the family maximum is more than his sister is receiving; however the back pay will be only the difference between her benefit and the family maximum and it will be further reduced by any Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay paid out for months that overlap with the Social Security. The Social Security is usually paid after the SSI is paid.

      If both your son and daughter are minors, your daughter’s SSI will be recalculated to consider two disabled children in the household. If they are adults, their SSI will be calculated independently. Typically SSI is paid before Social Security.

      Please note that the information I am giving you is general, so for specifics you will have to depend on award and notice-of-change letters and your efforts to get explanations from the local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  119. JDD says:

    I had applied for disability for father after he was not cleared for work after two years. He passed away before he completed the approval process. They deemed I would receive his benefits of twelve months back pay plus the three months he was alive waiting approval. I received a check for a small fraction of what was owed. Is there a reason for this? The math adds up so that it looks like it might be just for the three months from filing date. Is it safe to assume the twelve months of back pay is still to come?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear JDD,

      I suggest that you contact Social Security and ask for an explanation, but here are some thoughts to consider. The information you are giving me doesn’t line up well because SSDI is usually paid in a single lump sum. When a person is approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI), his benefit begins to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after his established date of disability and twelve months before the date of application. Benefits would end the month before the month of his death.

      On the other hand, three times the monthly amount sounds like a Supplemental Security Income (SSI) installment payment on back pay. This raises the question of whether you said “father” as an informal name actually referring to your husband. The reason I ask this is that SSI does not pay underpayments to surviving children. If the benefits are indeed SSI, then you need to ask to have the full back pay released, which is possible because your deceased relative is not eligible for ongoing benefits. It is also possible that he was approved for both SSDI and SSI and that the SSI is being paid first. If this is the case the SSDI will be reduced by SSI paid for overlapping months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  120. Dan S. says:

    Help! I have filed for SSD and SSI both, I have a Nero problem causing loss of movement in left side due to a tumar that can only be diagnosed with a biopsy that will cause blindness. I was denied and appealed, hearing was in jan 2014. My attorney sent the last of my records last month. The judge reviewed my case last week per his assistant. Everything I’m reading hear leads me to believe even if I’m approved it could likely be months before I see payment. Based on my original file date I was told my benefits including SSI could be and estimated $2700 monthly. Recently I’ve thought this could be a potential backpay of as much as $50-$60k after the 5month process they take away. Yet I see people hear mentioning only getting a few thousand. This leaves me wondering if my calculations are correct. Secondly my father In law who is graced with enough retirement that he has literally payed my bills the past two years after I maxed out my credit cards. Will this be included in my income regarding the money given by him, or can I document as a loan to avoid it affectingly backpay. I plan to pay him back with the backpay. Also I’ve considered dropping my Ssi claim to avoid delaying my ssd the refilling for Ssi. Would you recommend this? I have contacted everyone to get these answered however Ssi offices won’t answer without and award letter what I should do and my attorney hasn’t returned my call in months.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dan,

      You do need to consult with your attorney. There may be something in your agreement with your attorney that prohibits dropping the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) claim. If you are eligible for $2,700 a month in Social Security benefits, you will not be eligible for SSI once they start. If you had a repayment agreement with your father, you can present that agreement to Social Security for your SSI claim. (The help from your father does not affect your Social Security claim.)

      You can get close to the correct figure of back pay by multiplying the number of months between when benefits would start times $2,700 per month. The result will be a little high but fairly close. Social Security benefits start the later of the sixth full calendar month of disability and twelve months before the date of the initial application that is now under appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  121. Pamela says:

    Dear Kay
    My son has been approved for SSI, he is 10yrs old now, was 9 then, for ADHD & PTSD back in May I just started receiving his monthly payments in October because the case manager takes her own precious time about her cases( everyone) complains about her. She said it will be three(3) payments and I just received one of his back pay payments of $2100 and she says that she can’t release another small payment until six months from then and I really don’t know when the last one will be sent, I understand it is a waiting game but she is being ridiculous!! Besides, during the times I was appealing his case, over and over for two years, I had to borrow money from several people to pay his medicines off bc his insurance would only pay some leaving me to pay anywhere from $60 to $187 and a couple times in the $200 and I’m indebted because of that and need to pay these people back and that is no more than right. If they found him to be disabled during those times then I should be able to pay them from his back pay!! Is there a way I can appeal how she is dispensing his backpay? I keep asking her for a letter stating how it will be dispersed and she has refused to give me a letter she only gives me evidence of his monthly payments which I explained to her that is NOT what I’m asking for! Please tell me what should I do or what can I do about this situation?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pamela,

      The law requires that large SSI back payments be issued in up to three installments six months apart. The first two cannot exceed $2,163 each. There are some circumstances that allow release of early installments. One is repayment of medical debts. I suggest that you request release of a certain amount owed for your son’s medication. You will need specific figures and to whom the money is owed. Usually such debts are owed to the provider and not private parties, but it is worth a try.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  122. roger says:

    Hi Kay ty for everything so far i called ODAR office today i am in in Decision writing now been there 2 days hopefully the writer is fast need to get help before christmas i am so broke i can not pay attention :-(

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      The formal decision is close to reaching you, but it is unlikely that you will receive benefits this month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  123. roger says:

    Dear Kay,
    i was told my case is with unassigned writer and i should have my award letter in 2 weeks or less,does this timeline seem right?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      Time frames vary greatly depending on the workloads at the time. Hopefully, your hearing office gave an accurate estimate based on the office’s current demands.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  124. arnold carpenter says:

    Hey i requested some of my back pay can any one tell me how long it takes.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Arnold,

      I assume that you requested more than the usual installment of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay due to financial hardship. If so, it can take from a couple of weeks to a month. I suggest following up if you have received anything in a month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  125. roger says:

    why don’t you answer me

  126. Alicia Carter says:

    My husband was approved for SSD back in January, he started receiving regular payments in July but we have still not received his back pay. We were told by the manager in our local office that his back pay was released to him and it would take 2 weeks to get. we waited two weeks and called the local office again and she said it would take about 30 days. It has been over 30 days and we have still not received anything. When they say 30 days do they mean 30 working days? I have not been able to get ahold of the manager that released the payment. We have been told it was released, but at this point that’s all we know.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Alicia,

