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Learn about processing times for Social Security Disability back pay, factors that can delay it, and tips on how to speed up payment.

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Social Security Disability Back Pay and Ongoing Monthly Benefits

How you begin to receive your Social Security Disability benefits varies depending on several factors. Sometimes a person’s first payment will include all back pay through the prior calendar month and will then be followed by regular monthly benefits. At other times, Social Security has to do additional calculations before back benefits can be paid, and the Administration will start your regular monthly checks before releasing your Social Security Disability back pay.

Delays in Back Pay Due to Other Benefits

The most common reason for a lapse of time between your getting your first monthly benefit, if it comes first, and getting your disability back pay is that the Social Security Administration needs to calculate your Social Security disability benefit considering other benefits you are eligible to receive, such as workers compensation, government pension or Supplemental Security Income. For more information about how workers compensation affects Social Security Disability payment amounts, see our article “Can I Get Workers Compensation and Also Get Social Security Disability?” If you are eligible for Supplemental Security Income, also called SSI, and you received your SSI back pay before your Social Security back pay, your Social Security must be reduced by the amount of SSI you received for the same months that you are eligible to get Social Security. For more information about SSI, please visit our article “What Is Supplemental Security Income and How Is It Different from Social Security Disability?”

Speeding Up Payment of Social Security Disability Back Pay

Calculation and release of back benefits may be speeded up by providing everything the Social Security Administration has asked for, including documentation related to your workers compensation, government pension, and Supplemental Security Income claims. If you have received any type of workers compensation or have a workers compensation claim pending, give Social Security a copy of all the workers comp determination letters you have received. If Social Security is waiting for information directly from your workers comp insurer, you might check with Social Security to see if they have received everything they need and, if not, follow up with workers compensation to get it.

If you did not apply for SSI or you received an SSI denial letter, it is a good idea to contact Social Security about the reason your back benefits have not been released and, if they indicate it is due to calculating the SSI offset, let them know that you either did not apply for or were denied SSI and request release of payment.

If the Social Security Administration says they have what they need and they are working on it, it can be helpful to inquire when they expect to complete their processing and then follow up if you have not received your Social Security Disability back pay by that date.

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1,046 Comments

  1. Cat Stewart says:

    My husband has became disabled in September of 2013. I had tries to apply for SSID on our own and was denied 3 Times before My husband attempted to return to business, after less then 3 month of working he become extremely ill and was hospitalized. At that point I contacted an attorney to help with our claim. The attorney file for September 2013, but when approved social security only went back to November of 2014, is it worth appealing the onset date? Also we have 2 minor children in our home I have been told I can apply for them to recieve benefits aa well, will the children recieve back benefits from the date their dad was determine disabled and could I file for them ourselves or should I allow the attorney to handle that part of the process as well.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cat,

      Your husband will have to decide whether or not to appeal to try to receive an thirteen months of back benefits. I suggest that he discuss the matter with his attorney. You can apply for the children yourself; it is a simple, routine-type application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • angela says:

        my first ssdi check will come on August 12 Iwant receive ssi how long before I receive my back pay

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Angela,

          Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay typically is paid a couple months after monthly benefits start. Also, typically Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits are paid before SSDI benefits, so I am wondering whether you did not qualify financially for SSI, which has an income and asset limit. I suggest that you discuss SSI with your local Social Security office to find out whether you already applied for or were screened for SSI.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  2. Michelle says:

    Dear Kaye I was approved for my disability on March 17th and received my first payment in June and My second in July, my attorney has already been paid their fee and I’m waiting on my back payment of 20k. They’ve already received notice that I will not be getting ssi already and I’ve forwarded them my formal eviction notice along with the rest of my past due bills and still nothing. The gentleman that did the ssi review said I should have already received the back payment but no one else can seem to give me an answer as to what’s going on. My attorney has also spoken to the ss supervisor and they sent a request for immediate release of payment due to my circumstances could you shed some lite on how much longer you think i’ll have to wait please. Thank You, Michelle

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michelle,

      Your local office has no control over when the payment center will release the funds. Delays are due principally to backlogs of work and the claims are processed on a first in-first out basis with some consideration for dire need. However, many disabled people are in your position so even dire-need cases wait in line. While you wait, perhaps you could get a letter from the local office stating that back pay is due (they won’t say how much) so that you can prove to the landlord that you will have money coming in to catch up the rent.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  3. Robin barnes says:

    Hello, I applied for ssd 2/17/15 during this time I have been seeing my neurologist and testing has been ongoing. I have a ton of symtoms inculding headaches from a large spot of lesions on my white matter part of my brain,demyelinating disease, dpression, hand and arm tremors along with a bunch more. I guess the question is, do you think I will get approved without a dx of the white matter lesions. the dr thinks its CADASIL “Cerebral Autosomal-Dominant Arteriopathy with Subcortical Infarcts and Leukoencephalopathy ” and we know for sure its strokes. Im so worried and broke. I talked to the adjudicator a couple days ago and she said they are almost finished with my case but worrying is killing me. Thank you so much for your time, Robin

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robin,

      I can’t predict whether you will be approved, but I can say that the diagnosis does not matter as much as how limiting the symptoms are.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  4. Jeff says:

    Hi . My wife hearing was on 06/19 and she was given a favorable bench aproval, how long will it take for us t receive an award letter and benefits?
    Thanks in advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeff,

      The decision letter is supposed to be mailed within sixty days of the hearing, but sometimes it takes longer. Depending on whether your wife is approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI), it can take from a few weeks to two or three months or more to get payment started after receipt of the letter.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

    • dave james says:

      I was approved back in 2/2015 received my my letter with amount of $29000 in back pay.They paid the law firm that won my case. I have gotten monthly payments since march but no word on back payment. I have called many times but get the run around on who to talk. Its frustrating i need that money to build my Tiny Home
      anyone else waiting that long

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Dave,

        The local office can follow up to the central payment center, but it has no control over when the back pay will be released. Most back payments are made within three months of the monthly benefits starting. You can ask the local office to double check that the payment center is not waiting on SSI information.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

      • J.rodriguez says:

        I was approved in April. Received my first monthly payment in June was told I would see back payment funds in two weeks. Lawyer is paid it’s almost august and still waiting on backpay. I have heard every excuse in the book, and I think they have created a few more.

  5. Robert Wilkinson says:

    I received my first back pay check for $2199 on Feb 11th 2015 can you tell me when my next or second check for back pay will be received? is it july or august im do over 6500.00 so just curious to know will it come in on july 11 or august 11th

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robert,

      Your next Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay is due in August 2015, six months after the first payment. If you do not receive it by the end of August, I suggest following up with your local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Charlene says:

        Kay,
        I received my first back pay check on March 23rd, so will the second one come the 23rd of September or will it be the first of the month with my regular payment? Thanks.

        Charlene

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Charlene,

          The second back payment will be paid sometime in September separately from your monthly payment. If you don’t receive it by the end of September, follow up with your local office.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Stephanie says:

            I got my back payment in dec.16,2014 it is now July 18,2015 I still have not recieve anything. I have called the local office many time and they have not done nothing about it but told me to wait. I’m still wondoring when my second payment comin in.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Stephanie,

            I assume from the information you provided that you were approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI). My response is based on that assumption.

            Apparently, the office is backlogged in their work. If you have not received the payment by the first of August, I suggest going to the office and asking to speak to a supervisor about the delay. (If you are eligible for ongoing monthly benefits, you should be receiving them even though the second installment of back pay is delayed. If you are not eligible for ongoing SSI payments, then all the remainder of the back pay owed should be paid in a single payment.)

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  6. janey says:

    My husband is 100% permanently and totally disabled through the VA and he was approved in Jan for SSD (I believe). SS says the date of onset of his disability was in Jan because that is when he was approved through the VA, but the onset of this was longer ago than that….can we appeal that some way? Also, there is the 5 month waiting period. He will get his first check in Aug and we were told her would not receive any back pay. I have talked to several people who received back pay for the 5 month waiting period, is that possible?

    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Janey,

      No Social Security Disability (SSDI) payment is made for the first five full-calendar months of disability. There is only one exception and that is if the person previously received SSDI and became disabled again within five years of the first period of eligibility ending. Your husband can appeal the established date of disability. He needs to submit medical records or other proofs that show, due to his condition, he was unable to work and earn at least $1,090 gross per month ($1,070 in 2014). Before appealing, it could be helpful to obtain a copy of his claim file to see the exact reasons for why the claim was approved with a January 2015 onset.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • samd619 says:

        Hi Kay,
        My husband was told the same thing about no backpay. He applied for SSDI on 3/2015 he got approved for on 6/3/2015. We received an award letter stating that he is disabled on 3/14/2015. We called SS and they said we have a 5 months waiting period before he gets his first monthly paycheck in Oct which I understand, but I don’t why he won’t,get the backpay from when he became disabled from 3/14/2015. Other people we spoke to that has only SSDI received backpay.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sam,

          The first five full-calendar months of disability are unpaid. In your husband’s circumstances, April through August are unpaid. September benefits are paid in October. The only exception is for people who become disabled a second time within five years of the termination of their first period of disability benefits.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  7. Mike says:

    I was awarded SSD and received my first payment 6/2015. I will be getting back pay for approx 3 years which I was told amounts to close to 70k. How long will it take to receive all of the back pay and how much/ how long?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mike,

      I have no information about the amount of your back pay. It will probably be August or September before you receive it or maybe longer. The large amount owed may be high enough that it will require two reviews and approvals before it is released.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • henrietta goodson says:

        if my daughter is approve this time her ssi back payment will come instillments but will she get the back pay off me at one time. and can she get medicare with her benefits along with medicaid.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Henrietta,

          If your daughter receives benefits on your earnings record, her back pay will come in a single payment. She will become eligible for Medicare after she has received twenty-four months of disability benefits on your record.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

    • Jennifer says:

      Hi, my dad finally after 5 years got approved for ssd. He received his first letter December 2014 stating he was approved and that he will be getting his first monthly check by Feb 2015. He also received a letter about his back pay that will come of 40k. He did receive his first check on February 2015. We are now in July why has he not received anything from his back pay? He keeps going to his local social security office and all they kept saying it should be here no later than late June. Well look at it we are now in July and nothing. We have contacted his lawyer and nithing . No phone call from him or nothing. What is our other option?

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jennifer,

        It is typical that the attorney’s involvement ends with the medical approval. You can ask your local office to send a follow-up message to the payment center, but the local office has no control over how long it takes for the money to be released. Note that the very large amount may require two reviews and two approvals.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

  8. Rick says:

    Social Security says my brother needs a payee to receive SSDI payments. He doe not want a payee and can handle his own finances. They want me to be the payee and I don’t wish to be. Is there away to not have to have a payee?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rick,

      If your brother is mentally, emotionally, and physically capable of regularly and reliably paying for his basic expenses of shelter, food, medical and dental care, clothing before spending money on other things, then he might talk with his physician. If the physician agrees, your brother could request that the doctor complete an SSA-787, which can be obtained online.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  9. daivd says:

    on my social security online account it says on 5/5 onetime payment was made by paper check (my back payments they owe me from the waiting time) how long will it take for me to receive that payment in the mail. it has been 4 days. is 5/5 the date it was mailed out or the date they processed the check.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear David,

      May 5 may be the day the payment was authorized and the authorization may have to go through multiple overnight computer runs before the check is actually printed and mailed. How long the mail will take depends where you live. If you have not received it by about the fifteenth, report non-receipt to your local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  10. John Hebert says:

    Hi. I was approved on April 3, 2015. I am owed 14 months of Disability back pay and a one time SSI payment according to the worker who processed my claim. My question is this: when will I receive the large -back pay amount? I was told by a local SS worker that it would be 7-10 days almost a month ago. I was told today by a different worker on the national 800 number it could be 2 more months. How can they get away with owing someone money for over a year, and when finally ordered to pay (in my case by administrative law judge) taking their sweet time to pay. I am 3 days from having my electricity cut off

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      The representative who told you seven to ten days was probably hoping to be able to get the processing of the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay done by then and hasn’t been able to get back to it. I suggest that you go to your local office and speak to the representative. Tell her about the electric bill and ask if she can complete the computer processing while she waits.

      Also contact the electric company and tell them that you are disabled. Some states have laws that utilities cannot be turned off on someone who is disabled. Tell them that you can show proof that you have been found disabled by the Social Security Administration and are awaiting release of benefits. Say that you will get a letter from the representative that says you are due a large back payment; then try to get that letter from the representative to show the power company that you will have enough funds to catch up your bill.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  11. Deirdra Pallone says:

    My son was approved for SSD, decision was made rather quickly. I spoke to a local Social Security worker as he processed my son’s claim for the back pay monies and monthly benefits. He touched base with me yesterday and said the case has been paid, but the computers were interfacing and it could take up to 3 business days before I receive payment? That to me doesn’t sound right? Also he was not able to tell me the amount he will receive monthly or in back pay? Please help, I am really struggling financially and fearing that I will not get my rent paid on the 1st. Thank you, Ms. Pallone

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Deirdra,

      Lag time for computer runs is quite possible. Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits are not authorized locally so if payment is in mid-processing, it is possible that the local representative cannot see payment amounts. (Your posting is a bit confusing to me because SSD would be paid to a disabled adult, but you talk about paying your rent. If you are your son’s payee and he is an adult, his funds should be used to pay only his share of rent, house utilities, and food.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  12. Jhemill Gordon says:

    I was Fully Favorable approved for Social Security on March 03, 2015 by Judge decision of Office of Disability Adjudication and Review SSA ODAR Hearing Ofice, and the decision is from January 3, 2012 as today.
    When i will get first check, maybe next month of May?

    Thanks in advance!!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jhemill,

      It can take two months or more for Social Security Disability (SSDI) to start so you might receive a first monthly payment in May. Back pay usually takes one to two months longer.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  13. Aby Torres says:

    The decision was made on April 9, 2015.

  14. Aby Torres says:

    Hi, i have a question. I was fully approved for SS.
    The letter said:
    Based on the aplication for a period of disability and disability insurance benefits protectively filed on August 8, 2012, the claimant has been disable under section 216(i) and 223(d) of the Social Security Act since January 9, 2012.
    When i received my first ck and the retroactive??

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Aby,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits will begin to accrue June 2012. If the letter was a judge’s decision and you did not also apply for for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), it will likely be one to two months before you receive the first month’s benefits and another couple months before you receive the back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  15. Sharese says:

    My son was approved to receive auxillary benefits from his dad and a nice lump sum of back pay. The rep I spoke with told me the back pay amount will be deposited into my account within 7 to 10 days. Just wondering is it really 7 to 10 days.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharese,

      Although time frames vary a great deal, in part related on how close the payment was to being issued when you applied to be payee for your child, at present there is no reason to question the time frame you were given.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  16. luis says:

    I FILED FOR DISABILTY IN NOV 2014 RECEIVED LETTER WAS APPROVED WILL GET FIRST CHECK IN JUNE 2015 WHEN WILL BACKPAY BE PAID HARD NO INCOME CANT WORK ON OXYGEN 24/7 IM 47 YEARS OLD WAS CURIOUS

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Luis,

      If you are eligible for Social Security Disability back pay (the first five full calendar months of disability are not paid), it can take two months or more after monthly benefits start to get the back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  17. Barb says:

    Hi,
    I have a quick question. My husband became disabled (no longer worked d/t moderate cognitive impairment) in 2011 at age 61. He took early retirement at 62. It took a while to diagnose, because symptoms were very similar to depression at first, but he was finally diagnosed with Picks Disease (early onset frontal temporal dementia) in Jan 2014. I applied for disability for him since he can no longer do things for himself. They found him disabled starting Jan 2014. He received retirement SS, $1,170 from Jan 2014 to Dec 2014, but on his statement it says he received disability for $1,385 for that time frame. He had no deductions. Since there is a difference of $215 that he didn’t receive that entire year would we receive backpay for it? I am just curious??? Thank you so very much!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Barb,

      Yes, your husband should receive the difference between the reduced retirement and the higher disability benefit for the months of overlapping eligibility. It can take two or three months after the monthly disability benefits start to have the back pay released.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Nicole says:

        Hi Kay, my child was recently approved for his ssi and the worker in the office told me that she was releasing payments for the last couple of months on today (4/10/15), and that my child’s back pay would be released tomorrow (4/11/15) which of course is a Saturday. Well, when I contacted the 800# they said that they don’t see anything reflecting funds being released. I even contacted the US Treasury, they mentioned the same thing. My bank also said they see nothing pending. They released the attorney fees yesterday (4/9/15) an he said his deposited this morning. So is it possible for funds to be deposited even if its not reflected in the system.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nicole,

          Releasing funds may actually take make more than a single over-night computer run in the Social Security and Treasury systems and more than a single run in the bank’s system. There are no bank runs on Saturday and Sunday and may be none in the government departments. I’d say to give it a week before following up.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  18. Sue says:

    Unlike most people I was fortunate and received my back pay for SSDI with no problems. (By the time I got my letter it was already in the bank.)I will begin receiving my monthly check in April.
    I was/am on Medicaid? I was wondering will I be kicked off of Medicaid now because the back pay check deposited in my checking account? Is is considered part of my income for this year? I do have Medicare but I have heard they don’t pay well.
    I will only be making around $700 a month and medicare is getting around $100 of that.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sue,

      Please clarify whether you also filed a claim and have received Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits. Also, it would be helpful to have the gross amount of your Social Security before withholding and whether or not you are married and living with a spouse who has income. Those bits of information will help me to comment on whether you are likely to continue to have Medicaid coverage.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  19. Susan says:

    I fought for my Disability for 5 years, I finally got approved the first week of October. I finally started receiving monthly pymts in February, though I am thankful for this, I have yet to get my back pay and it has been 6 months nearly. Is there a maximum time limit they have to pay back pay. my wedding is next month and I think we are going to be forced to reschedule it because we never dreamed it would take this long to get the back pay when we set our date.

    Thank You for any information you are able to give me.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Susan,

      Social Security has time guidelines for processing; however, the reality of heavy workloads caused by understaffing results in the time frames not always being met. It can take another two to three months to receive the back pay after the monthly benefits start, especially if you are due a large amount of benefits for five years.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  20. Vicky says:

    Hello, Can someone help me with a few questions? First I applied for disabilty in October 2013 then I reapplied in February of 2014 I was just approved a few weeks back,and on my papers the judge said I was disabled since December 31 of 2012 I was unable to work from that date. How do they do back payments? I understand they only go back for a year,but I wasn’t sure why he went back so far. Also my daughter turn 19 this past December will she get any back pay? Thank you,Vicky

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Vicky,

      The judge determines the date your disability began independently of the date you applied. Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits begin the later of the sixth full calendar month of disability or twelve months prior to the date of application. Therefore, your benefits will begin to accrue May 2013.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  21. D Schrader says:

    Hi, I was awarded in May 2014, and have been receiving monthly benefits, but am still waiting and fighting constantly for my back pay of $41,000. Apparently they say that I checked a box on the application form for “this is a work related injury” (which it was not work related – and the SSDI/SSI form was filled out by an outreach worker at DSHS who may have made the mistake.) In any case, they are telling me that ‘I was receiving workers comp for state disability’ ( which I never did) and need documentation of the amount before they can pay me back pay. I cannot provide any documentation since there wasn’t any! I have wrote letters explaining there isn’t workers comp involved, I’ve talked to customer service, and went down in person to SSA and they all say that “the info has been put through.” I’ts now going on a year and I still haven’t received any back pay, and my payments are being garnished by the IRS for owing back taxes – and I really need the money to pay them due to the interest…..

    To make things worse; I just received a 1099 from SSA stating that “I DID” receive my backpay this year in 2014 (and it was deducted immediately for workers comp offset of $32,000) and $7,200 was paid to my lawyer, leaving me nothing…except I have to pay taxes on this now, when I didn’t even receive anything.
    1. How can they deduct $32,000 for something they don’t even have an amount for – since I don’t owe Workers comp??
    2. My lawyer says they never received payment of $7,200 either, as the 1099 states they did. On top of that, my lawyer’s contract was for a max of $6,000 as per stated law, which they also agree on since last we spoke this month.

    I feel like this is fraud! And I don’t know what to do. SSA reps tell me that they cannot speak directly to the payment processing center, nor can I call them directly…and that I have to just wait and “hope” they correct the amounts…. How can this be? I know I can’t be the first person that’s had this issue… and why can’t they just verify through workers comp that I have never had a claim? I was homeless for years during this whole application process, never receiving any money from the state except food stamps. And my lawyer is absolutely no help when I call them now, since the case has already been awarded technically. They said they would call the processing center last week, but I haven’t heard anything back at all. I expected them to be more helpful since they still need their payment for the case.