      The local Social Security office does not release Social Security back payments. The authorization is made in the payment center. The local office is likely passing on what they have been told. Since you are being told that the payment has been sent, I suggest trying to file a report of non-receipt of payment to see if that gets you anywhere.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  127. I just posted to your website but left out one more question, am I eligible for SSI between the periods of Date of onset to Date of Eligibility. Am I eligible for SSI for the five month waiting period before my SSDI starts.
    Thank you in Advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeffry,

      If you applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) on the same date you applied for Social Security and you meet the financial qualifications, you will be eligible for SSI from the month after the month of application through the month before your Social Security is actually paid. Your Social Security back pay will then be reduced by the amount of SSI back pay you receive for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  128. Hello,
    I am a disabled veteran and am receiving a small monthly disability check. I started having seizures in October of 2010 and had memory issues for all of 2011. I was involved in a rollover accident in April of 2012 and injured pretty severely though it wasn’t diagnosed until July of 2012. I waited 9 months for the VA availability to see a spine specialist and was immediately operated on in March of 2013. I filed for disability in February of 2013 in the State of FL and was denied in May of 2013. I filed for a reconsider and was denied in July of 2013. I obtained an attorney and filed for an ALJ hearing. I received an offer for a video hearing from an ALJ in July of 2014, my attorney recommended that I turn down the offer and ask for an in person ALJ hearing. I finally got my hearing on November 5th of 2014 and was found Fully Favorable at the end of the hearing. With Veterans Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas I expect though and dreading even further delays. I do owe the IRS $700 dollars but have been unable to pay them. I havent filed in 3 years but I don’t owe them any additional monies since I havent earned any. With all the math and considerations, should they set my Date of Eligability back a year from my filing date and then add five months for the waiting period. Or will they go back to the Date of Onset and then add the five months to that. Sorry for the length of the email but this should answer many questions for people that have many of the variables that I have.
    thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeffry,

      Your Social Security Disability benefits will begin to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after the date of disability established by Social Security or twelve months prior to the date of your original application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  129. roger says:

    November 19th 2014 i got fully favorable bench decision for social security Disability i am in cleveland texas i have no money so after judge approved me i sent in a dire needs letter will this help me get my benefits faster?

    • roger says:

      i do not owe any money to anyone like child support etc

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      You may get your benefits a bit faster than without the statement. Before you receive payment the judge has to finalize the decision with a written determination and then a letter to you has to be prepared and signed by the judge. After that additional actions have to be taken by the local Social Security office and the payment to process payment. This translates into the likelihood that you will not receive benefits for a couple months or more.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  130. Kristen says:

    Hello my mom filed for ssd in April 2014 and got approved for benefits Oct 22 2014. She hasnt heard anything about back pay , will she get any back pay ? She owes over 3,000 to people she borrowed from family to help pay bills while she was out of work waiting for here disability.. So will she receive any back pay ?

    • Kristen says:

      She got her first check Oct 22 2014 *

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristen,

      I need additional information to answer your question.
      1. What date of disability did Social Security approve?
      2. Did she apply for Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or both?
      3. Is she really expected to pay the money back? If so, were there any written repayment agreements?

      Thanks,
      Kay

      • Kristen says:

        She applied for SSDI only and my mother said when she got her back pay she would pay them back no written agreements. Im not sure when she got approved she just got her first check October 22, 2014.

        • Kristen says:

          She was approved March 28th 2014.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Given that your mother applied only for SSDI, her benefits will begin to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after the date of disability onset Social Security approved (not the date on which they made the decision) or twelve months prior to the date of application.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Kristen,

          Social Security Disability (SSDI) is paid based on disability and on having enough work credits. Only workers compensation and certain public disability pensions affect SSDI benefit amounts. Your sister’s loans and income will not change her benefits and do not have to be reported.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Kristen says:

            if she got her first check from SSDI October 22nd 2014 does that mean she will not recieve any backpay ?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Typically, monthly benefits start before SSDI back pay is issued. Please also see my reply to your earlier question.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Kristen says:

            How long does the SSDI back pay take ?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Back pay for Social Security Disability is running about three months and longer if Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is also involved.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  131. Krishley says:

    Hello Kay,

    My daughter was receiving SSI for prematurity(low birth rate) and the SSA stopped her payments in May 2014, I received a letter prior to that stating that the payments will stop and I could file an appeal, in which I did, bu I did not receive anything stating benefits could continue until a final decision is made. So her disability examiner mentioned it to me about a week ago so I went and applied for benefits to continue. Do you know how long that may take since basically it was their fault that the letter was not in the package of papers I was sent in the mail?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Krishley,

      I can’t say for sure how long it might take for benefits to start; it could be a week or a month, assuming your daughter is eligible for payment continuation. Ordinarily for benefits to continue during appeal, you have to request continuation within ten days of the date of the letter. I suggest that you read all the letters over carefully to be sure that there was not a sentence in the appeal rights paragraph that notified you. If there was, benefits may not be restarted until the appeal is complete.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  132. Raven says:

    Alright. You are answering questions in comments. So I will post one. The person I care about has been severely disabled since he was 5 years old. But he was denied backpay, and is receiving an extremely small monthly check. The disability is very total so that he needs a wheelchair, and has had this same disability since he was 5. What do we do in order to get the backpay which was not given to him nor approved?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Raven,

      It sounds as if your friend receives Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits. The maximum back pay goes back to the month after the month in which the SSI application was filed, not to the date the person became disabled. I suggest that you contact the Easter Seal Society or other non-profit organizations to see whether one of them can help your friend get a wheelchair if he cannot get it through his Medicaid coverage.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  133. Pete says:

    I received a notice of Fully Favorable decision for SSD signed by the ALJ on Sept 25th 2014. My date of disability onset is Sept 1, 2012 (approved). There will be back pay of 21 months of disability (26 month minus 5 month waiting period). I have not received anything else from SSA since that time. I have contacted my local SSA and am told that my claim is in the payment center (Chicago) awaiting processing. I have no over payments, unemployment, owed taxes, ssi (did not qualify), attorney fees or owed money of any form. I sent in my information for direct deposit with my application.
    I do not know what to expect next. Will I receive a letter, payment mailed, payment direct deposited, or a phone call first? And how long might that take? The ALJ expedited the decision in my case, but I am told that the payment center will not expedite it. My local SSA emailed the payment center to ask for expedited service but I am told that they never responded back.
    Any help you can give me would be more information than I have already received from SSA.
    Thanks you in advance.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pete,