    Please help direct me on the route I need to take to get this corrected. I’m so buried in tax and interest for my all hospital debt, I really need to get this resolved. Thank you in advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dave,

      Contact your state’s workers compensation bureau and get a letter that you have never received workers compensation. Try filing a request for reconsideration of the calculation of your back pay. In a sense the 1099 is a formal determination of how the claim was calculated, so you should be able to file an appeal; in fact, technically, they cannot keep your from filing an appeal State in the appeal that you have not gotten workers comp and that you are submitting a letter from the workers comp office to prove that and that you want your full back pay released. As part of your appeal, request that a corrected 1099-SSA be issued, showing only the monthly benefits paid, which will probably be the gross amount before the withholding for your tax debt. Keep a copy of everything you submit. All of this will likely go to the payment center, but at least you will be in the appeals system, and if they don’t get it corrected properly and send another incorrect determination as a response to your appeal, you can request a hearing.

      As far as attorney fees go, $6,000 is the maximum per benefit obtained. If you received any Supplemental Security Income (SSI) before the Social Security started or dependent benefits were awarded for your children, the total amount for all benefits awarded could be higher than $6,000.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Cory says:

        I too received a letter from ss saying my back pay was on hold for workers comp benefits. I contacted my local office and they pulled up nothing all the way back to 2001. My attorney along with ss sent me paperwork to fill out saying I have never filed. I’m still waiting for backpay as well. Fully favorable later part of March 2015, June 3rd 2015 award letter. First monthly will be July 22, 2015, is it possible to get first month and back pay at the same time?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Cory,

          Typically Social Security Disability back pay is paid one to three months after the first monthly payment; however, it varies.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  22. roger says:

    Thank Go Got My Fully Favorable Letter and then someone called from Missouri to get me set up on payments the same day! Good Luck to everyone i know it’s a Difficult process but the end line fight for whats yours! God Bless Everyone! And Kay Thank you For everything!

  23. veronica bolyard says:

    I have been getting the run around from SSI for the last 4 weeks about my sons final back payment that was due January. I was told multiple things. First, I was told that I should get a letter and have his final back payment by the end of the month. I then was advised that it could be 45 days from the end of January. I could not understand how that was true when he already receive his first back payment January 2013, then his second in July 2013 without any issues. I finally called the local office and obtained his caseworkers name, we moved from Pa to Md in August and I was never advised who his new caseworker was. Then I called and left her a message, because actually speaking with her seems near impossible. I did not receive a call back and called again. At that time the rep told me she was working the front desk taking new applicants. Of course I am extremely frustrated. How can she take new applicants, yet can not even process her own caseload?!?! The rep advised to give her until she get off the front desk and hopefully she could call me back. I did not recieve a call back, again. It is now February and my sons back payment has yet to even be acknowledge via a letter, a call and not depoisted in his account. I even attempted to call my sons lawyer for advice, but have not got a call back. I dont know what I should do, but I need to get numerous things for my son who I support on my own and I just recently got a job at our new location. We are trying to get his own room together to transition him to sleep in his own bed and we have a service dog set up for him. We did it under the impression that his back payment would be on time, but now we are finding otherwise. There are other things for education that we have on our list for him, that the back money will be going to as well. What should I do? I am afraid if I throw to big of a fuss they will just make us wait longer and we need to have the money for his service dog and things ordered for his room within the next two weeks. Pleas any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Veronica,

      No one asking to file a new claim can be turned away and approved, unpaid claims are paid before time is allocated for back payments. That said, I suggest that, if possible, you go to the Social Security office and explain the situation of needing the money by the end of the two weeks to pay for the rest of the things that are part of your son’s treatment plan. Ask to have the back payment released while you wait. (The person you speak to is probably not the person who has to do it.) If you are told no, ask to speak to a supervisor and explain that same things over again on why you need the money by a certain time.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  24. Brenda says:

    I was approved for Disability in Dec 2014 with Retro to June 19 2012 filing date of Nov 2012. I started receiving my monthly benefit for Dec 2014 in Jan 2015. My question is this:
    During the time I was waiting for my hearing for ALJ, I applied for public assistance. I was aware that if my Disability claim was approved I would owe Public Assistance (NYC) monies and they would take it from the back pay/retro that I would receive. How long does this process usually take approximately?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Brenda,

      You will repay public assistance if you are approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay; it will not be withheld from Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits. It can take a month to two months to get the SSI back pay issued and another one to three months to get Social Security back pay, which will be reduced by SSI back benefits paid for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  25. Pedro Labarta says:

    kay i went to my hearing on 10/27/2014 and it was a favorable decision but i still havent gotten my backpay yet and no award letter my attorney said to give it 60 or 90 days for it is that true.

  26. Elissa Ray says:

    I was awarded my SSD in September of 2014. I received my award letter stating what my monthly payments were going to be and that I was awarded benefits back to my original filing date of 2010. Of course, they took my lawyers fees off the top of my back due benefits. So I received a letter from my attorney that my file now will be closed. That’s great because now I am here on my own trying to get my back due benefits. I have received my monthly checks but when I call about back due benefits I have been told not to call back that it is with the processing center and don’t bother going to my local office because there is nothing they can do about it. What gives I can’t work and it’s a lot of money. They can’t even give me an estimate when it may be processed. If anyone has any ideas on what I can do I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elisa,

      Attorneys are not involved after the medical approval is obtained. It typically takes three months or more after Social Security monthly benefits start to get the back pay. If you have a fairly large monthly benefit, your total back pay for approximately four years could be large enough that it will require more than one authorization to release it and more time will be involved. The local office can send a follow-up memo to the payment center, but it won’t speed anything up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  27. Rita Dahnert says:

    I have been approved to receive SSDI since Nov 2009 and have been waiting for my backpay for 3 months now. I have contacted social security and all they say is “its being worked on”. How much longer do I have to wait? I have bills that need to be taken care of.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rita,

      It can take three months after monthly benefits start to get your back pay. The Payment Center is very backed up.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  28. roger says:

    Hi kay just called odar and they said my case is in editing? How long do you think it will before i hear something?

  29. Maria G. says:

    hi there

    i was resently aproved for back pay. i went to an appointment and they said i was granted some money. how long after my appointment should i expect a check in the mail?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Maria,

      Social Security benefits can take three months or more to start. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) usually runs one to three months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  30. roger says:

    hi kay been over 30 days with decision writer why does it take so long???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      Pretty much every step of the claim and appeals process has backlogs due to under-staffing.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  31. Frustrated says:

    My husband passed away from an agressive cancer that qualified him for expedited processing of his claim. He submitted his claim for SSD 10/1/14, he died 10/26, they approved his claim 10/27. They did tell me that his cancer qualified in 1/2013 when he was first diagnosed, then a 5 month waiting period, so they owe payments from 7/2013 until his death for SSD, then survivor benefits for the kids. They keep telling me that this is “in the processing center” and someone is “working on it”. I’ve been told this will be a large payment and that is why it is taking so long, but I have yet to receive any written notifications that anything is coming or approved. How long after a death do children normally have to wait to start receiving survivor benefits? They said since my DH has now passed away, his back SSD payments cannot be made to me they will be made to the children ???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Frustrated,

      It takes about three months for back pay Social Security to be released. If you haven’t received it within another month, you can ask your local office to send a follow-up memo. The survivor benefits will be calculated and paid after the worker’s (your husband’s) benefits are released. Underpayments are paid first to persons entitled to benefits on the deceased’s account. If you are not working and earning too much to receive benefits and at least one of your children is under age sixteen, you could apply as a young mother and receive benefits until your youngest turns sixteen. That would also qualify you to receive some or all of the back pay.

      In 2015, the first $15,720 gross earnings doesn’t affect benefits; in 2014 the amount was $15,480 and in 2013, $15,120. For every two dollars earned above that amount annual benefits are reduced by $1.00.

      The back pay for your children can be put back for future college or trade-school education for them or to cover expenses that monthly benefits won’t cover such as orthodontia work or other special needs. Or, if need be some of it can be used to supplement their curren needs including their share of housing and food costs.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  32. Felisha says:

    Hello,
    My son was awarded SSI and SSDI in June 2014. He started receiving a
    monthly benefit in September. He also has a sister who is already on SSI and SSDI and we received several notices making adjustments between payments to both of them due to a maximum benefit per family as I understand it with SSDI. This has gone back and forth since
    them with letters about overpayment to one with deductions from one child then from the other. When we talk to the local social security office they don’t seem to be able to explain what is going on or when these adjustments will end. In addition, my son has never received back pay although a letter was sent in August stating that he would receive $10,000 minus attorneys fees. We hope we will not be like many others waiting for years for this to be settled. Is there no one who we can contact besides the local office who can explain to us what is going on?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Felisha,

      You reference SSDI for both your son and daughter, but you also talk about a family maximum applying to them. Therefore, I assume that your children are receiving dependent benefits on your or their father’s earnings record. My response is based on that assumption.

      Your son will eligible for Social Security back pay if the family maximum is more than his sister is receiving; however the back pay will be only the difference between her benefit and the family maximum and it will be further reduced by any Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay paid out for months that overlap with the Social Security. The Social Security is usually paid after the SSI is paid.

      If both your son and daughter are minors, your daughter’s SSI will be recalculated to consider two disabled children in the household. If they are adults, their SSI will be calculated independently. Typically SSI is paid before Social Security.

      Please note that the information I am giving you is general, so for specifics you will have to depend on award and notice-of-change letters and your efforts to get explanations from the local office.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  33. JDD says:

    I had applied for disability for father after he was not cleared for work after two years. He passed away before he completed the approval process. They deemed I would receive his benefits of twelve months back pay plus the three months he was alive waiting approval. I received a check for a small fraction of what was owed. Is there a reason for this? The math adds up so that it looks like it might be just for the three months from filing date. Is it safe to assume the twelve months of back pay is still to come?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear JDD,

      I suggest that you contact Social Security and ask for an explanation, but here are some thoughts to consider. The information you are giving me doesn’t line up well because SSDI is usually paid in a single lump sum. When a person is approved for Social Security Disability (SSDI), his benefit begins to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after his established date of disability and twelve months before the date of application. Benefits would end the month before the month of his death.

      On the other hand, three times the monthly amount sounds like a Supplemental Security Income (SSI) installment payment on back pay. This raises the question of whether you said “father” as an informal name actually referring to your husband. The reason I ask this is that SSI does not pay underpayments to surviving children. If the benefits are indeed SSI, then you need to ask to have the full back pay released, which is possible because your deceased relative is not eligible for ongoing benefits. It is also possible that he was approved for both SSDI and SSI and that the SSI is being paid first. If this is the case the SSDI will be reduced by SSI paid for overlapping months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  34. Dan S. says:

    Help! I have filed for SSD and SSI both, I have a Nero problem causing loss of movement in left side due to a tumar that can only be diagnosed with a biopsy that will cause blindness. I was denied and appealed, hearing was in jan 2014. My attorney sent the last of my records last month. The judge reviewed my case last week per his assistant. Everything I’m reading hear leads me to believe even if I’m approved it could likely be months before I see payment. Based on my original file date I was told my benefits including SSI could be and estimated $2700 monthly. Recently I’ve thought this could be a potential backpay of as much as $50-$60k after the 5month process they take away. Yet I see people hear mentioning only getting a few thousand. This leaves me wondering if my calculations are correct. Secondly my father In law who is graced with enough retirement that he has literally payed my bills the past two years after I maxed out my credit cards. Will this be included in my income regarding the money given by him, or can I document as a loan to avoid it affectingly backpay. I plan to pay him back with the backpay. Also I’ve considered dropping my Ssi claim to avoid delaying my ssd the refilling for Ssi. Would you recommend this? I have contacted everyone to get these answered however Ssi offices won’t answer without and award letter what I should do and my attorney hasn’t returned my call in months.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dan,

      You do need to consult with your attorney. There may be something in your agreement with your attorney that prohibits dropping the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) claim. If you are eligible for $2,700 a month in Social Security benefits, you will not be eligible for SSI once they start. If you had a repayment agreement with your father, you can present that agreement to Social Security for your SSI claim. (The help from your father does not affect your Social Security claim.)

      You can get close to the correct figure of back pay by multiplying the number of months between when benefits would start times $2,700 per month. The result will be a little high but fairly close. Social Security benefits start the later of the sixth full calendar month of disability and twelve months before the date of the initial application that is now under appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  35. Pamela says:

    Dear Kay
    My son has been approved for SSI, he is 10yrs old now, was 9 then, for ADHD & PTSD back in May I just started receiving his monthly payments in October because the case manager takes her own precious time about her cases( everyone) complains about her. She said it will be three(3) payments and I just received one of his back pay payments of $2100 and she says that she can’t release another small payment until six months from then and I really don’t know when the last one will be sent, I understand it is a waiting game but she is being ridiculous!! Besides, during the times I was appealing his case, over and over for two years, I had to borrow money from several people to pay his medicines off bc his insurance would only pay some leaving me to pay anywhere from $60 to $187 and a couple times in the $200 and I’m indebted because of that and need to pay these people back and that is no more than right. If they found him to be disabled during those times then I should be able to pay them from his back pay!! Is there a way I can appeal how she is dispensing his backpay? I keep asking her for a letter stating how it will be dispersed and she has refused to give me a letter she only gives me evidence of his monthly payments which I explained to her that is NOT what I’m asking for! Please tell me what should I do or what can I do about this situation?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pamela,

      The law requires that large SSI back payments be issued in up to three installments six months apart. The first two cannot exceed $2,163 each. There are some circumstances that allow release of early installments. One is repayment of medical debts. I suggest that you request release of a certain amount owed for your son’s medication. You will need specific figures and to whom the money is owed. Usually such debts are owed to the provider and not private parties, but it is worth a try.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  36. roger says:

    Hi Kay ty for everything so far i called ODAR office today i am in in Decision writing now been there 2 days hopefully the writer is fast need to get help before christmas i am so broke i can not pay attention :-(

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      The formal decision is close to reaching you, but it is unlikely that you will receive benefits this month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  37. roger says:

    Dear Kay,
    i was told my case is with unassigned writer and i should have my award letter in 2 weeks or less,does this timeline seem right?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      Time frames vary greatly depending on the workloads at the time. Hopefully, your hearing office gave an accurate estimate based on the office’s current demands.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  38. arnold carpenter says:

    Hey i requested some of my back pay can any one tell me how long it takes.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Arnold,

      I assume that you requested more than the usual installment of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay due to financial hardship. If so, it can take from a couple of weeks to a month. I suggest following up if you have received anything in a month.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  39. roger says:

    why don’t you answer me

  40. Alicia Carter says:

    My husband was approved for SSD back in January, he started receiving regular payments in July but we have still not received his back pay. We were told by the manager in our local office that his back pay was released to him and it would take 2 weeks to get. we waited two weeks and called the local office again and she said it would take about 30 days. It has been over 30 days and we have still not received anything. When they say 30 days do they mean 30 working days? I have not been able to get ahold of the manager that released the payment. We have been told it was released, but at this point that’s all we know.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Alicia,

      The local Social Security office does not release Social Security back payments. The authorization is made in the payment center. The local office is likely passing on what they have been told. Since you are being told that the payment has been sent, I suggest trying to file a report of non-receipt of payment to see if that gets you anywhere.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  41. I just posted to your website but left out one more question, am I eligible for SSI between the periods of Date of onset to Date of Eligibility. Am I eligible for SSI for the five month waiting period before my SSDI starts.
    Thank you in Advance

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeffry,

      If you applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) on the same date you applied for Social Security and you meet the financial qualifications, you will be eligible for SSI from the month after the month of application through the month before your Social Security is actually paid. Your Social Security back pay will then be reduced by the amount of SSI back pay you receive for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  42. Hello,
    I am a disabled veteran and am receiving a small monthly disability check. I started having seizures in October of 2010 and had memory issues for all of 2011. I was involved in a rollover accident in April of 2012 and injured pretty severely though it wasn’t diagnosed until July of 2012. I waited 9 months for the VA availability to see a spine specialist and was immediately operated on in March of 2013. I filed for disability in February of 2013 in the State of FL and was denied in May of 2013. I filed for a reconsider and was denied in July of 2013. I obtained an attorney and filed for an ALJ hearing. I received an offer for a video hearing from an ALJ in July of 2014, my attorney recommended that I turn down the offer and ask for an in person ALJ hearing. I finally got my hearing on November 5th of 2014 and was found Fully Favorable at the end of the hearing. With Veterans Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas I expect though and dreading even further delays. I do owe the IRS $700 dollars but have been unable to pay them. I havent filed in 3 years but I don’t owe them any additional monies since I havent earned any. With all the math and considerations, should they set my Date of Eligability back a year from my filing date and then add five months for the waiting period. Or will they go back to the Date of Onset and then add the five months to that. Sorry for the length of the email but this should answer many questions for people that have many of the variables that I have.
    thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jeffry,

      Your Social Security Disability benefits will begin to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after the date of disability established by Social Security or twelve months prior to the date of your original application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  43. roger says:

    November 19th 2014 i got fully favorable bench decision for social security Disability i am in cleveland texas i have no money so after judge approved me i sent in a dire needs letter will this help me get my benefits faster?

    • roger says:

      i do not owe any money to anyone like child support etc

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Roger,

      You may get your benefits a bit faster than without the statement. Before you receive payment the judge has to finalize the decision with a written determination and then a letter to you has to be prepared and signed by the judge. After that additional actions have to be taken by the local Social Security office and the payment to process payment. This translates into the likelihood that you will not receive benefits for a couple months or more.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  44. Kristen says:

    Hello my mom filed for ssd in April 2014 and got approved for benefits Oct 22 2014. She hasnt heard anything about back pay , will she get any back pay ? She owes over 3,000 to people she borrowed from family to help pay bills while she was out of work waiting for here disability.. So will she receive any back pay ?

    • Kristen says:

      She got her first check Oct 22 2014 *

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristen,

      I need additional information to answer your question.
      1. What date of disability did Social Security approve?
      2. Did she apply for Social Security Disability (SSDI) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or both?
      3. Is she really expected to pay the money back? If so, were there any written repayment agreements?

      Thanks,
      Kay

      • Kristen says:

        She applied for SSDI only and my mother said when she got her back pay she would pay them back no written agreements. Im not sure when she got approved she just got her first check October 22, 2014.

        • Kristen says:

          She was approved March 28th 2014.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Given that your mother applied only for SSDI, her benefits will begin to accrue the later of the sixth full calendar month after the date of disability onset Social Security approved (not the date on which they made the decision) or twelve months prior to the date of application.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Kristen,

          Social Security Disability (SSDI) is paid based on disability and on having enough work credits. Only workers compensation and certain public disability pensions affect SSDI benefit amounts. Your sister’s loans and income will not change her benefits and do not have to be reported.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Kristen says:

            if she got her first check from SSDI October 22nd 2014 does that mean she will not recieve any backpay ?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Typically, monthly benefits start before SSDI back pay is issued. Please also see my reply to your earlier question.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

          • Kristen says:

            How long does the SSDI back pay take ?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Kristen,

            Back pay for Social Security Disability is running about three months and longer if Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is also involved.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  45. Krishley says:

    Hello Kay,

    My daughter was receiving SSI for prematurity(low birth rate) and the SSA stopped her payments in May 2014, I received a letter prior to that stating that the payments will stop and I could file an appeal, in which I did, bu I did not receive anything stating benefits could continue until a final decision is made. So her disability examiner mentioned it to me about a week ago so I went and applied for benefits to continue. Do you know how long that may take since basically it was their fault that the letter was not in the package of papers I was sent in the mail?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Krishley,

      I can’t say for sure how long it might take for benefits to start; it could be a week or a month, assuming your daughter is eligible for payment continuation. Ordinarily for benefits to continue during appeal, you have to request continuation within ten days of the date of the letter. I suggest that you read all the letters over carefully to be sure that there was not a sentence in the appeal rights paragraph that notified you. If there was, benefits may not be restarted until the appeal is complete.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  46. Raven says:

    Alright. You are answering questions in comments. So I will post one. The person I care about has been severely disabled since he was 5 years old. But he was denied backpay, and is receiving an extremely small monthly check. The disability is very total so that he needs a wheelchair, and has had this same disability since he was 5. What do we do in order to get the backpay which was not given to him nor approved?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Raven,

      It sounds as if your friend receives Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits. The maximum back pay goes back to the month after the month in which the SSI application was filed, not to the date the person became disabled. I suggest that you contact the Easter Seal Society or other non-profit organizations to see whether one of them can help your friend get a wheelchair if he cannot get it through his Medicaid coverage.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  47. Pete says:

    I received a notice of Fully Favorable decision for SSD signed by the ALJ on Sept 25th 2014. My date of disability onset is Sept 1, 2012 (approved). There will be back pay of 21 months of disability (26 month minus 5 month waiting period). I have not received anything else from SSA since that time. I have contacted my local SSA and am told that my claim is in the payment center (Chicago) awaiting processing. I have no over payments, unemployment, owed taxes, ssi (did not qualify), attorney fees or owed money of any form. I sent in my information for direct deposit with my application.
    I do not know what to expect next. Will I receive a letter, payment mailed, payment direct deposited, or a phone call first? And how long might that take? The ALJ expedited the decision in my case, but I am told that the payment center will not expedite it. My local SSA emailed the payment center to ask for expedited service but I am told that they never responded back.
    Any help you can give me would be more information than I have already received from SSA.
    Thanks you in advance.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pete,

      I don’t have much more information than you have already received. It can take three months to get payments started. You may receive a direct deposit to your bank account of the regular monthly benefit before you get a letter, which should follow within a week to ten days. The back pay can take a couple or three months longer.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  48. Scott says:

    I was approved after 4 years and after appealing the AL judge I ended up getting the same judge for my appeal. We did not enter any additional medical evidence nothing had changed. The judge approved me after he had a career specialist present for the 2nd appeal hearing on the appeal that said no jobs were available for me. Now my question is why didn’t he have them there the at first hearing or at least the first appeal hearing before he made his decision ? I feel as if this judge has hurt me financially by not using all resources provided to him and making his decision. I waited 2 more years just for the final second appeal hearing with the Career specialist. Sure I’m gonna get back pay but as the saying goes to little to late.. people lose houses, cars, etc. while waiting for the approval. Isn’t there any ramification for a blatant miss call ?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Scott,

      Your appeal was successful because the judge made a mistake. You will be paid based on the original application and the date of disability that is accepted. Your benefits will begin the later of the sixth calendar month after the accepted date of disability or twelve months before the date of your original application that has been under appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  49. Matthew says:

    I was concurrent and had a lot of back pay in mid 2013 (8yrs and federal court win). I am currently receiving my monthly amount, In early Aug I got a letter stating they had held out 25% and asked if my lawyer wanted to collect anymore etc.. My lawyer had declined as they had been paid (from me and the back pay) .. this was over 3 months ago. They had also sent a letter declining further payment (was sent and confirmed by my representative and lawyer two days after I received it) My case was sent in Aug to the payment center to be released however that’s the last anything was done. I don’t owe any bills, taxes etc. My local office rep has sent some notices seeking comment and all they got was “still processing”. They then did a manger to manager contact and basically got a “need more time to process”. Now granted I feel for new people as I suffered greatly for many years and ended up in federal court to win my case, but at this point I’m established and have automatic deposit and there’s really nothing to do. How can they just be allowed to say a cookie cutter “need more time” without a reasonable explanation. How am I to get these funds released? My lawyer has basically said they are done with things, and my representative said can check in a few more months after the manger to manger response.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Matthew,

      You and your local office have done all you can do. When a very large amount of back pay is due, it has to be reviewed and signed off by two individuals before it is released. The “more time” required is probably a matter of your claim waiting its turn after the claims of others that have been approved before yours.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  50. Stephanie says:

    How long do it take u to receive back pay payments..? I approved in August 2014but November 2014 was when I go my first payment

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stephanie,

      If your claim is for SSI benefits, you should have at least the first installment of back pay in about a month. If your claim is for Social Security Disability (SSDI), it can take up to three months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Stephanie says:

        I done opened up my decided account, I was told every time I received a payment that money was supposed to go in my back pay account.. I been waiting 2years ,finally got approved in Aug …y does it take to months to receive my back payment?

  51. jenny says:

    Does it mean I got approved for ssi if my husband is on ssi and they stopped his ssi direct deposit and sent him a check instead. He called and asked why they did that and they said because of a decision with my case but didnt tell me what. Oh forgot to put I applied in september.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenny,

      The situation you describe seems to indicate that you have been approved and your SSI and your husband’s SSI will be calculated at the couple rate.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  52. J.P. says:

    Hello Kay I am still waiting on your response thank you for any information on this matter..

  53. Shannon says:

    Hello. Several questions. I received fully favorable decision Sept 2014 for ssi & ssd. I received the approval letter from ssa about my monthly ssi benefit, backpay for ssi etc. Ssa letter also stated they would pay social services back 1st, then my attorney, &finally me whatever was left.
    Received my ssi monthly payment Oct 1st. Then received approx $1200 on 17th. Today $2100 was deposited. Why 2 deposits & for what, ssi backpay? Yes, I was expecting backpay for ssi & ssd. But no letter from ssd yet.
    Also, my two children live with their father since before my disability, &I pay child support and am up to date/current etc. The worker at ssa said my children are likely toget $ too & she asked for their address etc.. Why, if their father has full custody & I am current on support do they get monies due me? If they are in fact entitled to benefits, which does that come out of (ssd backpay?), how much, how often, to whom does $ go to? I’ve asked ssa these questions & they don’t give answers… just say ill get info in mail. Nothing yet, just 2small deposits.
    Last, after reading a lot of these, I am confused as to backpay for ssd, (when & if it comes) will be less because I got ssi backpay? Pls explain. Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shannon,

      My guess is that the $1,200 on the 17th is your regular monthly Social Security payment and that the $2100 is your SSI back pay or the first installment of the back pay; however, I can’t be sure. You should get letters of explanation within about a week; however in the meantime you can call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 and ask what each payment is.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  54. J.P. says:

    Thank you ,so I’m required to sign him up for dependent benefits?? I was wishing I didn’t have to and just sign up his older brother instead of him.. I guess that means he will get less money and have to split 600 plus dollars with his brother and his back pay he would have to pay back for recieving His share of back pay off his father?? That really suck that is losing money that we can’t afford to lose.. I wish that it was another way around that plus me and their father are not together any more and we haven’t been together really in years.. Instead of this been a blessing it is going to be a hinderance in our favor.. Single and raising 3 kids is not easy..

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.P.,

      Your child should end up with more money now that he is eligible for Social Security benefits. The Social Security will be offset (reduced) by SSI because SSI is a public assistance program based on other income and cannot be paid at the full rate for months in which Social Security would have been due. The Social Security check will be paid in the correct amount after the SSI offset. In other words, the government will not make duplicate payments for the same period.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  55. J.P. says:

    Hello I have 3 children living at home 2 younger ones has the same father,but the oldest one doesn’t ages 15,12 and 11.. Leading to my question my 15 year gets a check off her disable father and my youngest gets a disable check for being disable for a couple years now.. I want to know since my youngest kids father has become disable and has gotten approve.. He hasn’t gotten any money as of yet he gotten his approval letter last month.. I was wondering if his back pay will effect my disable son check?? Their father is looking for a large sum.. If I add my disable son for a dependent pay would he have to pay back the ssi he has gotten prior to my kids father signing up for ssd?? Or should I just add the oldest one and leave my younger disable son off.. Right now I have worked,but time is hard and my income isn’t enough to keep my family up we are barely making it.. I am trying to figure out how to save income and by adding a little more to help out.. Could you please give me some kind of advice because I can’t afford to loss income that contribute to help pay for our living and well being.. I hope you understand where I’m trying to say here thanks once more J.P.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear J.P.,

      The change in your husband’s income will affect your youngest child’s SSI benefits. The large lump sum back pay will likely make the child ineligible that month. Whether or not his SSI continues depends on the amount of of his father’s ongoing Social Security and the amount of Social Security dependents benefits he is eligible for and which the SSI program requires he apply for. If he loses his SSI and Medicaid eligibility secondary to SSI eligibility and you don’t have other insurance, you can apply for insurance under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), which may provide your family with some government subsidy. Note that if your disabled child is disabled for life and doesn’t marry, he will be eligible for Social Security dependent and survivor benefits throughout his lifetime.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  56. Christopher says:

    I have a question regarding back pay. It took me five years to finally win my case on the grounds of some mental health issues. My ruling was partially favorable and I was awarded back pay for a couple years prior to my ruling. I received one payment in the amount of $2100. Like many of the people who posted here I was without stable living arrangements and my credit rating was destroyed. I am on track now and have a stable home. My problem is this. I was recently diagnosed as being HIV+ and HCV+. The area that I reside in does not have the specialists I need to see in order to get treatment. I have always had an aversion to driving so never had a car. I’m still owed around $12,000 in back pay, and I could really use it in order to buy a car to get back and forth to doctor’s appointments and/or relocate to be in an area that I could be treated in. The money I’m owed will be paid in the 6 month incremental period, but I can’t wait. Sure, the Medicaid will cover some of the meds, but I would have to travel an hour in one direction just to get to the doctor. I dread going to the SSA office because every time I’ve gone they’ve treated me horribly. They act like they are going out of their way to give me something that I am entitled to. I don’t want to disclose my status just yet because there are people close to me whom I haven’t told yet. I just found out on 10-17-14. When I do disclose it I am almost certain I will lose my housing (not because of discrimination). I’m struggling to make it on the $721, but I’m doing my best and I’m not complaining about it. It’s just that the back pay I’m owed would go a long way in helping me get in to treatment so I can maintain my health. In my opinion the SSA doesn’t see it like that. I just don’t know what to do. I realize the rules are in place for a reason, but when implemented I’m positive they didn’t consider cases like mine. I’m not going to die in 12 months (hopefully), I’m not buying a house, but I need my back pay. A year of waiting could spell disaster for me. The back pay I’m owed would go to buying a car to get me back and forth to the doctor and could even help to secure housing in an area where I could receive proper medical care. It’s just sad because I am so intimidated by the workers there and at this point the last thing I need is for someone to judge me. It really doesn’t seem like it, but $12,000 could mean the difference in me staying healthy or my progression in to a stage of the illness where there is no turning back. Yes, I can get the medication through ADAP or Medicaid, but I can’t get to a doctor. I know Medicaid provides transportation to and from doctor’s appointments, but I really don’t want to go through that. I don’t know what else to do, where to turn and I’m at a total loss. Not only do I have 2 deadly infectious diseases, but also a long history of mental illness that I’m not receiving treatment for at all. Do you have any suggestions on how I can approach this subject? I understand how a lot of people on this thread feel. It’s like you go through years and years to just get approved and when you finally do the SSA treats you like garbage. I don’t want sympathy. I just want what I’m entitled to without having to kowtow to some government robot. In my local SSA office you have to speak through glass and if I talk to a worker I’d have to practically scream out what was going on and I feel that would violate my rights to privacy. Just to sum up the facts: I was given a partially favorable ruling (I was eligible for 2 years instead of 5) I received one expedited payment of $2100 to secure my housing. All that went to rent and security deposits, etc. I’m still owed $12k. My next installment payment is supposed to be in December with a final disbursement in June of 2015. I am already receiving $721 a month in SSD payments. I have Medicaid and I receive SNAP benefits in the amount of $123 monthly. I am in a same sex partnership, but we are not married nor do we combine our income. It’s a strain on both of us. His parents bought him a car, but it is not in his or my name and he uses it to commute to work and home. He cannot take me to the doctor. I don’t know what else to do. I’m at the point where I just want to throw my hands up and surrender and just stay in bed until the day my maker comes for me. I know it sounds dramatic, but that’s how I feel. If you could offer any suggestions they’d be greatly appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Christopher,

      I suggest that you get a letter from your local doctor saying that you need to see a specialist in another town to get necessary treatment for a newly diagnosed physical condition that is life threatening. The letter does not have to say what the diagnosis is. You can then write a letter requesting release of the remainder of the money now so that you can purchase a care to drive to the other town for treatment. Include in the letter the amount you will need for the car, title and licensing. You can present these to the representative at Social Security. When you do, ask who will be making the decision and when you can expect an answer. If they want to go into detail, I suggest that you ask to be seen in a private room for the sake of your privacy.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  57. Karen P. says:

    When I received my SSD award I was “docked” $200.00 per month because I lived for free in a rental home owned by my father. My father has recently passed away. I (along with 3 other beneficiaries) own the house now and I still do not pay rent, but I am co-owner of the house. Shouldn’t my award amount be increase by the $200.00 that was deducted initially from my award? When I called the SSA Office they told me to apply for SDI since my income was so low (due to them docking my award initially!). I don’t understand this. It seems to me that because it was SSD that “docked” me that they should have to adjust my award amount now that I co-own my home. Why are they telling me to file for SSI now? What do you suggest I do? This is so frustrating! The other 3 beneficiaries are all on SSD and are getting their FULL AMOUNT of SSD, so why am I still getting a deduction? Can’t my case be reviewed due to the change in my living circumstances? I worked far longer than the other 3 involved, yet they are all receiving more money than I am every month! How does this work and what should I do? Can I request a hearing? I don’t know what to do about this but it seems unfair to me. Please advise. Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Karen,

      The information you have provided is confusing. I think you may be using abbreviations incorrectly. SSD is Social Security Disability, which is a benefit based on your earnings record. SSI is Supplemental Security Income and is a public assistance program for people with limited income and assets, and SDI is State Disability Insurance and is not a federal benefit. Depending on the state it is paid for only six months or a year. SSD is not reduced because of free rent. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) could be reduced due to free rent. Once you are an owner, I would expect any reduction to stop if you are paying the mortgage or there is no mortgage. If you think your benefits are being calculated incorrectly after you reported the inheritance (which would likely make you ineligible for one month of SSI), you do have the right to appeal.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  58. shanell says:

    So she can learn to interact with other kid a an people cus she mean I ment to say sorry

  59. shanell says:

    Hello my daughter got approved an got a back pay almost right away. I got my house fully safty proof baught beds furniture things that she was needed for her to be comfortable home first before anything. My ? Is november is when she is due another backpay check so now my option is a car to get her back an forth to appointments an an go to the school personally so I know she comfortable were she will be at least 8 hours a day the estimate that I have for a van I want is 4500 cash i do not want a car she bangs windows pulls at doors so I need the van to keep her away from the windows an door handles basically something to suit her my only child so when I take the estimate up there shouldn’t I be able to get that amount. Im am not working do to her disability im a stay at home mommy no job an 721 takes care of her needs not my mine so im trynna get her in a awesome daycare an I need to go to school or find a job cus I have needs also so I need to to learn to interact with other kids instead of biting pinching scratching on so on its not easy on me an on top of all of it her speech badly delayed badly she not even saying mama or dada so its really frustrating what can I do an am I entitled to get that amount seeing its something needed an apart of what the ssi booklet says

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shanell,

      I get the impression that your daughter is a minor. My comments are based on that assumption. You need to talk to your state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) about whether you can title a vehicle in a minor’s name. If not, talk to Social Security to see if some special rules apply to your situation, because in general your daughter’s SSI benefits belong to her and cannot be used to property for which you will be the legal owner. An attorney might be able to tell you of a way to handle the DMV situation.

      As far as getting more than one installment released at a time, you can request release of the $4,500 plus costs to title and register based on the need for safe transportation to the services that you mention. Explain your reasoning as you have explained it to me, including how you used the first payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  60. Kristina says:

    HI,
    I know we have a difficult case with social security,
    But these are my questions.
    I have been disabled since 2004, at this age I was 23, I am confused on why I didn’t qualify for ssdi, because I had 17 work credits at that age, they are telling me I needed 20 credits but online it says for that age I only need a 1 and half years of work, also I am confused because my disability actually began in 2001 but the approval say august of 2004. I get social security income benefits but I am so confused why I didn’t get the social security disability benefits. I never really looked into my approval, or why I was getting these benefits instead of the other benefits because at the time I went to the ALJ I was very sick and on chemo therapy and radiation treatments, then in 2007 I applied for benefits for my son who has severe ADHD, Speech problems and Hearing difficulties and he was approved almost instantly ,for ssi, and throughout this whole process my husband worked and owned his own small mechanic business and made roughly around $1100 a month {winter months were pretty rough} and that never messed with my son nor I disability checks {ssi payments} recently he got approved for ssdi payments of only $779 a month and now my check is being split with him for ssi and they call it a couple rate but it is only 323 split in two and he gets his full ssdi check monthly and me and each of our two children get $23.00 so I am not understanding how when he worked we got full benefits but now that he is receiving ssdi my check would be cut all the way down to 161.50 for myself, but his check doesn’t affect my sons check only by 3 dollars, also this approval was on june 24th {the judge approved him the day before the hearing was scheduled} and he only started receiving benefits on September 3rd and still no back payment has come in for SSDI or SSI, which he is owed almost $16,000 after the attorney fees, but the attorney had been paid, and social security keeps saying no the attorney hasn’t been paid yet but that money has been put in offset, and is at the payment processing center, and we have notices from both social security and the attorney that his attorney has been paid in full. also there is a payment of $290.00 that is owed to me for benefits on his account that is paid to me for a mother caring for minor children that also went to and offset and we are not understanding why we can’t just get some of this back pay already to pay some of our bills, so if you can understand any of this and help us understand it. I would appreciate it!!!! thanks Kristina

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristina,

      You raise several questions. First, more of earned income is excluded when calculating Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits than unearned income (everything other than work earnings) exclusions. Your child’s SSI is calculated differently than a couple’s SSI.

      It is now typically taking three months from the date that monthly Social Security Disability benefits begin to get Social Security back pay. The SSI back pay, if any, will be paid first. Your SSI benefit has to be recalculated all the way back to the first month for which he is eligible for SSI, which means his SSI back pay will be reduced to balance out your SSI overpayment for those months when you retroactively became a member of an SSI couple rather than an individual. Then the Social Security back pay has to be reduced by any SSI back pay paid out. In summary, the situation is complex and will require multiple calculations and authorizations and may take longer than the usual three months. Dependent benefits will be paid after his benefits are resolved.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  61. Tonya says:

    Kay, I went for my SSDI hearing in april 2014. I got my award letter in July telling me they were going back to september of 2010. I have since received my first monthly payment for september, but I still havent received the back pay. It is a big amount and was wondering if that’s why I haven’t received it yet. I talked to someone on the 800 # a couple weeks ago and they said it was showing at the payment center, but as of today I still haven’t received it. any help will be appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tonya,

      If it has been more than three months since you received your first monthly payment, ask your local Social Security office to send a follow-up memo to the payment center. Some payments, if they are very large, have to be reviewed twice by two different people to assure accuracy.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Tonya says:

        Thanks Kay. I went down to the SS office and they said 3 – 4 months because it is such a big amount and it has to go through about 5 different people before being released. Does that sound right to you? Thanks again for your help
        Tonya

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Tonya,

          Very large amounts of back pay do have to be reviewed by multiple people. I do not know the exact number.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  62. Jenifer says:

    Hi Kay,
    I was approved for my ssdi claim by The DQB on Sept. 26, 2014. My onset date is Aug. 1, 2010. I understand that I will not be paid back to the onset date. Only for 1yr of back pay? Is that correct? I have not received any type of payments yet. I did complete apps at the local office for my two children so they could receive benefits as well. The reps are not too friendly and didn’t want to provide me any info such as my benefit amount for myself and children. I was told you just need to wait til the mail gets to you. ;( I find it very confusing that I am going to get some ssi payments for the ssdi waiting period and it will be deducted from my ssdi back payment. Is that correct? Also are there supposed to be two different reps handling a ssdi claim? Because there is an ssdi claim rep for me and she stated she has completed her part and the ssi rep assigned to me needs to update his part. Also he never returns any of my calls. However, I reviewed my social sec online and I noticed a One Time Payment in the payment section of 733.54. I am clueless what this is for. Could this be the ssi waiting period funds? Or my back pay of ssdi for 1year? Or my regular payment? The local office is not very helpful. One lady said to me you have to many questions I’m trying to answer phones. She transferred me to the ssi rep who never returns calls….would you be able to point me in right direction? Thank you!!!

    • Jenifer says:

      Also one more question. My children were approved in 09/2010 for the ssi benefits for them they have Special needs. Now I have been approved for ssdi and half of my benefit will go to them but they split it? Is that correct? They were approved for ssi benefits way before I applied in March 2014 for ssdi and ssi somehow for my self. Does that mean I have to pay back from my on set date of aug2010 to current out of my children’s back pay from my ssdi benefits? I got a letter about my children’s benefit today and states on their payments being help up for ssi payments made and a reduction may take place. I don’t know what to do…thank you for your help

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jenifer,

        Your children’s Social Security will be the lesser of one-half of your benefit for each child or the difference between your benefit and your family maximum benefit split between the two of them. You can go to http://www.ssa.gov/mysocialsecurity and set up an account for yourself. Once you do that you can get a copy of your earnings statement, which will have an estimate of your benefit and your family maximum. Your children’s back Social Security benefits will be reduced for the amount of SSI they received for the same period. Their ongoing SSI will be reduced or terminated depending on how high your and their Social Security is. It sounds as if the processing described is correct.