      I don’t have much more information than you have already received. It can take three months to get payments started. You may receive a direct deposit to your bank account of the regular monthly benefit before you get a letter, which should follow within a week to ten days. The back pay can take a couple or three months longer.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  134. Scott says:

    I was approved after 4 years and after appealing the AL judge I ended up getting the same judge for my appeal. We did not enter any additional medical evidence nothing had changed. The judge approved me after he had a career specialist present for the 2nd appeal hearing on the appeal that said no jobs were available for me. Now my question is why didn’t he have them there the at first hearing or at least the first appeal hearing before he made his decision ? I feel as if this judge has hurt me financially by not using all resources provided to him and making his decision. I waited 2 more years just for the final second appeal hearing with the Career specialist. Sure I’m gonna get back pay but as the saying goes to little to late.. people lose houses, cars, etc. while waiting for the approval. Isn’t there any ramification for a blatant miss call ?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Scott,

      Your appeal was successful because the judge made a mistake. You will be paid based on the original application and the date of disability that is accepted. Your benefits will begin the later of the sixth calendar month after the accepted date of disability or twelve months before the date of your original application that has been under appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  135. Matthew says:

    I was concurrent and had a lot of back pay in mid 2013 (8yrs and federal court win). I am currently receiving my monthly amount, In early Aug I got a letter stating they had held out 25% and asked if my lawyer wanted to collect anymore etc.. My lawyer had declined as they had been paid (from me and the back pay) .. this was over 3 months ago. They had also sent a letter declining further payment (was sent and confirmed by my representative and lawyer two days after I received it) My case was sent in Aug to the payment center to be released however that’s the last anything was done. I don’t owe any bills, taxes etc. My local office rep has sent some notices seeking comment and all they got was “still processing”. They then did a manger to manager contact and basically got a “need more time to process”. Now granted I feel for new people as I suffered greatly for many years and ended up in federal court to win my case, but at this point I’m established and have automatic deposit and there’s really nothing to do. How can they just be allowed to say a cookie cutter “need more time” without a reasonable explanation. How am I to get these funds released? My lawyer has basically said they are done with things, and my representative said can check in a few more months after the manger to manger response.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Matthew,

      You and your local office have done all you can do. When a very large amount of back pay is due, it has to be reviewed and signed off by two individuals before it is released. The “more time” required is probably a matter of your claim waiting its turn after the claims of others that have been approved before yours.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  136. Stephanie says:

    How long do it take u to receive back pay payments..? I approved in August 2014but November 2014 was when I go my first payment

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stephanie,

      If your claim is for SSI benefits, you should have at least the first installment of back pay in about a month. If your claim is for Social Security Disability (SSDI), it can take up to three months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Stephanie says:

        I done opened up my decided account, I was told every time I received a payment that money was supposed to go in my back pay account.. I been waiting 2years ,finally got approved in Aug …y does it take to months to receive my back payment?

  137. jenny says:

    Does it mean I got approved for ssi if my husband is on ssi and they stopped his ssi direct deposit and sent him a check instead. He called and asked why they did that and they said because of a decision with my case but didnt tell me what. Oh forgot to put I applied in september.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenny,

      The situation you describe seems to indicate that you have been approved and your SSI and your husband’s SSI will be calculated at the couple rate.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  138. J.P. says:

    Hello Kay I am still waiting on your response thank you for any information on this matter..

  139. Shannon says:

    Hello. Several questions. I received fully favorable decision Sept 2014 for ssi & ssd. I received the approval letter from ssa about my monthly ssi benefit, backpay for ssi etc. Ssa letter also stated they would pay social services back 1st, then my attorney, &finally me whatever was left.
    Received my ssi monthly payment Oct 1st. Then received approx $1200 on 17th. Today $2100 was deposited. Why 2 deposits & for what, ssi backpay? Yes, I was expecting backpay for ssi & ssd. But no letter from ssd yet.
    Also, my two children live with their father since before my disability, &I pay child support and am up to date/current etc. The worker at ssa said my children are likely toget $ too & she asked for their address etc.. Why, if their father has full custody & I am current on support do they get monies due me? If they are in fact entitled to benefits, which does that come out of (ssd backpay?), how much, how often, to whom does $ go to? I’ve asked ssa these questions & they don’t give answers… just say ill get info in mail. Nothing yet, just 2small deposits.
    Last, after reading a lot of these, I am confused as to backpay for ssd, (when & if it comes) will be less because I got ssi backpay? Pls explain. Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shannon,

      My guess is that the $1,200 on the 17th is your regular monthly Social Security payment and that the $2100 is your SSI back pay or the first installment of the back pay; however, I can’t be sure. You should get letters of explanation within about a week; however in the meantime you can call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 and ask what each payment is.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  140. J.P. says:

    Thank you ,so I’m required to sign him up for dependent benefits?? I was wishing I didn’t have to and just sign up his older brother instead of him.. I guess that means he will get less money and have to split 600 plus dollars with his brother and his back pay he would have to pay back for recieving His share of back pay off his father?? That really suck that is losing money that we can’t afford to lose.. I wish that it was another way around that plus me and their father are not together any more and we haven’t been together really in years.. Instead of this been a blessing it is going to be a hinderance in our favor.. Single and raising 3 kids is not easy..

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.P.,

      Your child should end up with more money now that he is eligible for Social Security benefits. The Social Security will be offset (reduced) by SSI because SSI is a public assistance program based on other income and cannot be paid at the full rate for months in which Social Security would have been due. The Social Security check will be paid in the correct amount after the SSI offset. In other words, the government will not make duplicate payments for the same period.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  141. J.P. says:

    Hello I have 3 children living at home 2 younger ones has the same father,but the oldest one doesn’t ages 15,12 and 11.. Leading to my question my 15 year gets a check off her disable father and my youngest gets a disable check for being disable for a couple years now.. I want to know since my youngest kids father has become disable and has gotten approve.. He hasn’t gotten any money as of yet he gotten his approval letter last month.. I was wondering if his back pay will effect my disable son check?? Their father is looking for a large sum.. If I add my disable son for a dependent pay would he have to pay back the ssi he has gotten prior to my kids father signing up for ssd?? Or should I just add the oldest one and leave my younger disable son off.. Right now I have worked,but time is hard and my income isn’t enough to keep my family up we are barely making it.. I am trying to figure out how to save income and by adding a little more to help out.. Could you please give me some kind of advice because I can’t afford to loss income that contribute to help pay for our living and well being.. I hope you understand where I’m trying to say here thanks once more J.P.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.P.,