        Sincerely,
        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenifer,

      Your benefits will start the later of January 2011 or one year prior to the month of your original application. It is correct that your Supplemental Security Income claim (SSI) will be paid first and that your Social Security back pay will be reduced by any SSI you receive for the same months. The claims representatives specialize so it is correct that one handles the Social Security and another the SSI. It is possible that the “one-time” payment is your first monthly SSI benefit. It may show “one-time” because the amount will be different the following month (SSI financial eligibility and payment amount is determined on a month-by-month basis.) If you can’t tell looking online, you can call the 800 number and at least find out if it is SSI. At this point, you will just have to wait until everything is processed. It can be three months or more before you get your and your children’s Social Security back pay.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  63. DEE J says:

    Hello I have been approved for SSI/SSDI and I am wondering how does
    the backpay differs each 6 months. The first month I received $2163
    and I am owed over $8500. Also when I receive the last payment will
    it change my monthly benefits. I received a letter stating we will not count an installment payment as your resource for 9 months. And the 9 month period ends February 28, 2015. So if I am due backpay will this go against my benefits. Also will the last payment be the full amount that is due to me?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dee,

      The last installment should pay you all the remaining back pay. Each installment gets its own nine-month period of being excluded from resource and doesn’t count toward the resource limit and does not affect eligibility. The money can also be used to buy an excludable resource such as a house, car or irrevocable life insurance.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  64. amber evans says:

    I have been on ssi since June of 2013 and recently applied for disability. I haven’t received a letter stating I was approved but I checked my ssa.gov and it says I am on disability and the first payment will be 10/3, my beneifit verification letter says I made xxx January 2014 and xxx for December 2013. Is that going to be to calculate back pay? And when can I expect for it to come in because since my snap benefits went down to 15$ and even with the rasie from disability from ssi I fall in financial qualifications and should not have effected it. How would I find out it back pay will be given at same tome as first benefit payment?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Amber,

      Back pay is paid separately from monthly benefits. I assume that by “disability” you mean Social Security Disability benefits. If that is the case, your back pay for Social Security will be reduced by Supplemental Security Income (SSI) that you received for the same period. Back pay can take thirty to ninety days. I suggest that you check with your local office for an estimate for your specific claim.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  65. Kayla says:

    My dad has been collecting my social security benefits from my mother who died and I turn 18 in November and got a letter saying that if I am a full time student I can start getting them in my name until I turn 19. Well I have another year of highschool left but what I’m concerned about is that I’m homeschooled(enrolled in my district as a homeschool student) and take all my classes online at Florida Virtual School and I was reading the guidelines of what makes you a full time student and it said I needed to be enrolled in a “non-correspondence” course. So I’m wondering if these internet classes are counted as non-correspondence course’s and if my application will be approved. Do you have any experience with this I would greatly value your opinion on if you think I will be approved or not. Also, how long will it take to get my letter of approval or denial, if it gets denied can I enroll in public highschool then send in a new SSA-1372 form even if it’s after my 18th birthday?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kayla,

      I don’t know whether home-schooling will be considered a correspondence course, but it is possible that it will. If you are not eligible as a home-schooled child, I believe that you could reapply once you enroll in a public school, but you would likely not be paid for months that you were not attending the school physically. If it is important for you to receive continuing benefits, I suggest that you talk to Social Security now to find out whether, if you are denied for home schooling, you start public school after you are eighteen and reapply. If you cannot and you want benefits to continue, then you need to enroll in October, the last month for which you will be paid as a minor.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  66. Amy says:

    I was awarded SSDI on Aug 11, I have a dependent child who is 11yrs old, do I automatically get benefits to help support her? Or is that something separate I need to file for? How long does that take? How do I go about doing that ?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Amy,

      If you listed your child on your application, your child’s application should be in processing now. I would, however, check with the Social Security office to be sure that everything is in the works. Benefits are typically paid to the adult who has custody of the child and may be paid to the disabled parent if disability is not too severe.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  67. Tynia Edward says:

    I m waiting on my hearing diagnosed with ms doctor told me I cant work since april 2013 lawyer appeals case in dec how long it take for a hearing I did get a letter asking if I want a video conference or person for the hearing it was in the hearing office all I kno

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tynia,

      Given the letter you received about an in-person versus video hearing, I would say that you are close to getting a hearing date.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  68. Pamela says:

    Hi Kay,
    Hope you’re having a beautiful day. I would like to know if my son’s SSI decision was overturned in May 2014 to fully favorable. I had applied back in March 2012 and have to open a dedicated account for him to receive his back pay because it’s too large. Is he suppose to receive the benefits from June, July, Aug, and Sept 2014 in check form since the final fully favorable decision was made in May 2014? The rep said I can only use his funds in the dedicated account for medical expenses only. I don’t think that’s fair because I have been fight on my own with appeals, paperwork, appointments etc.(acting as a non lawyer). On his behalf, which has taken many hours and very time consuming and he need his meds are over $200/month, he has $100 co-pays at his doctors and specialists offices, clothes, bed, humidifier which I can’t afford to buy myself. The rep said the money has to stay in his account until he is 18 or longer! That really sucks!! Please help me understand this, please! Thank you for listening.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pamela,

      While your son is under age eighteen, you can use the money in the Supplemental Security Income dedicated account for the medical items such as you listed: his medication and co-pays. The money can also be used for education or job skills training when he is older and in some circumstances for personal needs or assistance, special equipment (this might include the humidifer), housing modification, therapy or rehabilitation, and other items or services approved by your local Social Security office, like costs you incurred in establishing the claim for disabled child’s benefits. If you owe medical bills for his past care, you might get permission to use some of the money to pay those debts.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  69. Sanna says:

    I receive benefits for my daughter, recently her father and I were divorced. I received the letter with the amount of her benefit changes since she has been receiving payments since 2012 and also they disclosed that I did not receive the amount each month that was supposed to be paid out so back pay is due totaling almost $6000. How long will it take to get the back pay and will it come as a lump sum?

    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sanna,

      If your daughter’s benefits are Social Security dependent benefits and you have already gotten a letter, I would expect you to receive the funds within a month. If the benefits are Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits, then the back pay will be paid in three installments six months apart.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Sanna says:

        Thank you, it is for disability. once I receive the letter is there an amount of time it takes to release the first payment?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Sanna,

          Your daughter’s Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay will be paid out in installments of no more than $2,163 six months apart. If you have not received the first installment within a month of being told it is due, I recommend following up with the local office.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Sanna says:

            The 800 number did not tell me that I had to open a dedicated account for them to release funds, went down to the local office and they accepted everything today…I was told that it could take 48 to 72 hours to receive funds. Is that accurate?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Sanna,

            How long releasing the funds will take depends on how quickly after your visit the representative does the work to complete release. If he or she said forty-eight to seventy-two hours, it means that the person expected to complete the work quickly. If he or she is able to meet that expectation, then the time frame is accurate.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  70. Mona says:

    My husband filed for social security in 2006. He has been denied all these years. Now the ruling was over turned in his favor. Waiting for new court date?
    My question is … He also has a Workers Comp case that has been going on for 10 yrs! yes 10 yrs! Injured in 2004
    I heard if you get SSI before your case settles with Workers Comp, that SSI takes half away as back payment? Is this true? should he not go through with the SSI case and wait?
    Please help us understand the consequences… Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mona,

      Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits are offset (reduced by) workers compensation; however, if your husband is unable to work, he should continue to pursue the SSDI claim for several reasons. First, usually the total SSDI and workers compensation is more than either benefit alone. Second, the workers compensation might not pay out as long as Social Security. Also, after two years of benefits, including benefits for past months, your husband will be eligible for Medicare. To avoid overpayments, he needs to be sure Social Security knows that he is receiving workers comp and any changes in the workers comp award. If your husband is approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), he may not be eligible in months he receives workers comp because his income will be too high.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Mona says:

        Thank you for responding..
        He hasn’t worked for ten years now. And his workers comp benefits have run out. He is awaiting a settlement still. We heard that if he wins his workers comp case after he receives his SSDI settlement and payments , that SSDI takes an amount to cover what he has already received? We don’t understand how it all works? He currently does not receive any amount of money from either system. But his ruling on being denied SSDI has been overturned , and he is awaiting a new court date. He filed for SSDI in 2006 does he get back payments?
        Thank you for your help.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Mona,

          If your husband is awarded Social Security Disability benefits and later receives a workers compensation settlement and if the settlement is not reduced for the Social Security he has received, he should report the settlement to Social Security and not spend the settlement money until he gets a notice from Social Security regarding how much Social Security he is overpaid. That way he can use the settlement money to repay the overpayment. The settlement is likely to be more than the overpayment, so it is likely some will be left for other uses.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

          • Mona says:

            Ridiculous! He was injured at work and Workers Comp owes him. Now since he can’t work and needs SSI they want to take away money awarded to him? What’s the point of paying into both Workers Comp and SSI if they take away any money owed back to recipient?

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Mona,

            I cannot find the post and response you are referring to, so cannot respond.

            Sincerely,
            Kay

  71. james says:

    I was told I have 6,000 or more back pay waiting on me cause I had to renew some papers… I was cut off about 6 to 7 months. how would I get the back payment, I updated the papers on the 2nd of this month but dont get a payment until oct 1

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear James,

      You are likely to get the monthly payment before the back pay. If the benefits are Social Security Disability (SSDI), the back pay may have to be issued by the payment center and could take a couple months. If the benefits are Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the back pay may be paid in three installments, the largest being $2163.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  72. andrew says:

    I went to court for my disability hearing on July 22 2014 and received my favorable decision letter on Aug 29th 2014. On 9/10/14 on the SSA.GOV website is says there is a one time payment for 7,077.39. What does that mean? And if its my back pay when should I receive it? Please note that my lawyer went for just a closed period which is back pay only.

  73. zeneida bisono says:

    Hi,
    My question is: I recently applied for disability benefits for my 18 year old son and I was told that he became disabled since 2000 and his case was approved ,But i didn’t apply by that time even though i knew he was disabled. What that means? that he is going to receive all those years as retroactive?
    Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Zeneida,

      If you applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI disability, benefits will start the month after application on in the month of application if you applied on the first of the month. If you applied for Social Security disabled adult child benefits, benefits will begin six months before the month of application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  74. teresa mchargue says:

    yes I have a question I was married for 13 years I have work all my life when my husband dies back in 2002 our son receive his social security till he reach the age of 18 and the check stop he did go straight to college from high school my question is how does someone received social security disability thru an disability divorce parent and they receive checks after the age 18 my child lost his father and I lost my husband I was just wondering

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Teresa,

      I am not certain whether you are asking about benefits for yourself or our son.

      A divorced spouse can receive Social Security disabled surviving divorced spouse’s benefits if he or she was married to the deceased worker for ten years or more and is age fifty or older and has not remarried. In some circumstances, the person must also have become disabled within seven years of the death of the worker or within seven years of the date she last received mother’s benefits on the worker’s account. Otherwise, reduced widow(er)s benefits are payable at age sixty. Your son could apply for disabled adult child benefits on his father’s earnings record if he became disabled before age twenty-two

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  75. sharon smith says:

    Thanks kay for the answer i took the information up there week ago and now I’m waiting on an approval how long would that take

  76. Brian says:

    i was wondering since i get ssi if dfc is going to make me pay them back for the food stamps i was getting out of my back pay or is that
    only if you get actual welfare cash…thanks

  77. Rickie says:

    Good afternoon,

    I was recently approved for SSDI benefits. There was quite a large backpay (over $20,000 like some others here). Our car is about to die, and this would allow me to buy a new car to get back and forth to medical appointments, run errands, etc. My concern is about disclosing the backpay amount to my state (Wisconsin). Right now I have been getting SNAP and Medicaid benefits. With my SSDI monthly benefit that begins this month at the end, I may still qualify for state assistance because of our family size and outstanding medical bills. However, at no point have I been asked to disclose if there was a backpay/lump sum amount. I feel hesitant to disclose it to the state unasked for, but I also don’t want to put myself in a place where I have to pay back benefits or risk breaking the law. I don’t know what the law is. Can you please tell me what your experience has been with folks in my situation, and what you have advised most of them to do? I understand we don’t have an attorney-client relationship and I really appreciate the service you are providing the public on your site. Have a great day.

    Rickie

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rickie,

      I believe that you are required by law to report all income changes for SNAP (food stamps) and Medicaid. The large Social Security payment will likely make you ineligible in the month it was received and for subsequent months in which you still have the large amount of funds. However, you may not need to repay the type of assistance you have been receiving. Accordingly, the back pay might still be available to purchase a car. Note that regardless of the impact of reporting, I think you will find that you are obliged to report. You should have received a list of reporting responsibilities when you began to get benefits. If you can’t find them, you can get them again from the agencies administering the benefits.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  78. lashad perry says:

    My.question I’s if you owe.Back child.support.How much are they allowed to take (percentage wise.) Of Your retroactive back pay? I heard no more than 50% if you are supporting anther spouse.or child . But I.also heard that each state has a maximum percentage they can take. I’m currently in NORTH CAROLINA. Would you by chance know.How much my state can take percentage wise I can’t find the info anywhere

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lashad,

      I suggest that you check with the North Carolina child support collection agency for their rules. Also, be sure to list the child for whom you owe child support on your application so that if your Social Security family maximum is high enough for dependent benefits, that child will receive benefits, which could result in a lowering of your ongoing child support obligation.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  79. Carisa says:

    I receive Ssdi and was receiving Tanf also but was cut off a few days ago, will my SSDI go up since I no longer receive that income for my kids any longer?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Carisa,

      Your Social Security Disability benefits will not increase because you stopped receiving welfare assistance for your children. However, if your Social Security benefit is high enough for the family maximum benefit to be higher that your own benefit, your children will be eligible for Social Security dependent benefits. If you have not already applied for them to receive dependent benefits and provided birth certificates for them, I suggest contacting your Social Security office to make application.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  80. Carl Joseph says:

    im getting retro pay from ssi and ssd than i will be cut off of ssi and only receive ssd can welfare take money from ssi or ssd or both

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Carl,

      Direct repayment to the welfare office will be made only from your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay; however, you may still be responsible for repaying any balance owing by using Social Security (SSDI) back pay paid to you.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  81. Billie Heinzelman says:

    My husband just recently got approved for SSD
    He applied in January 2014
    He has a five month waiting period for which he will not receive any back pay for
    So he’s only gonna get 2 months back pay
    My question is!!! Why are working people who pay into to the system get penalized ??
    SSI is for the poor or people who were either too lazy to ever had worked ( so in most cases may explain why their poor)
    Other than people who may actually been sick all their life.
    So therefore they had a reason not to ever worked.
    And I’m not talking bout people who receive both SSI & SSD
    Cause those people worked
    They just had a job that paid poor wages
    I’m speaking mainly bout people that are young and lazy and lay around doing drugs and having babies just to get checks.
    I have family members that fit this description I’m talking bout.
    It’s unfair that our government penalize people on SSD
    And not SSI
    SSI don’t have the 5 month waiting period
    Plus once approved get automatic MEDICAID
    But SSD ( working people ) have 5 months waiting period plus have to wait 24 months for Medicare.
    I’m sick of the double standard bullshit!!
    The rules should be the same if you are disabled.
    That’s all I ask !! Is for fairness

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Billie,

      You can express your opinions to your senator and congressional representative as Congress passes the laws that govern these benefits.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  82. sharon smith says:

    Thanks kay for the answer how can i get the registration with out getting the vehicle do i have to purchase it first to get the registration and title

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharon,

      Once you purchase the car, go to the motor vehicles department to get the registration and title. Be aware that the car has to be purchased with your son as owner because you are using his money to purchase the car. (Be sure that you are listed as an insured driver when you purchase car insurance.) Motor vehicles can probably tell you how to register and title a car in the name of a minor. (I suggest that you get Social Security’s approval of the use of the dedicated funds for the car purchase before you start the process.)

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  83. sharon smith says:

    Hi my son got approve for ssi on may15,2014 his first payment was 480 dollars and then in june18 he started getting his back pay but they say every six months for the next pay I’m trying to get an vehicle to take him back and forward to his physical therapy and to school is there’s a way I can use some of back for that

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sharon,

      Your son can apply to have more of the back pay released to purchase transportation for medical care. Be prepared to state how much is needed for the car, including registration and title.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  84. Tyler says:

    Kay-
    i have been recieving ssi since 2010 and worked from july 2012 until march 2014 and i am currently waiting to get on ssd, i am married and my wife is on ssi, will i get any form of back payments when i get on ssd? and if i get a new job when im on ssd will my wife’s money be less? or will her money be less because im on ssd?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tyler,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) and your work earnings, if you work, will be considered in determining your wife’s Supplemental Security Income (SSI) eligibility and payment amount. Whether or not your wife’s SSI is reduced will depend on the amount of the SSDI and/or work earnings you receive.

      Any back SSDI benefits you are eligible for will be reduced by the amount of SSI already paid to you for the same months.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  85. Lorenzo says:

    my mom has been approved for backpay since 2002 because of a error they made when she became disabled. she got a letter back in feb and its now aug!!!! she has been very ill and worried she wont get it in time. if something happens are her adult kids entitled to it since it was owed to her? Thanks..

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lorenzo,

      First, if your mother’s condition is terminal, a letter from the doctor to that effect could speed up the processing of the back pay. If the back pay is Social Security Disability (not Supplemental Security Income) and your mother were to pass away before the money was paid, it would be paid to herspouse if she has one. If not, the money would be split among her children.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  86. Charlie says:

    Hi kay I won my SSDI case 06/2014 it was a ALJ decision onset date 10/2012 got letter end of june I then got a letter from my local office a week later telling me to go in . I went in provided all that they asked I told them that I have worked enough in my life time to be insured by SSDI and if I should even continue the SSI portion They told me that they need to complete my SSI portion anyway they explained that they deducted some short term disability and Unemployment I collected during my Time from the OSD and they explained the break down of what they owe me and what goes to my lawyer and was told that in July I should receive a check also I was told that I will get award letter explaining this .