      The change in your husband’s income will affect your youngest child’s SSI benefits. The large lump sum back pay will likely make the child ineligible that month. Whether or not his SSI continues depends on the amount of of his father’s ongoing Social Security and the amount of Social Security dependents benefits he is eligible for and which the SSI program requires he apply for. If he loses his SSI and Medicaid eligibility secondary to SSI eligibility and you don’t have other insurance, you can apply for insurance under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), which may provide your family with some government subsidy. Note that if your disabled child is disabled for life and doesn’t marry, he will be eligible for Social Security dependent and survivor benefits throughout his lifetime.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  142. Christopher says:

    I have a question regarding back pay. It took me five years to finally win my case on the grounds of some mental health issues. My ruling was partially favorable and I was awarded back pay for a couple years prior to my ruling. I received one payment in the amount of $2100. Like many of the people who posted here I was without stable living arrangements and my credit rating was destroyed. I am on track now and have a stable home. My problem is this. I was recently diagnosed as being HIV+ and HCV+. The area that I reside in does not have the specialists I need to see in order to get treatment. I have always had an aversion to driving so never had a car. I’m still owed around $12,000 in back pay, and I could really use it in order to buy a car to get back and forth to doctor’s appointments and/or relocate to be in an area that I could be treated in. The money I’m owed will be paid in the 6 month incremental period, but I can’t wait. Sure, the Medicaid will cover some of the meds, but I would have to travel an hour in one direction just to get to the doctor. I dread going to the SSA office because every time I’ve gone they’ve treated me horribly. They act like they are going out of their way to give me something that I am entitled to. I don’t want to disclose my status just yet because there are people close to me whom I haven’t told yet. I just found out on 10-17-14. When I do disclose it I am almost certain I will lose my housing (not because of discrimination). I’m struggling to make it on the $721, but I’m doing my best and I’m not complaining about it. It’s just that the back pay I’m owed would go a long way in helping me get in to treatment so I can maintain my health. In my opinion the SSA doesn’t see it like that. I just don’t know what to do. I realize the rules are in place for a reason, but when implemented I’m positive they didn’t consider cases like mine. I’m not going to die in 12 months (hopefully), I’m not buying a house, but I need my back pay. A year of waiting could spell disaster for me. The back pay I’m owed would go to buying a car to get me back and forth to the doctor and could even help to secure housing in an area where I could receive proper medical care. It’s just sad because I am so intimidated by the workers there and at this point the last thing I need is for someone to judge me. It really doesn’t seem like it, but $12,000 could mean the difference in me staying healthy or my progression in to a stage of the illness where there is no turning back. Yes, I can get the medication through ADAP or Medicaid, but I can’t get to a doctor. I know Medicaid provides transportation to and from doctor’s appointments, but I really don’t want to go through that. I don’t know what else to do, where to turn and I’m at a total loss. Not only do I have 2 deadly infectious diseases, but also a long history of mental illness that I’m not receiving treatment for at all. Do you have any suggestions on how I can approach this subject? I understand how a lot of people on this thread feel. It’s like you go through years and years to just get approved and when you finally do the SSA treats you like garbage. I don’t want sympathy. I just want what I’m entitled to without having to kowtow to some government robot. In my local SSA office you have to speak through glass and if I talk to a worker I’d have to practically scream out what was going on and I feel that would violate my rights to privacy. Just to sum up the facts: I was given a partially favorable ruling (I was eligible for 2 years instead of 5) I received one expedited payment of $2100 to secure my housing. All that went to rent and security deposits, etc. I’m still owed $12k. My next installment payment is supposed to be in December with a final disbursement in June of 2015. I am already receiving $721 a month in SSD payments. I have Medicaid and I receive SNAP benefits in the amount of $123 monthly. I am in a same sex partnership, but we are not married nor do we combine our income. It’s a strain on both of us. His parents bought him a car, but it is not in his or my name and he uses it to commute to work and home. He cannot take me to the doctor. I don’t know what else to do. I’m at the point where I just want to throw my hands up and surrender and just stay in bed until the day my maker comes for me. I know it sounds dramatic, but that’s how I feel. If you could offer any suggestions they’d be greatly appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Christopher,

      I suggest that you get a letter from your local doctor saying that you need to see a specialist in another town to get necessary treatment for a newly diagnosed physical condition that is life threatening. The letter does not have to say what the diagnosis is. You can then write a letter requesting release of the remainder of the money now so that you can purchase a care to drive to the other town for treatment. Include in the letter the amount you will need for the car, title and licensing. You can present these to the representative at Social Security. When you do, ask who will be making the decision and when you can expect an answer. If they want to go into detail, I suggest that you ask to be seen in a private room for the sake of your privacy.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  143. Karen P. says:

    When I received my SSD award I was “docked” $200.00 per month because I lived for free in a rental home owned by my father. My father has recently passed away. I (along with 3 other beneficiaries) own the house now and I still do not pay rent, but I am co-owner of the house. Shouldn’t my award amount be increase by the $200.00 that was deducted initially from my award? When I called the SSA Office they told me to apply for SDI since my income was so low (due to them docking my award initially!). I don’t understand this. It seems to me that because it was SSD that “docked” me that they should have to adjust my award amount now that I co-own my home. Why are they telling me to file for SSI now? What do you suggest I do? This is so frustrating! The other 3 beneficiaries are all on SSD and are getting their FULL AMOUNT of SSD, so why am I still getting a deduction? Can’t my case be reviewed due to the change in my living circumstances? I worked far longer than the other 3 involved, yet they are all receiving more money than I am every month! How does this work and what should I do? Can I request a hearing? I don’t know what to do about this but it seems unfair to me. Please advise. Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Karen,

      The information you have provided is confusing. I think you may be using abbreviations incorrectly. SSD is Social Security Disability, which is a benefit based on your earnings record. SSI is Supplemental Security Income and is a public assistance program for people with limited income and assets, and SDI is State Disability Insurance and is not a federal benefit. Depending on the state it is paid for only six months or a year. SSD is not reduced because of free rent. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) could be reduced due to free rent. Once you are an owner, I would expect any reduction to stop if you are paying the mortgage or there is no mortgage. If you think your benefits are being calculated incorrectly after you reported the inheritance (which would likely make you ineligible for one month of SSI), you do have the right to appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  144. shanell says:

    So she can learn to interact with other kid a an people cus she mean I ment to say sorry

  145. shanell says:

    Hello my daughter got approved an got a back pay almost right away. I got my house fully safty proof baught beds furniture things that she was needed for her to be comfortable home first before anything. My ? Is november is when she is due another backpay check so now my option is a car to get her back an forth to appointments an an go to the school personally so I know she comfortable were she will be at least 8 hours a day the estimate that I have for a van I want is 4500 cash i do not want a car she bangs windows pulls at doors so I need the van to keep her away from the windows an door handles basically something to suit her my only child so when I take the estimate up there shouldn’t I be able to get that amount. Im am not working do to her disability im a stay at home mommy no job an 721 takes care of her needs not my mine so im trynna get her in a awesome daycare an I need to go to school or find a job cus I have needs also so I need to to learn to interact with other kids instead of biting pinching scratching on so on its not easy on me an on top of all of it her speech badly delayed badly she not even saying mama or dada so its really frustrating what can I do an am I entitled to get that amount seeing its something needed an apart of what the ssi booklet says

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shanell,

      I get the impression that your daughter is a minor. My comments are based on that assumption. You need to talk to your state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) about whether you can title a vehicle in a minor’s name. If not, talk to Social Security to see if some special rules apply to your situation, because in general your daughter’s SSI benefits belong to her and cannot be used to property for which you will be the legal owner. An attorney might be able to tell you of a way to handle the DMV situation.

      As far as getting more than one installment released at a time, you can request release of the $4,500 plus costs to title and register based on the need for safe transportation to the services that you mention. Explain your reasoning as you have explained it to me, including how you used the first payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  146. Kristina says:

    HI,
    I know we have a difficult case with social security,
    But these are my questions.
    I have been disabled since 2004, at this age I was 23, I am confused on why I didn’t qualify for ssdi, because I had 17 work credits at that age, they are telling me I needed 20 credits but online it says for that age I only need a 1 and half years of work, also I am confused because my disability actually began in 2001 but the approval say august of 2004. I get social security income benefits but I am so confused why I didn’t get the social security disability benefits. I never really looked into my approval, or why I was getting these benefits instead of the other benefits because at the time I went to the ALJ I was very sick and on chemo therapy and radiation treatments, then in 2007 I applied for benefits for my son who has severe ADHD, Speech problems and Hearing difficulties and he was approved almost instantly ,for ssi, and throughout this whole process my husband worked and owned his own small mechanic business and made roughly around $1100 a month {winter months were pretty rough} and that never messed with my son nor I disability checks {ssi payments} recently he got approved for ssdi payments of only $779 a month and now my check is being split with him for ssi and they call it a couple rate but it is only 323 split in two and he gets his full ssdi check monthly and me and each of our two children get $23.00 so I am not understanding how when he worked we got full benefits but now that he is receiving ssdi my check would be cut all the way down to 161.50 for myself, but his check doesn’t affect my sons check only by 3 dollars, also this approval was on june 24th {the judge approved him the day before the hearing was scheduled} and he only started receiving benefits on September 3rd and still no back payment has come in for SSDI or SSI, which he is owed almost $16,000 after the attorney fees, but the attorney had been paid, and social security keeps saying no the attorney hasn’t been paid yet but that money has been put in offset, and is at the payment processing center, and we have notices from both social security and the attorney that his attorney has been paid in full. also there is a payment of $290.00 that is owed to me for benefits on his account that is paid to me for a mother caring for minor children that also went to and offset and we are not understanding why we can’t just get some of this back pay already to pay some of our bills, so if you can understand any of this and help us understand it. I would appreciate it!!!! thanks Kristina

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristina,

      You raise several questions. First, more of earned income is excluded when calculating Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits than unearned income (everything other than work earnings) exclusions. Your child’s SSI is calculated differently than a couple’s SSI.

      It is now typically taking three months from the date that monthly Social Security Disability benefits begin to get Social Security back pay. The SSI back pay, if any, will be paid first. Your SSI benefit has to be recalculated all the way back to the first month for which he is eligible for SSI, which means his SSI back pay will be reduced to balance out your SSI overpayment for those months when you retroactively became a member of an SSI couple rather than an individual. Then the Social Security back pay has to be reduced by any SSI back pay paid out. In summary, the situation is complex and will require multiple calculations and authorizations and may take longer than the usual three months. Dependent benefits will be paid after his benefits are resolved.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  147. Tonya says:

    Kay, I went for my SSDI hearing in april 2014. I got my award letter in July telling me they were going back to september of 2010. I have since received my first monthly payment for september, but I still havent received the back pay. It is a big amount and was wondering if that’s why I haven’t received it yet. I talked to someone on the 800 # a couple weeks ago and they said it was showing at the payment center, but as of today I still haven’t received it. any help will be appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tonya,

      If it has been more than three months since you received your first monthly payment, ask your local Social Security office to send a follow-up memo to the payment center. Some payments, if they are very large, have to be reviewed twice by two different people to assure accuracy.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Tonya says:

        Thanks Kay. I went down to the SS office and they said 3 – 4 months because it is such a big amount and it has to go through about 5 different people before being released. Does that sound right to you? Thanks again for your help
        Tonya

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Tonya,

          Very large amounts of back pay do have to be reviewed by multiple people. I do not know the exact number.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  148. Jenifer says:

    Hi Kay,
    I was approved for my ssdi claim by The DQB on Sept. 26, 2014. My onset date is Aug. 1, 2010. I understand that I will not be paid back to the onset date. Only for 1yr of back pay? Is that correct? I have not received any type of payments yet. I did complete apps at the local office for my two children so they could receive benefits as well. The reps are not too friendly and didn’t want to provide me any info such as my benefit amount for myself and children. I was told you just need to wait til the mail gets to you. ;( I find it very confusing that I am going to get some ssi payments for the ssdi waiting period and it will be deducted from my ssdi back payment. Is that correct? Also are there supposed to be two different reps handling a ssdi claim? Because there is an ssdi claim rep for me and she stated she has completed her part and the ssi rep assigned to me needs to update his part. Also he never returns any of my calls. However, I reviewed my social sec online and I noticed a One Time Payment in the payment section of 733.54. I am clueless what this is for. Could this be the ssi waiting period funds? Or my back pay of ssdi for 1year? Or my regular payment? The local office is not very helpful. One lady said to me you have to many questions I’m trying to answer phones. She transferred me to the ssi rep who never returns calls….would you be able to point me in right direction? Thank you!!!