    I never received a letter from SSI explaining this breakdown But what I did receive was a Award letter from SSDI the letter explained what I am going to get monthly and when my 1st payment should start it also explained what is owed to me and what is being deducted for my lawyer fees and it says that my Back pay is being held for any SSI payment I have received I did receive a deposit for the month of July from SSI .
    So I called SS and spoke with some one that explained that I had a SSI back pay on hold and a SSDI back pay on hold she told me that I should receive both payment in about 6 weeks from 1st payment (Sorry for the rambling but I know the more info you have the better you would understand )

    My 1st question
    I worked most my life and I have got the award letter from SSDI that I am approved from my OSD for more money then SSI would pay I should not be eligible for SSI for that same time period it seems like my SSDI back pay is being held up by SSI which never sent me an award letter they did pay me a fraction of what my future monthly SSDI payment will be for the month of July my SSDI benefits start on 09/2014

    I don’t know how this works gets me a little of scared if I am going to receive payment from SSI and SSD or be lost in the SS limbo any advise is helpful was thinking of going in to my local office Monday

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Charlie,

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) financial eligibility is determined on a month-by-month basis. Only income received (not due, but received) in a month counts to reduce SSI. That means that your Social Security Disability (SSD) does not count against SSI until it is actually received. For these reasons, you may be eligible for some SSI before Social Security starts. Your Social Security back pay will be reduced by SSI back pay paid for the same months. If a substantial amount is owed to you, it can be an advantage to have some of the back pay in the form of SSI because SSI is not taxable and depending on your total income in the year you receive the SSD back pay, the SSD could be partially taxable.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Charlie says:

        Hey Kay Update the called me and told me that back pay is being deposit by the 25th checked SSA website saw in payment section 2 payments from SSI and 1 from SS nothing yet in account but fingers crossed

  87. Jodi calhoun says:

    My husbands attorney was paid a year ago next week, he received part of his SSDI back pay last september 2013, but they have been holding the rest of it since then, they say in the case the lawyer wants to collect more fees. Well she sent a letter stating she was not . When he has called they said it started processing it in April of this year, but yet it is now August 14th amd nothing has been released still. How much longer can this take, since as of the 19th of August will be a year thet the lawyer would have been paid by them?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jodi,

      I would think that the money would have been released by now. You do not say how long ago your husband called for a status. If it has been more than thirty days, I suggest that he call the local office and ask that a follow-up memo be sent to the payment center indicating that it has been four months since processing started and a year since the attorney was paid.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  88. missy says:

    Hello, i was awarded full ssdi and backpay from both ssi and ssdi. The ssdi is being held up because they muct complete a review to see how much ssi back pay i am enyitled to. My question is…. can i waive my right to the ssi pack pay. They subtact the amount from the ssdi , and it would be the same as far as the amount anyhow. She is always busy and i can never get in contact with the person o am supposed to speak with. And, frankly i could use the money for my family . Thank you missy

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Missy,

      You can withdraw your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) application. One thing to consider is being clear on what you are refusing. I suggest that you find out whether you are eligible for SSI only till Social Security starts or you will be eligible for ongoing SSI payments with the accompanying Medicaid health insurance coverage.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  89. Emily says:

    I will start receiving my SSDI on 9/3/14. The letter I received states the monthly amounts I shouldve received every month sice the 5 months after EOD,but it doesnt indicate any amount for back pay/retropay. Also what happens if I was collecting TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) during all that time. I also received an appointment for one of my daughters, out of the 3 I have custody of. Its confusing!!! And last but not least, will my non-custodial children receive benefits? No one asked me for their info. Should I tell their dad to go to the local SS office? How about my oldest, I was granted benefits from 11/2011 on, he was a minor then. He turned 18yrs old on 6/14 and is leaving for Marines training in N.C. Will he get any retropay even after he leaves for the training?
    Oh gosh…I’m over thinking all this!
    #mentalillness

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Emily,

      All your children are eligible for dependent benefits. You need to apply to be payee for the minor children in your custody and your eighteen-year old needs to apply for his benefits, which will be paid directly to him. Notify your children’s father to apply to be payee for the children in his care and give his contact information to Social Security also. You don’t say when your son is leaving for training, but it can take a couple months to get benefits started. It may be two to three months before your back pay is issued.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  90. Ismael Tjenna says:

    I am deaf and applied for disability. It has been about 8-9 months since my application. I haven’t heard of an approval, though I did have to attend an appointment at an impartial hearing doctor to verify the extent of my hearing loss. I forget what you call that. Anyway I woke up and almost choked on my morning cereal when I saw my bank account. I have a $20,000 deposit from SSA. So it looks like I am approved (thank GOD, we are barely surviving because I can’t work). HOWEVER.. is $20,000 a legitimate amount? It’s not too much? Obviously I don’t know the effective date of disability they considered. Maybe as far back as they could legally go, since I’ve been deaf all my life. I just don’t want to spend this money to be told it was a mistake. I want to say this is a blessing from God, but it’s the result of hard work. Working all my life to avoid the title of the lazy deaf guy, and working hard when I couldn’t find work anymore to follow every rule of the disability application process. I returned every request for information with complete, thoughtful and truthful answers, attended every appointment, and I made it a point to be prompt and treat every SSA employee with respect. Everyone told me I would need a lawyer and I would need to go through several applications to be approved. I think I would hire an attorney for this if I had a more complex situation, like many of the commenters on this board. I’m rambling but can you help reassure me they probably isn’t a mistake? I’m guessing I will be receiving a packet of info from SSA soon? Thank you! Thank you!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ismael,

      The amount deposited to your account could be correct. You should receive an award letter that tells you the start date and monthly amount payable. If you would like information before then, you can call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 and tell them you received back pay and would like to know the first months for which benefits were payable and your monthly benefit amount. Those two pieces of information will let you know whether the payment is correct.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  91. teresa freeman says:

    I receive social security for 743 per month and I would like to know if I can also collect SSI. I have very little savings . I have looked for work and have not been able to get a job. Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Teresa,

      Unless your state has a state SSI supplement, you will not be eligible for Supplemental Security Income(SSI) because your Social Security is just slightly over the income limit for SSI. If you tell me the state you live in, I can tell you whether there is a state supplement.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  92. Angela says:

    My husband had to file for disability. After several years of appeals and documentation, he went in front of the judge on May 8, 2014. On May 21st, we were told by the lawyer and then a letter in the mail that he was found disabled starting July 11, 2011. We received his notice of award on June 21, 2014 breaking down his benefits. We found out on June 24 that the lawyer had already received their representative fee payment. He has called several times to check on his back pay and we get different stories each time. I would have thought he would have received his money not long after the lawyer received theirs or even right after the 15 day review of fee amount, but still nothing. He was told in June it could be anywhere from then to August 15, 2014 but now they say is its processing and don’t know when it will be complete. He has now received two of his monthly payment. Isn’t this taking too long to processes his back pay? Why can’t they give us a deposit date? The local office doesn’t seem to be able to give us any answers, cause they just say it takes about three months.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Angela,

      Many Social Security back payments are pending two to three months after the first monthly benefit is issued. An adjudicator in the payment center has to review the claim and release the payment. There appears to be backlogs causing long delays. This means your husband’s claim is waiting its turn to be processed.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

      • Angela says:

        Kay,
        Thanks for the response. Just wondering, why would the lawyer get their so far in advanced of him getting his check?
        Thanks,
        Angela

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Angela,

          It seems quite common now for the attorney to be paid quickly even though release of the claimant’s back pay will not be authorized for some time. I don’t know the reason for it.

          Sincerely,
          Kay

  93. Kirk says:

    Thanks Kay! You are doing a great deed for all of us who are having to deal with the “waiting around” period!

    One last question…
    Once the payment proccess center has your claim, what happens on their end? Am I just waiting for a person to enter me into the computer and that is when it will be sent to my bank account? (Im talking about my back pay, I am already receiving my monthly SSDI checks)

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kirk,

      You are waiting to have an authorizer in the payment center to get to your claim, review the dates for accuracy and release the payment.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  94. Kirk says:

    Hi Kay!
    I received a letter form SS at the end of april telling me that I would receive monthly benefits and a back payment in the future. I found out on July 28the the payment center received my info. Question #1 with no BS please when realistically, can I expect my back pay? Lot of anxiety lately! Question #2 what type of things may they deduct from my back pay prior to paying me. Question #3 why cant anyone at SS give me a consistant answer? I will vote for the democratic canadaiate if this situation gets resolved quickly!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kirk,

      It can take a month or more to get your first monthly Social Security Disability (SSDI) payment and another two or three months to get your back pay.

      If you also applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits, the amount of SSI you are paid for months that overlap with Social Security back pay will reduce your SSDI back pay. If you received workers compensation or certain public pensions, the amount of Social Security and workers comp Social Security and government pension you can receive is limited to 80% of your current average earnings. Delinquent child support and back taxes can be withheld from Social Security benefits. In the case of back taxes, you would receive a notice of intent to levy a lien on the benefits and give you time to respond.

      Afraid I can’t answer your third question. I doubt the issue is related to any political party.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  95. Dave says:

    sorry if u have answered this question once before i tried to read through all the things that people stated they were having trouble with backpay but it was just to long sorry but my question is i recived a reward letter with the amount i was getting back and everything the next thing i know they are making me get quotes on things like cars and apartments and living stuff why do i need all this to get my backpay im just curious cause a few people who get SSI and whatnot said they never had to go through this is this something new with SSI and such just wanting to know kinda broke at the moment and a little if anything would be nice to get going again but i feel like this is just delaying it longer

    thanks
    Dave

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dave,

      I wonder if you applied for both Social Security Disability (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and the award letter you got was for SSDI. Supplemental Security Income has always required proof of living arrangements, income, and resources (assets) to determine payment amounts. If the award letter is for SSI and you have requested that more than one-third of the back pay be released so that you can move into housing and/or buy a car, you would have to submit proof that the amount needed is more than the one-third of the back pay. In any event, you can ask Social Security the purpose for which they are requesting the documentation.

      Sincerely,
      Kay

  96. Heather says:

    Hello Kay, I was approved for SSDI on June 23rd and I’m waiting for an award letter. So far nothing yet. I check my account with SS and my application status and it indicated that a decision has not been made. What could that mean? I’ve had my decision letter for over a month now, does this mean they just haven’t began to process my claim? Will they status update as soon as they process my claim or will I be in the dark until I receive an award letter? I’m sorry for so many questions, I’m just really in need of my money.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      The claim approval is not complete until the claim has been calculated for payment. I assume that the approval letter you got was a medical approval from from a hearing appeal. If that is the case, I suggest that you call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 regarding your approval and request an appointment to find out what else they need to do and/or need from you for your claim to be paid.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  97. Kathryn says:

    Dear Kay… first of all thank you for your patience in answering all of our questions. This whole process is insane, on a good day!
    My question(s) are :
    Hearing was 1-14-14. Received full approval for SSD in letter on 6-25-14. I’ve had one partial phone interview about SSI and she was supposed to call back the next day but hasn’t so I will call her and leave a message. My approval letter stated ” ….careful review…claimant has been disabled from June 4, 2008 through the date of this decision. The undersigned also finds that the insured status requirements of the Social Security Act were met as of the date disability is established. ” … So what does this mean? Will the backpay go back to 2008? I have/had an attorney who was working with me but after I received my approval letter I was told that they were in essence through with me. Lovely. Get the money and run I guess. That’s why I’m here asking for advice from you. I’ve called SS twice and they say it’s at the processing center. Could the fact that I was under a concurrent case, with SSD and SSI, and the fact that interview about the SSI hasn’t been completed, be holding up my pay ? I am on the CAL which is SUPPOSED to speed all this mess up but doesn’t seem to be having a thing to do with anything speedy:( Any advice would be appreciated !

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kathryn,

      Your Social Security will be paid back to the later of twelve months before the date of your application or December 2008. Given the long period of time for which you appear to be due benefits, the amount of back pay could be an amount so large that it has to go through a special review process in the payment center. That said, yes, the fact that your SSI has not been calculated and paid is holding up the Social Security. Your Social Security back pay must be reduced by the amount of SSI back pay due for the same months, so the SSI is calculated and paid first.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  98. Debbie says:

    I just went under my ss account and it shows everything I will be getting even my back pay it says july 15 2014 on my back pay is that when i could get it or is does it mean when they figured it out and if they figured my back pay out does that mean i should receive a check soon for my monthly payment cause how could they figure out my back pay if my monthly payment isn’t gonna be here this month cause then my back pay would just go up if I don’t get it this month. Am I right or not. thanks

    • Debbie says:

      I did get my money so thanks for the help I can relax a little bit now. They were pretty fast in getting it to me which was great oh One question I just get ssdi not ssi am I only allowed to have a certain amount of money in the bank after 9 months. My husband works but I heard that you can only have s much money in the bank. which would suck cause i’d like to save some money.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Debbie,

        There are no income or resource restrictions on getting Social Security Disability (SSDI). You can have any amount of money in the bank you want. There are limits to the amount you can earn from work and still be considered disabled, so if you work, you must report that.

        Sincerely,

        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Debbie,

      The date on the record should be the date that the back pay was authorized. Allow a week for receipt before following up. Social Security benefits are paid in the month following the month for which they are due. Back pay authorized in July is for benefits through June. Then your July benefit will be paid in August.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  99. Heather says:

    I was approved for SSD at the hearing level by a judge on June 23rd. I want to know if there will be a delay in my monthly payments and backpay because I listed my 3 children on my application? Also I have a minor child receiving SSI will this also delay payments? What should I do in order to prevent any delays? Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      Having eligible dependents will not delay payment of your benefits. Once your benefits are paid, then your children’s benefits will be processed for payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  100. Jennifer says:

    My lawyer gets 33 1/3% of my Long Term Disability per month. When I get Social Security back pay, who determines what I have to pay back to the insurance carrier and how is it determined. I am worried I am going to owe more than I am getting, because of the lawyer’s fees. Thanks!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jennifer,

      Your attorney will receive 25% of your Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay up to a maximum of $6,000. Often private or employer-sponsored long-term disability (LTD) policies calculate overpayments caused by the receipt of SSDI using the net amount you are eligible to receive after attorney fees are withheld. You can request a copy of your LTD policy; it will tell you how integration of benefits is handled.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  101. billy says:

    yes they put brother on ridalin in the second grade he is 37 yrs of age now he had to quit school in the 7th grade because he was 17 and really couldnt learn any thing in the ld class’s ..he a ptsd.and some health problem’s do you think that he could get on his disablitly?’ or ssi

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Billy,

      Your brother might be eligible for disability benefits. The only way to find out for sure is for him to apply.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  102. Laurie Mathews says:

    My husband got approved for SSDI and just recieved a big back pay check. He has 2 children. His ex has been in contact w/SS and is scheduled for her “payee” interview in a few weeks since the boys are still minors & live with her. We have a couple questions we can’t seem to get any answers on… (and nothing was mentioned at all about his children in his award letter)

    1. Will he have to pay his ex a percentage of the back pay he just recieved or will she recieve a separate check from SS for the boys after she has her interview?

    2. He is in arrears – can the money she recieves of back pay for the children be applied to his outstanding debt? Or does he still owe the arrears and she just gets a big fat check?

    3. I’m sure we’d need to check w/an attorney to be sure – is she recieves a big fat check that is “extra” – can my husband have her apply that money toward college expenses or additional medical/dental expenses? We are of course now on a fixed income and so coming up with these additional expenses for the boys will be near impossible…

    Thanks so much…

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Laurie,

      Social Security dependent benefits paid for the children are paid in addition to the amount that your husband will receive. If your husband has already received his Social Security back pay and none has been withheld for past-due child support, then his Social Security will not be affected by the child support that he owes. You are right, he needs to consult with an attorney about the possibility of going back to the court that ordered the child support to see if the order can be changed retroactive or in the future to consider the fact that the children are receiving Social Security dependent benefits from his record.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  103. Juan perez says:

    My question is I was awarded ssdi and my date of disability was dec 1 2012 but was collecting unemployment benefits will that cut into my back pay check I stopped receiving unemployment nov 2013?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Juan,

      Unemployment benefits will not reduce Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits. They will reduce Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  104. michele theriot says:

    I have been contacting my attorney and SS office for over a month.
    I received my notice of award letter from SS on April 20, 2014.
    My hearing with a ALJ was January 14,2014. My Attorney received their payment I learned in a June 2, 2014 email. When I last checked with attorney they tell me processing has my file and they are backed up that was on June 27, 2014. Today I called SS local office they told me the processing center has no date when my check will be released.
    When I applied for disability my application date of july 17 2012 my attorney told me I was not eligible for SSI.

    Don’t know what to do next! Like many others things are getting turned off and don’t want to lose my home!

    • michele theriot says:

      also I have received 3 monthly checks now.

      • Marty says:

        Michele,

        Did you ever get your past-due benefits? My wife’s story is similar to yours: not eligible for SSI, hearing on 1/14, decision on 2/21, award letter on 4/13. Received monthly checks in May, June, and July, but not past-due benefits.

        We talked to our attorney. We talked to the 800 number. We set an appointment and went into the local office where they contacted the Baltimore folks. We contacted our congressman who contacted SSA.

        And still nothing…

        In 20 days it will be 6 months since the decision. I just wonder how long this will take.

        • Marty says:

          UPDATE: My wife received her past-due benefits on Aug 14, 2014. It was one week shy of six months since the decision and seven months to the day from the hearing. It was also three weeks and three days after we contacted our congressman.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michele,

      As nearly as I can tell it is taking about three months in the payment center to get back pay. There are two things you can do. First, check with your local office to be sure that they have communicated to the payment center that you are not eligible for SSI. Second, you could ask them to send a request for expedited payment because you are in danger of losing your home. I don’t know whether it will help or not, but it is worth a try. In the meantime, I suggest that you show your approval letter to your mortgage holder and utility companies. They may work with you once they know that you will have income.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  105. L.C. says:

    I was approved for my SSD on april 28, 2014. I got my letter less than 30 days after my approval. I was told what I would make and what my back pay was, minus my attorney’s fee. As of today, no back pay. I have received my first check. Being homeless, it took all I had just to get a place to live. But I have no furniture, no nothing, but a place to live. however, I hear people getting their back pay before their first check. If the rules are across the board, why do some people receive their back pay first and others don’t? Keep in mind, I received NO help from the federal and state governments during the two years I was homeless and in pain. Does the amount dwell in the length of time?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear L.C.,

      Release of back pay can take longer if the amount is very high. I suggest that you request expedited processing. Explain the situation of having been homeless and the need for furniture and household furnishings. In the meantime, I suggest that you contact local churches and or thrift stores that operate as charitable non-profits. You might be able to get some basic items for free to help furnish your home.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  106. Beth says:

    Approved for SSDI. Took back pay for overpayment. Overpayment was included in Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Papers given to local SS office and sent to processing center. They restarted my monthly payments of which the first will be July 16. How long will it take for them to process the overpayment back to me? Thank you in advance.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Beth,

      It seems to be taking about two to three months for back pay to be issued after the monthly checks have started.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  107. Debbie says:

    I received my fully favorable decision on June 25 2014 I set up my bank information on the original application for direct deposit is there anything else I need to do? It is now July 10 and I have not heard anything I really need money should I call my lawyer or just wait and how long can it take to get my money or award letter. Is there anything else I need to do to get it direct deposited into my bank does my bank need to know I will be getting disability payments? Thaks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Debbie,

      I suggest that you take the judge’s approval letter to your local Social Security office and ask what else needs to be done to get payment started and whether anything is needed from you. At that time, you can also ask about time frames for your particular claim.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Debbie says:

        thanks for the help i talked to my lawyers assistant today and she said they have everything they need we just have to wait 30 days and if we don’t here anything or get the award letter by then they will start checking into it. does that sound about right, I really could use the money we are getting to the point of not being able to pay the rent is there anything I can do to speed up the process. sorry for the questions but this is all new to me. Thanks again

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Debbie,

          Your attorney’s guidance is appropriate. I suggest that you talk with your landlord and explain your situation and that you have been approved and are waiting for payment to start, which can take three months. If necessary, you can show him the page of the judge’s letter that says you are approved and tell him that you will be able to pay any rental arrears. Try to negotiate no late fees.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  108. jo anne turner says:

    my son just recently received his approval for ssi benefits and was told by social security that they will deduct any food stamps he received while waiting for his approval from his lump sum. What in the world did they expect him to exist on, grass. I am confused about this.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jo Anne,

      Are you sure they said food stamps and not something more general like “public assistance”? Cash assistance to needy families or temporary cash assistance for disabled people does have to be paid back. I have not heard of having to pay back food stamps.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  109. John Taylor says:

    I received a partial decision after over 2 years of waiting. The way i read it i was to get 5 months of pay from the time i was considered disabled by the judge which was not true but what can i do. When i went to the SSI office the technician told me i will be getting 639 month and a medical card. I just kept quite. A couple days later i had 3000 in my account but it is the first today and have not gotten the 639. According to the letter i was only going to get the award for those 4 months minus the attorney fees. If it went to the local SSI office can they add the monthly payment by accident which would really help me out. I am just afraid to call anybody in case there was a mistake to my favor. I am very confused??

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      You may have applied for both Social Security Disability (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). If the medical card is Medicaid (and not Medicare), then at least some of your payments are likely SSI. If benefits are due on two programs, that might be causing the confusion. It is best for you to contact Social Security and get clarity now. If there is a mistake in your favor, it is much better to know now than have them find it later and owe a lot of money.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  110. Don Blanchard says:

    I applied for Social Security Disability in Feb. 2014. I did not apply for SSI. I got a letter 6-12-2014 stating that I meet the medical requirements to qualify for SSD, they established my beginning date of disability as 10-10-2013, but that they had not yet made a decision about whether I meet the non medical requirements. Then on 6-17-2014 I received a Notice of Award letter. In it affirms the 10-10-13 date, then says the first month I am entitled to benefits is April 2014. I understand the 5 month waiting period. It then goes on to say,

    “What We Will Pay And When
    > You will receive $XXXX.00 around June 23, 2014.
    > This is the money you are due for April 2014 and May 2014.
    > Your next payment of $XXXX.00 which is for June 2014 will be received on or about the second Wednesday of July 2014.
    > After that you will receive $XXXX.00 on or about the second Wednesday of each month.”

    It is now July and the 2 months back pay has still not been deposited to my account. Is this normal? On my social security.gov they show my scheduled monthly payment but nothing of the 2 months back pay. Is this normal? I am assuming that the back pay may be handled by a separate office or division. Should I be concerned about the ball having been dropped? I hope you can shed some light on this.
    Thanks,
    Don

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Don,

      Because you were given a specific date that the back pay would be deposited, I would follow up with your local office. They can follow up with the payment center.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  111. linda evans says:

    one more thing if they went back to June 2012 my back pay will not start until jan.2013 for both ssi and ssdi right.
    Linda

  112. linda evans says:

    Dear Kay,

    update,my case went to qr now in atl. Ga. so now i have to wait until they review it before i here something now. They could not tell me if i was approved because QR could change everything. But he did let me know it was good news,so i knew then i was approved. He said he said we will be calling you in one to two week to update all your information. Ok my question is this they went back all the way to june 2012 after i was deined in aug 2012 i went back to work i made over the amount you are able to make in a month so in thous month i will not get back pay will i? Do I have to show them what i made for each month i was disable from june 2012 or how do they do that? I was told i would get 685.00 for ssdi and 36.00 + 20.00 for ssi if i was approved.They said 741.00 is all i can get for the both of them together, so do i do 685* the month i made less than able to make for ssdi and 36 for ssi tell me if you can what all i need to have ready when i get there so no more delays please.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Linda,

      There is a twelve-month maximum for Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits prior to the date of application. According to your previous posts, your current application was filed in April 2014. Based on that information and a disability onset of June 2012, your SSDI will begin to accrue April 2013 and your Supplemental Security Income will begin to accrue May 2014, unless you applied on the first day of April, in which case SSI will begin April 2014. You do need to provide a monthly breakdown of your work earnings by submitting pay stubs. There is a nine-month trial work period during which SSDI benefits continue to be paid. After that, you will not be eligible for any month you have substantial earnings ($1,040 in 2013 and $1,070 in 2014). Work affects SSI differently, but you have not worked since May 2014, so work is not an issue.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  113. linda evans says:

    Just to help out here ,I see people ask you how to get their conformation number to check their status only if a decision has not been made they can call their local office and they can give it to them, that is how i got mine only if they filed on line they can get one is what i was told.
    Linda

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Linda,

      That is correct, a confirmation number is issued only if the claim was started online.

      Sincerely.

      Kay

  114. linda evans says:

    Dear Kay,

    I talked with my Disability determination examer yesterday, and she told me she sent my case to her supervisor, so how long from there do I here something?I check the ssa .gov website and it still says the samething it did a month ago.I have my conformation number and still the same thing.How often does that website up date information on your case do you know and if you do not know does anybody eles know. linda

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Linda,

      I am unable to estimate how long it will be before you get a decision. The website will update when there is a change in status on your claim.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  115. Teresa says:

    my disability claim was denied in December 2012. I have a lowsey attorney and she knows that ive been waiting for something since Oct 2008. I won a claim I filed with ssa for a compassionate allowance rup with a letter from my DR describing the severity of my conditions. and asking that my case be reconsidered due to the fact I wasn’t on any medical I had a medical plan that was a mess. I couldn’t do anything to save myself because my insuarance would not cover anything.. My symptoms and diagnoses from prior DRs were wrong. instead of treating me for liver desease I am now at a MElD12 im in my last stages of cerhosis and its a very painful desease. Not to mention depression anxiety panic disorder ashma, fybromyralgia and not to mention it but im going to die a very painful death. the only thing Is that I don’t drink a lot and totally stopped in 2005 but never a alcoholic. due to all the perscribtions I was taking it totally killed my liver. my attorney took out payment for what I don’t know she didn’t file the compassionate allowance case. I DID>>she knows shes done nothing for me what a human being. Im concerned to why she hasn’t filed other forms the would get my appeal won. She has collected no medical info since 2012 and she has not even contacted my primary Dr for anything. I asked him to please help me and write a letter for me because I need to see specialist and transplant hopefully but had no insurance. The dates don’t match up/ they gave me back pay for 8 mos and I was diagnosed in June of 2012. and my backpay has paid everyone but in fact if I was approved I would not have to apply for aid from other government agencies. but I have to pay it back why are they not responsible for that. and why is my attorney not filling documents proving my eligibility because it is listed in the bluebook digest. and why didn’t she question the VE on the date I was denied those should of been instantly filed. they wont pay me the rest of my 8 month backpay for another 6 mos and then another 6mos. I really need that money and my attorney knows im in forclosure and have to move financially this is impossible. why did she tell me to contact ssa. am I really the one doing all the work while she sits and gets paid . literally I am a paralegal and this has been the worst experience ive ever been thru. I know what she can do. but she don’t and talking to her is impossible. her receptionist is so rude if I had the strength I would choke her. very rude and unprofessional. if you can give me any advise please do so id really appreciate it I feel like the world is against me and ive done nothing wrong. Not a good feeling and im very stressed out over having to move that’s gonna be fun. yeah right???? help me please 2098988558 all day every day

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Teresa,

      Your attorney was paid because you were still retaining her as your attorney when you got the decision, so she gets paid regardless of the amount of work performed. The attorneys’ duties end when you are approved so you do need to pursue getting your back pay on your own. Contact the Social Security Administration and request release of the full back pay because you are about to lose your house. If your condition is imminently terminal, you can also list that reason for early release.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  116. Irwin Duff says:

    Hello Kay…. I am one of the fortunate people who hired an Attorney and in about 4 to 5 months, I received a check from the treasury dept. for 12 or 13 months of SSD backpay. I am not even sure if my attorney was paid their 25% because the check came directly from the Government, not my Attorney. I told my Bank Manager today that the check I received today, I want to put in a new account only for SSD. I owe a credit agency $10,000 and wanted to make sure this check was not garnishable because the money wasn’t sent to an account using electronic depsoit. The bank Manager told me that only twice the amount of the monthly check going forward check can be protected from garnishment. Meaning if I get $2000 a month, $4000 is protected. The check I received today was over $20,000. I can NOT get a straight answer from anyone whether this money can be garnished if deposited by check, versus direct deposit. Can you please give me a definitive answer on what I thought was a simple answer. I have a very hard time getting hold of my attorney’s, so do you think the Attorneys were paid by the Treasury Dept and I was sent the balance? And I NEVER received any letter explaining my benefits, how I was approved, or anything but a check. Any help, especially the garnishment explanation would be very helpful as well if my attorneys were paid as I owe a lot of people money that I need to pay back. So I don’t know if this entire check belongs to me. And for those of you still sick and suffering, I pray that your case moves thru quickly with a favorable outcome. I thought I was going to die from anxiety waiting on an answer. I was so badly injured, broke, and had such major depression that I was hospitalized for 9 days. I empathize with everyone and just know God is watching over you and keep the faith no matter how hard it may seem at times.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Irwin,

      Your attorney has probably been paid directly. You should get an award letter within two weeks of getting the first payment. In the meantime, try calling Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 and have them check your computer record for attorney payment.

      I do not know the specific rules about the amount of benefits that can be protected from garnishment once they are deposited to a bank account. You could check with another bank to see if you get the same information or you could talk with Social Security. Another alternative would be to cash the check and buy money orders or cashier’s checks to repay your creditors in the order you prefer.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  117. N...Need says:

    Hi Kay.

    1.I became disable and stop working 6/2010, was on state disability from 6/2010-5/2011 filed for SSDI 9/2012…initial app & reconsideration was denied, if I’m approved (waiting for ALJ hearing) for SSDI how many months of back pay will I receive?
    2. I have full legal guardianship since 2007 over my 3 grandchildren will they be able to collect some of my benefits, if available or do they have to be my adopted grandchildren??

    Thanks so much in advance!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear N.,

      If you are approved and Social Security agrees you became disabled in June 2010, your Social Security Disability benefits will begin September 2012, twelve months before your application. Your grandchildren are eligible for benefits only if both their parents are either deceased or disabled and receiving Social Security or Supplemental Security Income Disability benefits. Otherwise, you would have to adopt them for them to receive benefits.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  118. shanna says:

    I am new to this whole SSI and SSDI thing. I have sooooo many questions but today’s question is for a friend of mine. She has been struggling for years with unknown illnesses that are being narrowed down to possible Lupus or RA. She talked to a lawyer today and they had told her that if she is awarded SSDI she would have to pay back any medicaid, food stamps or child support that she has collected. I thought you were awarded food stamps and medical if you can prove you live under the poverty level and the child support is a joke. Her Ex owes hundreds of thousands of dollars in back pay i think he has paid a total of $2k or less and their son just turned 16 and has several major medical issues. If it wernt for her mother the 2 of them would have been out on the streets years ago. Will she have to pay this back and why?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shanna,

      Your friend should find a different, more knowledgeable attorney. Food stamps, medical coverage, and child support do not have to be paid back if your friend receives Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or Social Security Disability (SSDI). She will likely have to repay cash assistance from the state or county received for the same months for which she is approved for (SSI) or SSDI; however, she would not have to repay cash assistance for earlier months.

      She should obtain an excellent Social Security attorney. She does not have to pay any legal fees up front and you will pay attorney fees only if you are approved for benefits. Social Security law sets the amount your attorney can charge and the Social Security Administration pays the attorney directly from your retroactive award at the time they send your back pay to you. So, it’s all very easy and risk-free.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  119. John says:

    Hello – Can anyone help with some questions?

    I finally received (Fully Favorable) SSDI decision May 16th 2014 after several years and a hearing. I’m happy but confused exactly what to expect -especially after reading some of the experiences written here.

    1.) I called SSA today and they said the attorney that handled my case was paid two days ago.
    ? – What is my expected wait time for back pay if my attorney has already been paid.

    2.) I have not received an awards letter, but have gotten the ALJ decision and the SSA website has been updated to show this, it even shows when my monthly payment begins
    ? – Possible to get back pay before awards letter. (How common, if so?)

    3.) Person I spoke with today at SSA indicated my claim is sitting at the payment processing center.
    ? – Does this fact indicate how quick I might get my back pay.

    4.) The SSA website indicates my first monthly SSDI payment will be 4th week of July.
    ? – Does this dictate when I might get my back pay.

    5.) I got an SSI denial letter to include a letter terminating Medicaid. I called my local SSA and told them I had been determined disabled. She confirmed per her computer. She advised I was entitled to still receive Medicaid based on my monthly SSDI payment. She said she will reinstate my Medicaid immediately but I must spend all of the back pay within 9 months to continue receiving Medicaid.
    ? – With her reinstating Medicaid, will her actions cause a delay in receiving my back pay?

    My main concern is an approximate time frame of getting back pay. Like so many others here I’ve exhausted all resources I had trying to survive the several year wait to get disability.

    I find it incredible the lawyer has been paid his fees already and I still have no idea when I might receive the back pay I so desperately need to pay back loans I’ve made from family members.

    Thanks for any answers might have.

    Sincerely

    John

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear John,

      Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay is usually paid one to three months after the first monthly SSDI payment. It is very rare that it would be paid first. I do not understand the statement about Medicaid. Medicaid eligibility is connected to SSI not SSDI, unless the state you live in has developed some special rules. After you have received twenty-four months of SSDI benefits including back pay, you will be eligible for Medicare.

      I wonder whether you are going to be paid SSI after all because your SSDI is below the SSI income limit. I ask this question because the representative talked about spending down your SSDI back pay and that would apply only if you could be eligible for SSI due to low ongoing SSDI.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  120. stephanie says:

    I have been receiving ssi for 8 years. I was recently approved for sad. I never received back pay for my ssd. But received a paper stating they took $27,000away from my ssd. Are they supposed to with hold that much. And should I have received back pay?

    Also my boyfriend has applied for ssi. If he is approved how much of his back pay can they take for back child support owed? We have 2 kids. And he has one that he found out about last year that just turned 6. We don’t know the laws or regulations for this.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stephanie,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay should have been reduced by the amount of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) that you received for the same months that your SSDI back pay covered. If it was several years, it is possible that the offset (reduction) is correct.

      SSI cannot be garnished for child support. If your boyfriend is approved for Social Security Disability, it can be garnished.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  121. Henry says:

    Hello Kay, I was awarded ssdi and ssi on April 22, 2014. My first check for ssdi will be on June 18. I was called to come in and finish my ssi application, and the ssi specialist said i won’t qualify for ssi payments, but i will be awarded back pay every six months. Will they reduce the amount of my first check of ssdi, or the ssdi lump sum? I’m expected to receive my first ssi check next 7-10 days. Can’t get a hold of my case worker, so do they update information on the website ssa.gov? Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Henry,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay will be reduced by the amount of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) paid for the same months. If you are no longer eligible for SSI, your full back pay should be issued in a single payment not in six-month installments. Item c) at this page of the SSA website describes this exception. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/416/416-0545.htm.

      Information is posted to your record, which you can access on the SSA website, but it is fairly general. The central phone service line is 1-800-772-1213.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  122. Jessica says:

    Hi,

    My fiancé was just partially approved for ssi. He is eligible for his back pay only, he will not be receiving anything monthly. We just got the first payment. Since he is not receiving anything monthly, can he get his full back pay amount at once? And if he can get the whole thing, will he be able to reapply for ssi? Thank you!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jessica,

      Your fiance should be able to get his full back pay because he is not eligible for ongoing benefits; however, perhaps not if he appeals the partially favorable decision. If he does not appeal, he can, of course, apply again though he may not be approved if the decision is correct that he is no longer disabled according to Social Security law or if his resources are above the resource limit.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  123. Minka says:

    Hello! I am asking you for your help as I am communicating for a family member who received a fully favorable decision for SSDI January, 2014. The family member received their 1st monthly SSDI pay via direct deposit on May 3rd, 2014. There is no SSI, child support, student loans, etc that would be deducted from the lump sum back pay, so an administrator from the local SSA office sent a request (to the payment center) as to what the status of the back pay was and an estimated time of completion and disbursement. She made the request 3 weeks ago. The payment center sent her a response on the 10 day (from the 1st day the request was sent) stating that they were working on it. The family member called the SSA 800# and was told that the file was completed on May 6th, 2014 and was sitting on someone’s desk to be typed. She went on to say that the back pay may not be released for another 60 DAYS! UNACCEPTABLE! The family member called the SSA 800# today and was blessed to speak to an excellent representative. She filed the second written request to the payment center in Baltimore, MD. She said the payment center had 15 days to respond, but to keep checking the bank account because the money may be deposited within that time frame. The family member is in dire-straits, so they called the local SSA office and were told that this had gone on far too long. The representative told my family member to stay-by-the phone because the payment center would be calling. They also said that large lump sum back payments required 3 signatures. That could be a factor that caused the delay. Why would the payment center call my family member? They need to type whatever documents needed, send the information to the Treasury Department and RELEASE THE FUNDS ALREADY!!!!! Please tell me your experience with this type of situation and why the payment center would be calling. Thanks.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mesha,

      I would not expect that your family member would receive a call from the payment center unless direct deposit information was missing, but it is true that it can take a long time for release of a large lump sum payment as it has to be approved by multiple people and claims are processed in the order received. Each person who has given you a time frame could be right. It could be between a few weeks to a couple months or occasionally more.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  124. James Love says:

    Hi Kay, I have received my award letter for Disability after a successful appeal hearing. The lump sum for back pay is quite substantial and I’m quite indigent at the moment and could really use that money asap. Currently they are still trying to process an SSI claim on me, which I’m confident I won’t be approved for. Even if I’m approved for SSI back pay, I believe that they will only deduct the SSI back pay from my Disability back pay. If I have that correct, wouldn’t I be better off in just waiving my claim for SSI (since not even the case worker thinks I’ll be eligible for monthly payments, but perhaps I’ll be due some back pay)? Expedience is of extreme importance here, and now for the SSI claim they are asking for paperwork for things that I don’t have easy or quick access too. I just want what I’m due at asap, nothing more. It’s been years. Thanks James

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear James,

      There are two reasons to pursue the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) application. If you filed your original applications before being off work for five full calendar months, you could be eligible for some SSI that would not reduce your Social Security Disability (SSD). Translation: more money overall. The second reason is if you have unpaid medical bills and are approved for SSI, you might be able to get some of them paid. I suggest checking to see whether that is a possibility. Lastly, if you had an attorney, you might be violating an agreement with him or her by withdrawing your SSI claim. Be sure that there’s no problem there.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  125. Jessica W says:

    My husbands ssa webpage changed today to include a section that states Disability and payments
    you are not currently receiving benefit payments.
    And a link to a verification letter that includes generic information and is DOB.

    Is this a sign that progress is being made in the way of an approval?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jessica,

      If the site previously showed your husband’s claim as pending, then I would say that a medical decision has been made and the remainder of the claim processing is pending.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  126. Ryan Birmingham says:

    Hi Kay,
    I have another question. I have applied for my spouse and 2 children to collect money from my social security disability and know that they will have to split half of my pay for the family max. My question is how does it work if my wife has her own work history? I read that they will pay her the higher of her benefit or mine. Will she receiver her amount as if she was disabled or is it a part of mine and hers or a percentage of hers. This way instead of splitting the family max 3 ways she can get a higher amount and so can the children. How does that work?

    Thank you.
    Respectfully,
    Ryan Birmingham

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ryan,

      If your wife is eligible for Social Security on her own earnings record, she will be paid her own benefit first. If her benefit is less than the amount she could receive on your record, her own benefit will be supplemented from your record. For example, if she were eligible for $700 on your record and only $600 on her own, then she would receive $600 from her record and $100 from yours.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  127. Ryan Birmingham says:

    Kay,
    I just received my letter from Social Security stating my 1st disability payment will paid on June 3, 2014. I called the office and spoke to the ssi manager and told her I didn’t qualify for ssi and she said that she would send a message asking them to release my ssd back pay as soon as possible due to hardship need. How long do you think it will take to receive my back pay from the processing center?
    Thanks for your help and quick response.

    Respectfully,
    Ryan Birmingham

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ryan,

      Even with a hardship rush and no SSI eligibility, it could be one to two months before the Social Security back pay is released.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  128. Alesia says:

    Hello Kay. I was recently awarded a fully favorable decision on my request for SSDI at a hearing with an administrative law judge. What exactly does the term “fully favorable” mean? Thank you for your assistance! Sincerely, Alesia

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Alesia,

      A fully favorable approval means that the judge found you to be disabled on the date that you claimed and that you are also approved for ongoing benefits in the future.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  129. Michelle says:

    I’m so confused. My ex husband was injured in February of 2011. He applied for SSDI / SSI and was approved. He is also receiving workers comp. He lives in MD and I live in DE. Our teenage daughter was also approved and I received a letter stating the amount she would be receiving monthly. I know that she is only receiving the cost of living amount right now of $18. Also, I believe that she is not receiving anything because of an offset. How long could it take to get this resolved? Once it is will she receive all her back pay? Also, do I have to provide any information to get this moving along. I know my ex won’t be on top of anything as long as he is receiving workers comp….Thanks!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Michelle,

      Your daughter is receiving only the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) amount because benefits being paid on your husband’s Social Security earnings record are being reduced by workers compensation offset. The offset is applied first to dependent benefits and then any remaining offset reduces the workers (your husband’s) benefit. You may be able to find out from the Social Security Administration how far out in the future the offset is projected. Assuming that your husband has been eligible for workers comp for all months of Social Security eligibility, your daughter will not be due any back pay beyond the COLA amounts because that is all she is eligible for.