    • Jenifer says:

      Also one more question. My children were approved in 09/2010 for the ssi benefits for them they have Special needs. Now I have been approved for ssdi and half of my benefit will go to them but they split it? Is that correct? They were approved for ssi benefits way before I applied in March 2014 for ssdi and ssi somehow for my self. Does that mean I have to pay back from my on set date of aug2010 to current out of my children’s back pay from my ssdi benefits? I got a letter about my children’s benefit today and states on their payments being help up for ssi payments made and a reduction may take place. I don’t know what to do…thank you for your help

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jenifer,

        Your children’s Social Security will be the lesser of one-half of your benefit for each child or the difference between your benefit and your family maximum benefit split between the two of them. You can go to http://www.ssa.gov/mysocialsecurity and set up an account for yourself. Once you do that you can get a copy of your earnings statement, which will have an estimate of your benefit and your family maximum. Your children’s back Social Security benefits will be reduced for the amount of SSI they received for the same period. Their ongoing SSI will be reduced or terminated depending on how high your and their Social Security is. It sounds as if the processing described is correct.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenifer,

      Your benefits will start the later of January 2011 or one year prior to the month of your original application. It is correct that your Supplemental Security Income claim (SSI) will be paid first and that your Social Security back pay will be reduced by any SSI you receive for the same months. The claims representatives specialize so it is correct that one handles the Social Security and another the SSI. It is possible that the “one-time” payment is your first monthly SSI benefit. It may show “one-time” because the amount will be different the following month (SSI financial eligibility and payment amount is determined on a month-by-month basis.) If you can’t tell looking online, you can call the 800 number and at least find out if it is SSI. At this point, you will just have to wait until everything is processed. It can be three months or more before you get your and your children’s Social Security back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  149. DEE J says:

    Hello I have been approved for SSI/SSDI and I am wondering how does
    the backpay differs each 6 months. The first month I received $2163
    and I am owed over $8500. Also when I receive the last payment will
    it change my monthly benefits. I received a letter stating we will not count an installment payment as your resource for 9 months. And the 9 month period ends February 28, 2015. So if I am due backpay will this go against my benefits. Also will the last payment be the full amount that is due to me?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dee,

      The last installment should pay you all the remaining back pay. Each installment gets its own nine-month period of being excluded from resource and doesn’t count toward the resource limit and does not affect eligibility. The money can also be used to buy an excludable resource such as a house, car or irrevocable life insurance.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  150. amber evans says:

    I have been on ssi since June of 2013 and recently applied for disability. I haven’t received a letter stating I was approved but I checked my ssa.gov and it says I am on disability and the first payment will be 10/3, my beneifit verification letter says I made xxx January 2014 and xxx for December 2013. Is that going to be to calculate back pay? And when can I expect for it to come in because since my snap benefits went down to 15$ and even with the rasie from disability from ssi I fall in financial qualifications and should not have effected it. How would I find out it back pay will be given at same tome as first benefit payment?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Amber,

      Back pay is paid separately from monthly benefits. I assume that by “disability” you mean Social Security Disability benefits. If that is the case, your back pay for Social Security will be reduced by Supplemental Security Income (SSI) that you received for the same period. Back pay can take thirty to ninety days. I suggest that you check with your local office for an estimate for your specific claim.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  151. Kayla says:

    My dad has been collecting my social security benefits from my mother who died and I turn 18 in November and got a letter saying that if I am a full time student I can start getting them in my name until I turn 19. Well I have another year of highschool left but what I’m concerned about is that I’m homeschooled(enrolled in my district as a homeschool student) and take all my classes online at Florida Virtual School and I was reading the guidelines of what makes you a full time student and it said I needed to be enrolled in a “non-correspondence” course. So I’m wondering if these internet classes are counted as non-correspondence course’s and if my application will be approved. Do you have any experience with this I would greatly value your opinion on if you think I will be approved or not. Also, how long will it take to get my letter of approval or denial, if it gets denied can I enroll in public highschool then send in a new SSA-1372 form even if it’s after my 18th birthday?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kayla,

      I don’t know whether home-schooling will be considered a correspondence course, but it is possible that it will. If you are not eligible as a home-schooled child, I believe that you could reapply once you enroll in a public school, but you would likely not be paid for months that you were not attending the school physically. If it is important for you to receive continuing benefits, I suggest that you talk to Social Security now to find out whether, if you are denied for home schooling, you start public school after you are eighteen and reapply. If you cannot and you want benefits to continue, then you need to enroll in October, the last month for which you will be paid as a minor.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  152. Amy says:

    I was awarded SSDI on Aug 11, I have a dependent child who is 11yrs old, do I automatically get benefits to help support her? Or is that something separate I need to file for? How long does that take? How do I go about doing that ?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Amy,

      If you listed your child on your application, your child’s application should be in processing now. I would, however, check with the Social Security office to be sure that everything is in the works. Benefits are typically paid to the adult who has custody of the child and may be paid to the disabled parent if disability is not too severe.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  153. Tynia Edward says:

    I m waiting on my hearing diagnosed with ms doctor told me I cant work since april 2013 lawyer appeals case in dec how long it take for a hearing I did get a letter asking if I want a video conference or person for the hearing it was in the hearing office all I kno

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tynia,

      Given the letter you received about an in-person versus video hearing, I would say that you are close to getting a hearing date.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  154. Pamela says:

    Hi Kay,
    Hope you’re having a beautiful day. I would like to know if my son’s SSI decision was overturned in May 2014 to fully favorable. I had applied back in March 2012 and have to open a dedicated account for him to receive his back pay because it’s too large. Is he suppose to receive the benefits from June, July, Aug, and Sept 2014 in check form since the final fully favorable decision was made in May 2014? The rep said I can only use his funds in the dedicated account for medical expenses only. I don’t think that’s fair because I have been fight on my own with appeals, paperwork, appointments etc.(acting as a non lawyer). On his behalf, which has taken many hours and very time consuming and he need his meds are over $200/month, he has $100 co-pays at his doctors and specialists offices, clothes, bed, humidifier which I can’t afford to buy myself. The rep said the money has to stay in his account until he is 18 or longer! That really sucks!! Please help me understand this, please! Thank you for listening.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pamela,

      While your son is under age eighteen, you can use the money in the Supplemental Security Income dedicated account for the medical items such as you listed: his medication and co-pays. The money can also be used for education or job skills training when he is older and in some circumstances for personal needs or assistance, special equipment (this might include the humidifer), housing modification, therapy or rehabilitation, and other items or services approved by your local Social Security office, like costs you incurred in establishing the claim for disabled child’s benefits. If you owe medical bills for his past care, you might get permission to use some of the money to pay those debts.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  155. Sanna says:

    I receive benefits for my daughter, recently her father and I were divorced. I received the letter with the amount of her benefit changes since she has been receiving payments since 2012 and also they disclosed that I did not receive the amount each month that was supposed to be paid out so back pay is due totaling almost $6000. How long will it take to get the back pay and will it come as a lump sum?

    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sanna,

      If your daughter’s benefits are Social Security dependent benefits and you have already gotten a letter, I would expect you to receive the funds within a month. If the benefits are Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits, then the back pay will be paid in three installments six months apart.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Sanna says:

        Thank you, it is for disability. once I receive the letter is there an amount of time it takes to release the first payment?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sanna,

          Your daughter’s Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay will be paid out in installments of no more than $2,163 six months apart. If you have not received the first installment within a month of being told it is due, I recommend following up with the local office.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Sanna says:

            The 800 number did not tell me that I had to open a dedicated account for them to release funds, went down to the local office and they accepted everything today…I was told that it could take 48 to 72 hours to receive funds. Is that accurate?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Sanna,

            How long releasing the funds will take depends on how quickly after your visit the representative does the work to complete release. If he or she said forty-eight to seventy-two hours, it means that the person expected to complete the work quickly. If he or she is able to meet that expectation, then the time frame is accurate.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  156. Mona says:

    My husband filed for social security in 2006. He has been denied all these years. Now the ruling was over turned in his favor. Waiting for new court date?
    My question is … He also has a Workers Comp case that has been going on for 10 yrs! yes 10 yrs! Injured in 2004
    I heard if you get SSI before your case settles with Workers Comp, that SSI takes half away as back payment? Is this true? should he not go through with the SSI case and wait?
    Please help us understand the consequences… Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mona,

      Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits are offset (reduced by) workers compensation; however, if your husband is unable to work, he should continue to pursue the SSDI claim for several reasons. First, usually the total SSDI and workers compensation is more than either benefit alone. Second, the workers compensation might not pay out as long as Social Security. Also, after two years of benefits, including benefits for past months, your husband will be eligible for Medicare. To avoid overpayments, he needs to be sure Social Security knows that he is receiving workers comp and any changes in the workers comp award. If your husband is approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), he may not be eligible in months he receives workers comp because his income will be too high.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Mona says:

        Thank you for responding..
        He hasn’t worked for ten years now. And his workers comp benefits have run out. He is awaiting a settlement still. We heard that if he wins his workers comp case after he receives his SSDI settlement and payments , that SSDI takes an amount to cover what he has already received? We don’t understand how it all works? He currently does not receive any amount of money from either system. But his ruling on being denied SSDI has been overturned , and he is awaiting a new court date. He filed for SSDI in 2006 does he get back payments?
        Thank you for your help.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Mona,

          If your husband is awarded Social Security Disability benefits and later receives a workers compensation settlement and if the settlement is not reduced for the Social Security he has received, he should report the settlement to Social Security and not spend the settlement money until he gets a notice from Social Security regarding how much Social Security he is overpaid. That way he can use the settlement money to repay the overpayment. The settlement is likely to be more than the overpayment, so it is likely some will be left for other uses.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Mona says:

            Ridiculous! He was injured at work and Workers Comp owes him. Now since he can’t work and needs SSI they want to take away money awarded to him? What’s the point of paying into both Workers Comp and SSI if they take away any money owed back to recipient?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Mona,

            I cannot find the post and response you are referring to, so cannot respond.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  157. james says:

    I was told I have 6,000 or more back pay waiting on me cause I had to renew some papers… I was cut off about 6 to 7 months. how would I get the back payment, I updated the papers on the 2nd of this month but dont get a payment until oct 1

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear James,

      You are likely to get the monthly payment before the back pay. If the benefits are Social Security Disability (SSDI), the back pay may have to be issued by the payment center and could take a couple months. If the benefits are Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the back pay may be paid in three installments, the largest being $2163.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  158. andrew says:

    I went to court for my disability hearing on July 22 2014 and received my favorable decision letter on Aug 29th 2014. On 9/10/14 on the SSA.GOV website is says there is a one time payment for 7,077.39. What does that mean? And if its my back pay when should I receive it? Please note that my lawyer went for just a closed period which is back pay only.

  159. zeneida bisono says:

    Hi,
    My question is: I recently applied for disability benefits for my 18 year old son and I was told that he became disabled since 2000 and his case was approved ,But i didn’t apply by that time even though i knew he was disabled. What that means? that he is going to receive all those years as retroactive?
    Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Zeneida,

      If you applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI disability, benefits will start the month after application on in the month of application if you applied on the first of the month. If you applied for Social Security disabled adult child benefits, benefits will begin six months before the month of application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  160. teresa mchargue says:

    yes I have a question I was married for 13 years I have work all my life when my husband dies back in 2002 our son receive his social security till he reach the age of 18 and the check stop he did go straight to college from high school my question is how does someone received social security disability thru an disability divorce parent and they receive checks after the age 18 my child lost his father and I lost my husband I was just wondering

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Teresa,

      I am not certain whether you are asking about benefits for yourself or our son.