      Best regards,

      Kay

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  130. Ryan says:

    Hello, my parents first applied for social security disability for me in April of 2011 I was 16 at the time. I have a hearing coming up soon with a judge to see if i will get approved or not. My question is, now that I am 19, if I am approved will I get back pay from before I turned 18? Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ryan,

      If your parents were applying for disability benefits when you were sixteen, they were applying for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits, not Social Security. If you are approved, the benefits will go back to April 2011. The criteria for being disabled before age eighteen is different than after age eighteen. Hopefully, the judge will rule on both so that is you were disabled and still are, you do not have to file a new SSI application to receive benefits as an adult. You or your attorney might ask the judge to address both.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  131. Jennifer says:

    When your child is approved for SSI and you go and give them all the information about your household and they finally start sending payments they told me that you only get a cash benefit starting the second month after you apply. They said the first month your child is eligible tho she qualified for Medicaid benefits but not a cash payment till the second month. I applied March 4 and she was approved in April. When they paid her benefit they only paid for april and may. So no cash benefit or SSI benefit for the first month that I applied in? Is this correct or do I need to call and talk to someone else?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jennifer,

      Your child was paid correctly. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is paid only for full months, not partial months, and does not pay for any period prior to the date of application. Therefore, no benefits were payable based on her March 4 application.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  132. Jarred says:

    How would I go about filing for disability 28 years after the fact of my birth

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jarred,

      I infer from your question that you have been disabled since birth. If this is so and you have not worked, then your option would be to apply for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) disability benefits. You can do this by calling Social Security at 1-800-772-1213 to request an appointment to apply. Also, if you are unmarried and at least one of your parents is deceased or receiving Social Security disability or retirement benefits, you could also apply for disabled adult child Social Security benefits on your parent’s earnings record.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  133. ms. john says:

    Hello, the question I have, I was single before I applied for ssd and ssi. Now I am married, my husband is a 100% retired disabled veteran. I have a 15 year old son, daughter 23, and a step grand child living in the home since he was 4 months old. I recieved a partial favorable decision dated back to june 2012 the month I married. My daughter has filed for disability based on mental illness. The letter instructed me to call because more information is needed to ddcide if they can pay me ssi. I have insurance threw my husband retiement benefit. What are my options? Can I ask for only the ssdi and skip the ssi. If I do this, will that interfere with my back pay since 2012. Help I need advice. I hope I made this clear enough for you to answer. Thanks in advance!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ms. John,

      You do not have to apply for Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Declining SSI will not affect your Social Security Disability (SSD) back pay.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  134. Raven S says:

    If my husbands hearing was on the 18th of march and the judge said “full favor” how long does it take to get an award letter and the first payment in Hawaii??? Also how long does the back pay take after that? Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Raven,

      How long it will take to get a formal written decision will depend on when the judge gets to writing it, which can be sixty days or longer. After that it can be another sixty days before payment starts. About five days after he gets the letter, if Social Security has not contacted him, he should contact them to provide any information or documents needed to get payment started.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  135. Raven S says:

    My husband just was given a fully favorable decision from the Judge on March 18th. We live in Hawaii and was told that they (SSA) had 30 days to send him his award letter that is supposed to let him know how much he would be receiving. We still do not have that and it is already the 25th of April. How much longer will it be before he even gets his first deposit for his SSD? Do you know how long it takes to receive the back pay in Hawaii? We cannot seem to get a straight answer from anyone.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Raven,

      Processing time varies from office to office. In general it can take sixty days or more after a favorable hearing decision to get the first monthly payment and longer for back pay. I am surprised that you were told thirty days; your office must be a little bit more caught up than many others. If you applied online, you can check to see if any payments have been authorized. If not, I suggest following up with the person who predicted thirty days to get a status report.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  136. L. Kauffman says:

    OK, guys, just general information. We have been going thru this for 5 yrs. This is how it went for us, maybe helpful. Yes, these folks are extremely rude. Do not take it personally and do not by any means give up. Get upset and do not allow them to put you off cause that is what they want. They act like you are taking money out of their pockets and apparently there is no control to insure they treat the American people who pay their salaries like human beings. It is apparently a universal problem within social security. RULE 1 Do not give up…. After all of the denials (problems here included, Heart – stent done and atrial fibrillation, Diabetes- 6 shots a day, Neuropathy which is caused by the diabetes and can not even pick up coin from a counter anymore and feet up to the knees full of pins, Herniated discs and degenerative disc disease, extreme high blood pressure, severe COPD, and several other things. Total of 30 medications on a daily basis thru the VA. Anyways, after all of the denials the first hearing with the judge got another denial. However, upon getting records that the SSA office had, we found that not only were there records that did not belong to me. But infact even if they did, they were way prior to the claim even being filed. However the young man they belonged to was a gay meth addict to top things off as so anything wrong with me was thrown to the wayside. Not only was most of it ignored within the denial, but there was reference to SSA doctors making determinations when in fact I never saw those doctors. Not only that but the judge made his own determination on what certain medications were for, and he was entirely wrong. The fact that the SSA job specialist who was in the hearing had said I could not work was totally negated and the judge now said I could climb ropes and a ton of other things which there was no way. RULE NUMBER 2-GET COPIES OF WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN THROWN IN YOUR FILES. Upon receipt of the records and the denial we went thru over a thousand pages of medical records ourselves, not the attorney, we did it. We found the records that did not belong to me, not the attorney And the adjudication judges ordered that info removed and it was still in there for the second hearing, was never removed even tho it was ordered so.. We wrote the rebuttal, addressing every incorrect issue within the decision. Not only that, but with the assistance of the internet, you can verify any and all meds and illnesses. RULE NUMBER 3 – Anything that is wrong on the decisions, rebut it, do not let it lie. If it is wrong, make sure every one knows it is wrong!!!! They change things to make it fit what they want and you, well, your out of luck folks. So the Adjudication judges reviewed everything and agreed that the decision was incorrect and needed to be looked at again. This took another year. Finally going before same judge for the second time, and he was ready from the get go to deny again until I opened my own mouth and shut down the attorney, who had been useless thru this whole procedure. Within 5 mins of beginning my testimony the judge agreed. Although he only allowed 3 yrs instead of 5, at this point, you take what you can get because you have been mistreated enough and are happy to have the approval. This was the end of November 2013. It took 90 days to get the approval letter. Meanwhile, not only have you not had Christmas’s, have pawned your life away, worry about where your next meal is coming from every month, run up every credit card to the hilt and a ton of other awful things. But now you have waited 3 months for the letter. Thinking when you left the courthouse that things were finally going to get better. but no. you wait some more. Finally on May 3rd I will be getting my first full disability check. As far as the back pay is concerned, I have been to the office twice in the last month to chase this down. And wow, I look on the social security website today and they have released a partial payment on the back pay. It is dated today, however dont know how long it will take to get into my bank account. Hoping tonight at midnight the bank has it in there, but dont know yet. Bottom line folks is that it is a sad dilapidated system and these people forget that you paid for this. It came out of your paycheck every month. And when you finally get approved, still, you are fighting those same people who move in slow motion because quite frankly, they do not care how hard it is for you. So do not let it go EVER. KEEP UP THE STRUGGLE BECAUSE ITS YOURS. I HATE BEING SICK, I HATE NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK. Heck I made a lot more money and life was a lot easier. And if for one second I moved in slow motion like these folks do on a daily basis, I would have been fired. FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT GUYS AND DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING QUICK OR FAIR. THIS IS NOT A FAIR SYSTEM.

  137. TaWana says:

    Yes I have been denied 3 times and I finally won my case after 4 years will I get that retro payback from when I started or no? I was told by a friend I wouldn’t only a year I just want to know what’s the truth please get back to me on that please

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear TaWAna,

      If the disability date Social Security approved for you was four years ago and the approval was an appeal of an original claim filed four years ago, then your benefits coldl begin to accrue that long ago. Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits will begin to accrue the later of your sixth month of disability or twelve months before the date of your approved original application. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will begin to accrue the month after the month in which you applied, unless you applied on the first of the month in which case benefits will begin to accrue for the month of application.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  138. derrick Olison says:

    If you receive ssdi and ssi and should be receiving back pay for both can one be deducted from the other?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Derrick,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) back pay will be reduced by the amount of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) paid for the same period.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  139. alicia says:

    I get ssdi and my child get on my claim if I was to get married would they take away my and my children income

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Alicia,

      Your Social Security Disability and child’s dependent benefits will not be affected by your marriage.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  140. Nichole says:

    I’ve been waiting on SSI for 3 1/2 years. I’m about to be evicted. I’ve exhausted all resources, local charities, churches, family, friends. I’ve contacted senators and congress people for help but have gotten nowhere. What do I do ? I’m in dire need. I even wrote a dire need to SSA. Sent copies of all notices , no response. Please help.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nichole,

      It sounds as if you have done everything you can. Unfortunately, I do not have suggestions unless you have sufficient health to work some small amount–enough to cover the rent. I wish I could be more helpful.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  141. Dave Patrick says:

    Sorry for my last comment, just upset with the system.

    I have past my 60 days can I call someone to find out where mine is.

    Thanks
    Dave

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dave,

      You can call the hearing office. Calling won’t speed up the decision, but you can check the status–whether a decision is still pending, a decision has been made and the appeal is in letter writing, or the letter is on the judge’s desk waiting for review and approval of the letter. (Note: The hearing office will not tell you what the decision is, just whether it has been made.)

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  142. dash says:

    today I went on ssi.gov to check my profile and it said that I got my back pay which was 2150.47 I was waiting almost 3 month so I was happy that was in the morning so night time comes and I check it again and it does not show it no more u got any clue y they put it on there then took it off

    • dash says:

      now it shows its back on there on my Social Security.gov but I still haven’t recive my money in my bank but it says on my profile that I got 2150.47 one time payment when will I recive it

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Dash,

        An electronic payment takes two or three business days to go through the banking system. If the payment doesn’t show up in your account by the 21st, I would contact Social Security.

        Regards,

        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dash,

      It is possible that the posting of a payment amount was taken down because an error is being corrected. I suggest you check it daily for a week. If payment doesn’t show up again, contact your local office and ask for an explanation of the posting and its removal.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • greg says:

        I got approved for ssdi in apirl 2014 in california and got my first payment for apirl this month in my may. But what happens to my payment in may and also what happens to my back patment that iwassuppose to be recieving and also. Whay did they say that they were going to give mr ssi and disabilty and they said they were not going to give it to me after all when i have a wife and three kids under the age of five.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Greg,

          I can answer one of your questions and need clarification from you to answer the second. Social Security is paid in the month following the month for which it is paid. This means that you will get your May payment in June, your June payment in July and so on. Dependent benefits are paid in addition to your Social Security Disability (SSDI) if your SSDI is high enough. Please clarify which benefit you were told you would not receive, SSDI or Supplemental Security Income (SSI)? Also, did they say that you were not eligible at all or not eligible for ongoing benefits, just back pay.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  143. LuLu says:

    I have a friend that I have been helping because she is slow in understanding things, and receives very little income. I believe she has been getting either SSI or SSDI. Not sure which. She is 53, has had some surgeries that went bad…and has some slight mental issues. She received a letter regarding her income and accompanying Medi-cal ins. that she said threatened that if she didn’t get the 50 pages completed and into the office in 4 days (end of Feb 2014) she will lose everything! Income and Medical. She has been going to therapy sessions which she said was required in order for her to get the financial and ins. help. She filled everything out overnight and gave it to her therapist for the dr. to complete and sign and they assured her that they would fax it to Soc. Sec. on time. Then there was the waiting…and they let the dr know that they were reviewing the paperwork. At the end of the 1st week in April the doctor told her that she couldn’t come anymore because they were taking away her Medi-cal benefits and her monthly payment. (which had already been direct deposited into her account) I help her save money for her property taxes and pay some of her bills online for her, because she doesn’t have a computer. I paid her bills and her prop. tx. before going out of town. After I came back, I found a “low balance alert” in my email, regarding her bank account..which I am linked up with…the low balance was “00.00″!!!! I right away got into her account and found that an additional account had been set up and all her money had been transferred out of her account and into this other account. Because I had been away over the previous weekend, I had no idea what was going on..so was trying to reach her by cell phone..no answer. Finally early that eve. she let me know what happened. She received no letter telling her that it was determined she was no longer eligible for the benefits or Medi-cal..her dr. told her. Then her account was cleaned out??? Leaving her penniless? In a panic, she went to the bank and closed her account and both her credit cards issued by the same bank. Right now, she is scared and angry…She managed to get a part time job helping in a dr’s office who would call her if they needed help. She has been working a few hrs. a day last week @$8ph. Why does SS have the right to take her money out of her account and leave her penniless? AND didn’t even send her a letter to warn her that she was no long eligible, and that any direct deposit already in process…she will have to pay back….etc, etc. This all sounds pretty criminal to me. Sorry this is so long. A concerned friend/mother image to someone in need.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lulu,

      First, your friend needs to appeal the closure of her claim if she is as limited as you indicate. In some circumstances if she files the appeal within ten days of termination, she can ask to have benefits continued during the appeal–though she might have to pay them back if the closure stands. On her appeal, she needs to declare her new work. When she appeals, she needs to get on record that she never got a notice and learned about it from her doctor and the reversal of the direct deposit.

      Second, the Social Security Administration does not have the ability to transfer your friend’s money to another account. Either she did it or she is the victim of fraud. Also, the fact that she had money to transfer to another account means her account was not “cleaned out” by Social Security.

      Third, Social Security does have the right to reverse a direct deposit payment of money that is not due, but they are supposed to give advance warning to termination of benefits.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  144. Dave Patrick says:

    I had a lawyer and we went to court on Feb 10, 2014, I’m on my 57th day if I was denied would I go a letter before now. I would think if it was denied I would get something sooner

    Thanks
    Dave

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dave,

      How long a decision pends is not an indicator of whether an appeal will be approved or denied.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Dave Patrick says:

        So what your telling me that they can make someone wait that long to denied them. It seem that they should get something sooner so the can do what they have to.

  145. Sabrina says:

    My daughter was approved for ssi in February and I was told she was to receive a little over 9800 for back pay. They sent about 2900 already but didn’t say when the rest of the back pay would be sent. How long does that part generally take? She is in serious need of a new bed and her monthly benefits are not enough to cover the kind of bed she needs while meeting her regular monthly needs. We are in Alabama. Thank you for your time.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sabrina,

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay over $2,163 is usually paid out in installment six months a part. One of the few excepts is medical needs. I suggest that you get a letter from daughter’s physician prescribing the kind of bed that your daughter needs. Then go to your Social Security office with the letter and documentation of the cost of such a bed and request release of all the back pay at once so that you can purchase the medically necessary bed.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  146. Pam says:

    I just got approved for disability.. just started getting monthly payments last month.. they gave me one back installment and say I have to wait another 6 months up to 18 months for them to pay me the rest back?
    I am in the process of losing my home waiting all this time, (2 Years) for them to make a decision.. finally a judge made the decision.
    Who can I contact to help me save my home before they foreclose on it.. and is there a way to get my back payments earlier so I can try and save my home? sorry for all the questions.. I am sure I missed a few.. I live in Mass. and need help to save my home now!

    Thanks,

    Pam

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Pam,

      Write up a statement that you need all your SSI back pay paid out now because your house is in foreclosure action and you need the money to catch up the payments to keep from losing your home. Take the statement and the documentation about the foreclosure with you to the Social Security office. Ask to see a claims representative. If you are told no verbally while you are in the office, ask to see a supervisor.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  147. Mark says:

    Family Max Disabilty Question:

    If your family max is 2000 dollars and you are drawing 1200 monthly, would the difference of 800 go to your one child if approved??

    Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mark,

      Yes, assuming no other dependents are eligible–such as a husband (you) who is caring for a child under age sixteen–the $800 in your example would be paid to your one child.

      Sincerely,

      Mark

  148. Heidi says:

    Hi, my fiance was finally awarded his SSDI around Aug 2013 and has received about 6 monthly checks but still no back pay. It was held up in the local office for about 3 months and finally got back to the payment center on March 4 and was told he should get it with in 30 days. He called once again and was told they have been working on it since the 26th and will prob be a few more weeks still. He was told a month ago that he should have gotten it 2 months after the judge awarded it. Its been 6 months now AND he did put in for emergency release and still nothing. Is this normal and what can he do to finally get his money? The back pay is very substancial. Thanks

    • Heidi says:

      He also doesnt owe a lawyer or anything else and never been on SSI.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heidi,

      There seems to be a big backlog of claims with back payments due. There is not much you can do to speed up the processing. It is promising that it is “being worked on since the 26th” because that probably means that it has been assigned to an authorizer and, although still waiting its turn, is getting closer to completion.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  149. Kim p says:

    Hi,

    So I was approved for ssdi and went down to the local office yesterday to answer their additional questions and give them my bank info for direct deposit. I was told at that time I would be awarded backpay for the past three months. She said that I would get it sometime this month. So on the social security website it shows a one time payment was made today. How long will it take for that payment to show up in my bank?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kim,

      It is likely to take two to three business days from the payment date on the website for the money to show up in your account and be available for withdrawal.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  150. rynaldo says:

    can someone please explain to me, why a 22 yo with no or limited work history, compared to mine, due to age only woiuld recieve a larger monthly check than myself, when I have a continous work history for 23 yrs prior to my disability, I had just heard this on a tv show about the amouth the 22 yo was receiving, and was shocked that someone that possibly couldnt have work as long as i is getting over $100 per month more than I. I am not saying that my earnings where enormous, but I made more than 20,000 per year when i began working at age 18, with substantial increases yearly from that point on for 23 yrs. just curious as to how this is possible. it was clarified that he is receiving SSD and not SSI, just as I do.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rynaldo,
      the formula for calculation of Social Security benefits is complex and has many variables built into it. There is a factor in favor of individuals with longer work histories than shorter ones, but that does not mean that in every comparison the person with the longer work history will have the higher benefit. The young individual you mentioned may have had very high earnings if receiving benefits off his own work record. It is also possible that he is receiving dependent or survivor benefits as a disabled adult child on the record of a high earning worker who also has a long work history.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  151. Mark says:

    Hello, My wife was approved for her SSDI back in AUG 2013. She is fixing to apply for our son to receive benefits drawing off of her. Our son is 15 yrs of age and of course not married and lives with us. Will they back pay our son from the time my wife started drawing back in AUG 2013??, or will they just start paying him the monthly payments from the date she applied for him? Thanks Mark – See more at: http://www.disabilityadvisor.com/social-security-disability-back-pay-2/#sthash.fX1iW24Y.dpuf

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mark,

      Whether your son is eligible for dependent benefits back to August 2013 or will be limited to six months back pay from the date of application depends on why she didn’t apply for him when her claim was approved. If she listed him on her application as a dependent and Social Security didn’t previously request her to submit documentation to get his payments started,benefits might be payable for the same months as she was paid for. Otherwise, retroactivity will be limited to six months from the month of application.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  152. ELLA ASHBY says:

    H ello i been receiving ssi for the past 8yrs. and just this past Feb 3th. i started getting another 224 a month from SSD they sent me a letter earlier this month on April 14th. saying i will receive a check for 1,192 but there’s no date i called to see when because they owe me 13,000 but said they can’t pay all that so im getting a settlement portion because of my ssi i been getting and the 224 im getting now but they lowered my ssi to 517 instead of the 721 i been getting makes no since to me im on even more meds now then when i started being on ssi 8yrs. ago she said i should get the check in 30 days of the letter which should be by the 14th.can you tell me when and will the 1,192 go on my direct express card?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ella,

      Social Security law requires reduction of Social Security benefits in any month for which you have already received SSI. That is probably the reasons the full $13,000 cannot be paid out. The back pay should go to your DirectExpress card.

      With regard to ongoing benefits, the amount of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) you are eligible for is not based on your degree of disability. It is based on your other income, if any. You previously received $721 because you did not have any countable income. Now that you have $224 Social Security, $214 of it reduces your SSI. The first $20 of the Social Security is excluded, so now your total income is $20 more than it was.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  153. tiffany says:

    I have been receiving ssi for 10 years, I was just approved for ssdi and received an award letter last week. I no longer qualifyfor ssi. They said they are with holding my back payments until they calculate deductions because I was receiving ssi. How long does thus process usually take. They told m o60-90days. I’m hoping it doesn’t take that long.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tiffany,

      Sixty to ninety days is an accurate estimate. If your Medicaid coverage stopped because your SSI stopped and you have not been eligible for Social Security for twenty-four months and, thus, eligible for Medicare, I believe that the termination of Medicaid is a qualifying event that will allow you to apply for medical insurance under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and possibly receive a government subsidy to help pay the premiums. If you wish to do this, you must do so within thirty days of receiving notice that your Medicaid is ending.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  154. Christina says:

    Good evening, I do apologize if this has already been answered.
    My husband is in the Med Board Process in the Army. We were advised by his Liaison to apply for SSDI. We applied in June 2013 for a disability onset of November 2012. We were denied the first time in July 2013, however we requested an ALJ hearing. We got a lawyer and filed the appeal. Since then, We received a letter from the ALJ office stating FULLY FAVORABLE with an onset date of November, 2012.
    My question is this, since he is part of the wounded warrior project through SSA, his process has been greatly expedited. Will his eligibility be reduced based on his income or does the wounded warrior part only take into consideration his substantial gainful employment?
    The lawyer said that since he is not doing his “job” in the army, he is not still gainfully employed. (he is supposed to fuel trucks and airplanes, but he can not do much of anything these days, and sits at a desk scanning ID cards)
    Thank you in advance for your advise, we are sitting here patiently waiting for this money and are in great need since I have been out of work for almost a year due to caring for him.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Christina,

      Before payment is calculated, your husband needs to report his activity in the Wounded Warrior program to Social Security right away. It does sound as if your husband is performing clerical work, which may be considered an occupation and the compensation for it may be considered earnings. The need to report is especially important if the judge was not aware of the work activity. I suggest that you call 1-800-772-1213 to request an appointment with a claims representative to discuss the situation. Take the date he started working and copies of the pay stubs for any compensation he receives.

      The amount he is earning, when he started working, and whether there are any special laws relating to the Wounded Warrior program as related to Social Security will all determine whether your husband’s work activity affects his Social Security claim and, if so, how. The following comes from Social Security’s website and refers to military pay received while filing for Social Security Disability:

      “Active duty status and receipt of military pay does not, in itself, necessarily prevent payment of Social Security disability benefits. Receipt of military payments should never stop you from applying for disability benefits from Social Security. If you are receiving treatment at a military medical facility and working in a designated therapy program or on limited duty, we will evaluate your work activity to determine your eligibility for benefits.

      “You cannot receive Social Security disability benefits if you engage in substantial work for pay or profit. However, the actual work activity is the controlling factor and not the amount of pay you receive or your military duty status.”

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  155. Robert Mangiameli says:

    I Kathie and thanks for all your information during this time in my life getting through this. I was awarded My benefits March 4. They told me my amount plus the amount of my back pay. I also applied for SSI after I received the award letter. will this hold up my back pay until SSI reaches a decision??