      A divorced spouse can receive Social Security disabled surviving divorced spouse’s benefits if he or she was married to the deceased worker for ten years or more and is age fifty or older and has not remarried. In some circumstances, the person must also have become disabled within seven years of the death of the worker or within seven years of the date she last received mother’s benefits on the worker’s account. Otherwise, reduced widow(er)s benefits are payable at age sixty. Your son could apply for disabled adult child benefits on his father’s earnings record if he became disabled before age twenty-two

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  161. sharon smith says:

    Thanks kay for the answer i took the information up there week ago and now I’m waiting on an approval how long would that take

  162. Brian says:

    i was wondering since i get ssi if dfc is going to make me pay them back for the food stamps i was getting out of my back pay or is that
    only if you get actual welfare cash…thanks

  163. Rickie says:

    Good afternoon,

    I was recently approved for SSDI benefits. There was quite a large backpay (over $20,000 like some others here). Our car is about to die, and this would allow me to buy a new car to get back and forth to medical appointments, run errands, etc. My concern is about disclosing the backpay amount to my state (Wisconsin). Right now I have been getting SNAP and Medicaid benefits. With my SSDI monthly benefit that begins this month at the end, I may still qualify for state assistance because of our family size and outstanding medical bills. However, at no point have I been asked to disclose if there was a backpay/lump sum amount. I feel hesitant to disclose it to the state unasked for, but I also don’t want to put myself in a place where I have to pay back benefits or risk breaking the law. I don’t know what the law is. Can you please tell me what your experience has been with folks in my situation, and what you have advised most of them to do? I understand we don’t have an attorney-client relationship and I really appreciate the service you are providing the public on your site. Have a great day.

    Rickie

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rickie,

      I believe that you are required by law to report all income changes for SNAP (food stamps) and Medicaid. The large Social Security payment will likely make you ineligible in the month it was received and for subsequent months in which you still have the large amount of funds. However, you may not need to repay the type of assistance you have been receiving. Accordingly, the back pay might still be available to purchase a car. Note that regardless of the impact of reporting, I think you will find that you are obliged to report. You should have received a list of reporting responsibilities when you began to get benefits. If you can’t find them, you can get them again from the agencies administering the benefits.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  164. lashad perry says:

    My.question I’s if you owe.Back child.support.How much are they allowed to take (percentage wise.) Of Your retroactive back pay? I heard no more than 50% if you are supporting anther spouse.or child . But I.also heard that each state has a maximum percentage they can take. I’m currently in NORTH CAROLINA. Would you by chance know.How much my state can take percentage wise I can’t find the info anywhere

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lashad,

      I suggest that you check with the North Carolina child support collection agency for their rules. Also, be sure to list the child for whom you owe child support on your application so that if your Social Security family maximum is high enough for dependent benefits, that child will receive benefits, which could result in a lowering of your ongoing child support obligation.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  165. Carisa says:

    I receive Ssdi and was receiving Tanf also but was cut off a few days ago, will my SSDI go up since I no longer receive that income for my kids any longer?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Carisa,

      Your Social Security Disability benefits will not increase because you stopped receiving welfare assistance for your children. However, if your Social Security benefit is high enough for the family maximum benefit to be higher that your own benefit, your children will be eligible for Social Security dependent benefits. If you have not already applied for them to receive dependent benefits and provided birth certificates for them, I suggest contacting your Social Security office to make application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  166. Carl Joseph says:

    im getting retro pay from ssi and ssd than i will be cut off of ssi and only receive ssd can welfare take money from ssi or ssd or both

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Carl,

      Direct repayment to the welfare office will be made only from your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay; however, you may still be responsible for repaying any balance owing by using Social Security (SSDI) back pay paid to you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  167. Billie Heinzelman says:

    My husband just recently got approved for SSD
    He applied in January 2014
    He has a five month waiting period for which he will not receive any back pay for
    So he’s only gonna get 2 months back pay
    My question is!!! Why are working people who pay into to the system get penalized ??
    SSI is for the poor or people who were either too lazy to ever had worked ( so in most cases may explain why their poor)
    Other than people who may actually been sick all their life.
    So therefore they had a reason not to ever worked.
    And I’m not talking bout people who receive both SSI & SSD
    Cause those people worked
    They just had a job that paid poor wages
    I’m speaking mainly bout people that are young and lazy and lay around doing drugs and having babies just to get checks.
    I have family members that fit this description I’m talking bout.
    It’s unfair that our government penalize people on SSD
    And not SSI
    SSI don’t have the 5 month waiting period
    Plus once approved get automatic MEDICAID
    But SSD ( working people ) have 5 months waiting period plus have to wait 24 months for Medicare.
    I’m sick of the double standard bullshit!!
    The rules should be the same if you are disabled.
    That’s all I ask !! Is for fairness

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Billie,

      You can express your opinions to your senator and congressional representative as Congress passes the laws that govern these benefits.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  168. sharon smith says:

    Thanks kay for the answer how can i get the registration with out getting the vehicle do i have to purchase it first to get the registration and title

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharon,

      Once you purchase the car, go to the motor vehicles department to get the registration and title. Be aware that the car has to be purchased with your son as owner because you are using his money to purchase the car. (Be sure that you are listed as an insured driver when you purchase car insurance.) Motor vehicles can probably tell you how to register and title a car in the name of a minor. (I suggest that you get Social Security’s approval of the use of the dedicated funds for the car purchase before you start the process.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  169. sharon smith says:

    Hi my son got approve for ssi on may15,2014 his first payment was 480 dollars and then in june18 he started getting his back pay but they say every six months for the next pay I’m trying to get an vehicle to take him back and forward to his physical therapy and to school is there’s a way I can use some of back for that

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharon,

      Your son can apply to have more of the back pay released to purchase transportation for medical care. Be prepared to state how much is needed for the car, including registration and title.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  170. Tyler says:

    Kay-
    i have been recieving ssi since 2010 and worked from july 2012 until march 2014 and i am currently waiting to get on ssd, i am married and my wife is on ssi, will i get any form of back payments when i get on ssd? and if i get a new job when im on ssd will my wife’s money be less? or will her money be less because im on ssd?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tyler,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) and your work earnings, if you work, will be considered in determining your wife’s Supplemental Security Income (SSI) eligibility and payment amount. Whether or not your wife’s SSI is reduced will depend on the amount of the SSDI and/or work earnings you receive.

      Any back SSDI benefits you are eligible for will be reduced by the amount of SSI already paid to you for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  171. Lorenzo says:

    my mom has been approved for backpay since 2002 because of a error they made when she became disabled. she got a letter back in feb and its now aug!!!! she has been very ill and worried she wont get it in time. if something happens are her adult kids entitled to it since it was owed to her? Thanks..