    Rob

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robert,

      If you have already received a Social Security Disability (SSD)award letter with payment amounts, the benefits should not be held up by your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) application. If any of your SSI back pay overlaps with months that you received Social Security, the SSI will be calculated considering the Social Security paid for the same months.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  156. Mark says:

    Hello,
    My wife was approved for her SSDI back in AUG 2013.

    She is fixing to apply for our son to receive benefits drawing off of her.

    Our son is 15 yrs of age and of course not married and lives with us.

    Will they back pay our son from the time my wife started drawing back in AUG 2013??, or will they just start paying him the monthly payments from the date she applied for him?

    Thanks
    Mark

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Mark,

      If your wife listed her son on her application and did not fail to follow through in getting him payment at that time, Social Security dependent benefits will go back to the first month her benefits began to accrue. If on the other hand, she did not list him on the application or did not respond to requests for information to get him into pay status, then the maximum retroactivity will be six months.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Mark says:

        Thanks Kay,
        Yes he was listed on her application when she first filed in FEB 2013. Be we had no clue that our son was entitled to any benefits and we had a lawyer handling my wife’s SSDI Claim. So now I guess my question is will we at least get his retro payments for 6 months if this gets approved?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Mark,

          I would say that your son will get at least six months back pay from the date of the current application for him, and it is possible that benefits will go back as far as your wife’s.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  157. pjwilliwmeon says:

    My grandson turned 18 in Feb still in high school and not expected to graduate until 2015. He was in the process of moving into my home with his mother and two sisters in Feb and paid rent in advance for March-April using gift cards I swiped into my paypal account of which I have receipts for. SSA lowered his SSI even though we told his case worker he pays for shelter, food and utilities out of his own SSI and Child Support His mom receives for him that SSA counts as his income. His mother’s only income is SSI for 2 children and child support of her son. We told them at the review he was paying his share of shelter costs, utilities and food out of his income, his review came back with a reduction and placed in category A as living in his own household, which I do not understand because they said he received too much income in March and was not eligible for any money at all but did not say where the income came from. They said he received $260 of valued help but he did not get because the only income his payee mother has is his and his sisters, Mom the payee pays for shelter costs, utilities and food for the sister out of her ssi as payee. SSA said he was not regularly attending school. I forgot to print up the rental contract we had and his receipts for payment of shelter cost and statement from his mother about how much food and utilities she paid for out of his money and give it to the case worker at the interview I forgot about it and she did not ask for it. I also am not sure his payee worded the statement correctly for payment of his share of utilities and food she buys for him out of his money and since it is his money how can they call it in kind support?

    • pjwilliwmeon says:

      Also SSA’s website says once your an adult they only count your income not your expenses which is confusing because if your a room mate like my case they split the cost of expenses by the number of people in the home and call it your fair share and if you pay less than your fair share you get a reduction, however my grandson pay over his fair share and should have not been lowered but he was.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear PJ,

        Please see my response I posted a few minutes ago to your earlier inquiry.

        SSA inquires about the household expenses to determine whether the individual is receiving in-kind income (shelter or food) from within the household.

        Sincerely,

        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear PJ,

      It sounds as if not all the needed information or documentation was submitted or it was misundertood. I suggest that your grandson’s mother file a request for reconsideration of the calculation of your grandson’s benefits. She must do this within sixty days of receiving the notice of reduction (sixty-five days from the date on the letter). With the request for reconsideration, you need to write up a statement of what the correct situation is. Before I list some things to be included in the statement, I will explain 1) “own household” means that he is paying his share of household expenses; and 2) changes in income, including receiving free or subsidized food or housing cause a reduction in benefit two months later. So, if they determined that your grandson did not pay his share in the month the gift cards were swiped into your account, the reduction would come up two months later. 3) The receipt of gift cards, which were apparently VISA or another card that could be used anywhere are countable income for SSI he received cards with total value of over $60 in one calendar quarter, so the cards might have been treated as income to lower payment.

      I suggest including the following in the statement: 1) the number of people in the household; 2) whether you all eat together or his food is bought separately 3) monthly itemization of amounts you received from your grandson and the form it came in each month (cash, money order, gift cards); 4) the amount of your rent or mortgage 5) average utilities (excluding phone); 6) average food expenditure for all of you, if everyone eats together.)

      Take the statements and all the documentation you have to support the statement. 1) Utility bills and rental receipt or mortgage papers; 2) all documents related to your grandson’s payments to you.

      Also, you daughter should write up a statement regarding the amount of the gift cards and the months in which they were received so Social Security can figure out whether the gift cards are excludable as irregular or infrequent income within the allowable limit or they are countable income.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  158. Layna says:

    Kay,

    You have provided a lot of helpful info and I thank you. I initially became disabled 12/2011, but didn’t file my first SSD claim til June 2012. Of course I was denied. I then got an attorney and we submitted my 2nd claim which was also denied. Next we applied for a hearing date, which I just got and is 5/1/2014. As I understand it, my back pay will begin with June 2012. By the time a decision is made it will be over 2 yrs. is this normal? In the meantime I’ve been living on my child support; will he take that in to consideration & possibly make it so my Check gets out to me more quickly? Also do they take into consideration how long a person has been in the system trying to get approved?

    Also I read where some people were on SSD & SSI, how can that be? What is the difference?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Layna,

      You are correct about the month benefits will begin if you are approved. It is normal for there to be an extended period of time for which back pay is due when the claim has to be appealed through a hearing. The judge does not have control over how fast your benefits start after you are approved. Processing of claims to get payment set up is generally handled chronologically based on when the approval is made. An exception is a claim that has been fast-tracked because of terminal illness.

      Social Security Disability (SSDI) requires amount of work and wages or self-employment that has been taxed for Social Security Insurance. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a public assistance program for individuals with countable income (including Social Security) below $741. Eligibility for SSI is determined on a monthly basis. Both programs require either being disabled or having reached a certain age and both are administered by the Social Security Administration. If a person’s Social Security is low enough, he or she may be eligible for SSI also.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  159. Melissa Henry says:

    My son was approved for ssi and I was told that they have to release his back pay to a bank account but I don’t have one and he doesn’t either and I can’t open one in his name or mine .. How do I go about getting his back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Melissa,

      Your son, or you if you are his payee,can request that the Social Security Administration have the Treasury Department set up a DirectExpress debit card to which payments will be made.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  160. Heather says:

    Hi,
    I recently got approved for Ssi in January and went to the social security office to give them all the information they need do you have any ideal when I should get my first check and about the back pay I applied in January of 2012 when I was at the office she said that they owe me back pay from that date when should I get my payments and how much should I get
    Thank you and have a great day

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Heather,

      I responded to your previous question based on your saying that you had applied for Social Security, not SSI. If you applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), then your back pay amount will not be more than $721 per month times the number of months since January 2012. If you have submitted everything and have not received a payment within two weeks of submission, I recommend following up.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • heather says:

        Hi,
        thanks Kay I talked to a lady today at the social security office she says that I won’t be getting my SSI payments until may 1st but she says there still processing the back pay do you know what that means cause I’m confused I guess I just don’t understand the whole SSI process I just need the money so I can take care of my 10 month old baby and also my estimated back pay is around 9,067 will they pay that to me in one lump sum or by payments
        thank you once again

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Heather,

          From what you said, it sounds as if your SSI (Supplemental Security Income) back pay will be received before your first monthly check. It will be paid in installments of $2,163 every six months,

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  161. chawanda belly says:

    hello.. my child was approve for back payment.. she receive her first payment september 14, 2013 they say 6 months she will receive her 2nd payment.. will it be sent on the 14 of that 6 month are will it the next month..

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Chawanda,

      My observation is that the calendar day the installment payments of SSI back pay are released varies and that the installments often aren’t exactly six months apart. If you have not received the second one by the end of April, I suggest following up with your local office.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  162. Shelley says:

    I was denied and put in my appeal paperwork, I got a letter stating that I passed the 60 days to appeal. I called and they said it is just Business days that count so I did appeal in time. She told me to take copies once again and get them stamped again. Will that help and is that the right thing to do? Or should I take another step. I am currently looking for an attorney. Just want to make sure that the 60 days is Business days. Thank You so much

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shelley,

      The sixty days is calendar days from the date on the denial letter. Plus Social Security allows five days for delivery, if they received it on the sixty-fifth day, it would be in time. The only time business days comes into play is when the last day for appeal falls on a weekend or federal holiday, then they will accept the appeal on the next business day.

      Obtain an experienced Social Security attorney. You do not have to pay any legal fees up front and you will pay attorney fees only if you are approved for benefits. Social Security law sets the amount your attorney can charge and the Social Security Administration pays the attorney directly from your retroactive award at the time they send your back pay to you. So, it’s all very easy and risk-free.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  163. Flor Martinez says:

    Hello Kay, I have been fighting a social security disability case since march of 2012. After my 3rd appeal, I received a hearing before a judge, who said he was deciding in my favor. I am a single mom, with no child support for my daughter, or any other means of income, therefore have been working a full time job for the last 5 months, because I HAVE to work to support myself and my daughter. The judge was fully aware of this and still ruled in my favor and said I would also receive the alotted back pay from when I initially applied 2 years ago. My question is, will the fact that I am working a full time job affect anything? Should I stop working? I have not received anything from my local ssi office, and do not know when my benefits will begin, therefore I am still working. I have to pay my rent and support my daughter, but everyday I get up and it is more and more difficult to work because of my disability. Also, I read a judge an approve my disability claim, but once the local office reviews it and sees I am working, they can deny it. Is this true? Will the fact I am working affect my amount of back pay? I am so confused, and I recently called SSI and the representative I spoke to was not helpful at all in answering any of my questions. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Flor,

      Because you started working after you had been off work for twelve months and because the judge apparently is going to find that you were disabled while off work, if your health did not improve when you returned to work, the first nine months of work (including the five you have already worked) will be considered a trial work period, during which benefits are payable. If you continue to work after nine months of work, benefits will be suspended (unpaid)for any months your are working and earning more than $1,070 gross per month. You could easily wait four months or more for a written decision and payment to start so continuing to work would appear to be financially prudent.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  164. gary delap says:

    I have been approved for my son ssi i have received my reward letter and its not enough to find us a place to live how do i get assistance for finding a place to live with that income can u help?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Gary,

      I suggest that you contact your state or county department of health and human services to find out what types of public assistance might be available to you and your family. You might also contact the state’s employment office to see whether they can help you find employment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  165. Maria says:

    Today is March 14,2014. I received notice today that my case has been approved for disability..I am now 62 and a widow. I began drawing widows soc sec checks when I was 60..I had filed for disability before I turned 60..I am reading that they will keep 6 months worth of my back pay..so if I was disabled march 2011 , my back pay starts AUgust of 2011 ? My 2 main questions are how long before I get my first check..I know the disability check will be more per month than my regular widows benefits check..not sure how much difference. 2nd question, would the back pay come in 2 different payments since part of the back pay will be for the full amount of the check..the rest would be the difference between what my check was and what it will be ..so with that being 2 different formulas for back pay, would that mean different checks for that reason or would they add the figures all up and do one check for the back pay..My husband made good money and I already received one of the highest amounts on my check but I think there is a few hundred dollars difference between the types of ss checks..
    Thank you.. Maria

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Maria,

      Your Social Security Disability back pay will be paid in one payment. It may be quite a while before you receive it because, as you pointed out, it has to be coordinated with the widow’s benefits you have already received. I suggest asking whether switching to your own earnings record will allow you to switch back to your husband’s record if that benefit would be higher when you reach full retirement age.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  166. chuck says:

    Dear Kay
    I applied for sdi in May of 2012, was denied in Nov and had a hearing in Oct of 2013, i received a fully favorable decision on Dec 19th of 2013,and was found disabled from Dec. of 2009. My disability advocate, Freedom Disability,put me in for ssi as well, without me knowing it so i was surprised when i got a call from my local ssa office wanting my info on my assets and such, I told them i did not apply for ssi but I found out Freedom had, this was on Feb 3rd and i got my denial notice 1 week later, Just got my award letter on Feb 19th and i thought i would see something on the 12th of March, but when ssa is slow you have to be patient so i have to wait till April, There was no mention of back pay or retro pay so i called and when they told me not to expect my back pay till the end of July i found it unacceptable, did i just get a bad agent or is this common, should I get my congress man involved or should i call back and speak to someone else, I know there very busy and i don’t want to be a pain but i have medical bills and such that need to be paid just like everyone else on this site, Thank you
    PS i know the ssi app slowed me down!!!!

    • chuck says:

      dear kay 1 more question, is back pay taxed before you receive it or do you have to make arrangements to have it taken out or do you just receive your money and hold it out yourself for the following years taxes, Thanks

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Chuck,

        Social Security is partially taxable for federal income tax if your adjusted gross income is more than $25,000 a year ($32,000 if you are married filing a joint return.Taxes will not be automatically withheld from your Social Security benefit. You can request federal tax withholding from Social Security benefits. You cannot request state withholding because tax laws vary from state to state. You should find out whether your state, if it has an income tax, taxes Social Security. If it does, you will need to submit estimated tax statements. If you want withholding from your back pay, contact your Social Security office and make a written request of the amount (percentage) you want withheld. (Just a note: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is not taxable because it is a public welfare program.)

        Sincerely,

        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Chuck,

      I am seeing that some people are waiting a long time for retroactive benefits to be released. Hopefully the representative is giving you the worst case scenario. Your SSI claim should no longer be slowing anything down because you were denied. You might want to call the representative and ask whether the information that the SSI was denied has been passed on to the department that releases the Social Security back pay. (Just a note: if you received workers compensation for your disability, that will lengthen processing time.)

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  167. Phalisha says:

    HELLO, I RECEIVED MY SECOND INSTALLMENT ON NOVEMBER 25 2014 SO WHEN WILL I RECEIVE MY 3 INSTALLMENT WHICH WILL BE THE LAST OF MY BACK PAYMENT FOR SSI

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Phalisha,

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay that is subject to installment payments is paid six months apart; therefore, your next installment will be in May 2014.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  168. Scott says:

    I was approved for SSDI. This was my forth time applying. Will I get back pay from the forth time I applyed or will it go back to my first time I applyed? First application was 2010. My forth and approval application was 6/2013.
    Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Scott,

      My response is based on the assumption that your June 2013 “application” was a new application, not an appeal. Your Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits will be paid based on your June 2013 application. Benefits will begin the later of the sixth full calendar month after the date Social Security found you to be disabled or June 2012.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  169. Eric Lewis says:

    Sir or Ma’am,

    My income tax was garnished by Social security administration for over payment of Social security benefits given to me when I was a child due to my fathers death. I am 55 years old and they just did it in 2014. Is there not a statue of limitations on recoupment of monies. I just think this is ridicoulous that i am repaying something that happened 40 years ago.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Eric,

      There is no statute of limitations on collecting Social Security overpayments from current benefits. You can apply to have them to collect a smaller amount each month.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  170. Ann says:

    I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis in every joint. I am currently a teacher but I don’t think I can make it to the end of the school year. My arthritis is documented, I have had it since I was 2 year old. I am the main “breadwinner” for my family and I have inquired about SSI and SSD. My main worry is insurance. If I have to leave my teaching job early because of disability, I’m assuming that my insurance stops. I was told that I’m not eligible for Medicare until I have had SSD for 2 years. What do we (my husband,14 year old daughter, and I do for insurance in the meantime? Are there any resources to help with mortgage, insurance, etc in the meantime?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ann,

      You may have some resources that you are not aware of. First, check with your benefits department to see whether you are signed up for short-term or long-term disability coverage. Check your medical insurance policy and look for the provision call “When insurances terminates” or something similar to see whether your insurance continues while on sick leave or while on short-term or long-term disability. Check your mortgage documents; maybe you signed up for disability mortgage insurance.

      If you lose your health insurance through work, you will have thirty days to apply for insurance under the Affordable Care Act (ACA)(Obamacare). When applying you will have a choice of plans and will be told how much if any of the premiums the government will pay. Note that there are tax penalties for not being enrolled in insurance, so this will be important to do. Alternatively, you will have the right to convert your insurance to a private policy under COBRA; however, COBRA overage is limited in time and is likely to be much more expensive than insurance obtained through the ACA.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  171. Ebony says:

    Dear Kay, I was approved for ssi and SSDI in december howeever I have not receivd a payment yet, I looked at my award letter on line and it doe not say anything about back pay although I filed in july 2013, will I recive back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ebony,

      Your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will begin August 2013. Your Social Security Disability (SSD) will begin the later of July 2012 or the sixth full calendar month after you became disabled.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  172. Jin'elle says:

    If my daughter has been disabled since she was a toddler & just got an approval for SSI is she eligible for back pay? If so when can I expect the payment?

    Thank you in advance for your help in this regard.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jin’elle,

      Your daughter’s Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will begin the month after you filed her application.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  173. Elaine says:

    Hi my son was denied they said its severe limitations even doe they have his paperwork from the u of m saying he has autism spectrum disorder. Also I was thinking should I apply for myself I have depression severe migraines and going blind in my right eye but I haven’t worked that much so would that play a big part in the decision they make

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elaine,

      A diagnosis alone does not mean that a person is disabled. Apparently, based on the information you submitted, Social Security found that your son’s condition was not severe enough to interfere significantly with normal functioning of a child his age. If you disagree, you have the right to appeal. As far as your applying for disability yourself, you must be unable to perform substantial gainful activity, which has a earnings guideline of $1,070 a month. If you think that you are disabled and have limited income and resources, you can apply for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which does not have a work-credit requirement.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  174. Jessica says:

    My husband was approved for SSDI on January 16th via mail (after an ALJ hearing) everything went well at first we were told his award letter was sent, it came with no real info, we called an where told he needed a payee, filled out all the info on January 30th at local office, they put in a dire need request, we were then told today it is still processing in the last step, what does this mean? Will his backpay show up soon? we are in dire need and wondering how long the “last step” can take.

    • Jessica says:

      we do know that his first monthly payment is march 3rd.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Jessica,

        I did not see this second post when I responded a few minutes ago to your first inquiry. Now that you know the date of the first monthly payment, it is easier to estimate when back pay will start–by the end of April or earlier.

        Sincerely,

        Kay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jessica,

      Usually the first monthly payment is released, followed a few weeks later by back pay. Unfortunately, I can not predict how long the “last step” will take, but I can say that it is often takes two months from the date of the hearing approval letter to first payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  175. Ashley says:

    My son was approved for ssi I went in for my appointment and they told me his monthly amount and back pay amount will he start getting his payments next month or no and they told me he will get his back pay in a check of 1442 in 7-10 days in reading others questions is that true

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ashley,

      I assume that the representative gave you an accurate estimate based on his or her knowledge of the current status of your son’s claim. There is no reason to doubt it because some claims do go through smoothly.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  176. Elaine says:

    Hi applied for my son ssi in November and this will be his second testing paid by ssi does that he is closer to being denied or approved. They have all his information from the u of m and his iep from the school

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elaine,

      Given the documentation you have provided and the fact that your son has had a consultative examination, yes, I believe that you are close to receiving a decision on his claim.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  177. Joe Puffer says:

    You haven’t read my post in another one of your forms Mrs Kay :(

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Joe,

      At this point, I believe that I have read all your posts. Please see the response that I wrote a few minutes ago under another question.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  178. L KITTRELL says:

    My Dad was expecting to receive back pay from social security. The regular checks are made payable to his name in care of me. He told me that the payment was coming within the next week or so. My Dad has died this Tuesday. Will I be entitled to use the back pay for his final expenses, since my name is on his checks?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear L.,

      I am sorry for your loss of your father.

      You cannot use your father’s benefit checks for any purpose. You need to report your father’s death to the Social Security Administration (SSA) and return all uncashed checks to SSA. SSA will then reissue any money due to your father through January 2014 to the individual prescribed by law. See excerpt from Social Security’s Procedural Operations Manual below for the order of priority for paying out the underpayment. It will be paid to the person who meets the description highest in the list.

      § 404.503. Underpayments.

      Underpayments will be adjusted as follows:

      (b) Individual dies before adjustment of underpayment. If an individual who has been underpaid dies before receiving payment or negotiating a check or checks representing such payment, we first apply any amounts due the deceased individual against any overpayments as defined in § 404.501(a) owed by the deceased individual, unless we have waived recovery of such overpayment under the provisions of §§ 404.506 through 404.512. We then will distribute any remaining underpayment to the living person (or persons) in the highest order of priority as follows:

      (1) The deceased individual’s surviving spouse as defined in section 216(c), (g), or (h) of the Act who was either:

      (i) Living in the same household (as defined in § 404.347) with the deceased individual at the time of such individual’s death, or

      (ii) Entitled to a monthly benefit on the basis of the same earnings record as was the deceased individual for the month in which such individual died.

      (2) The child or children of the deceased individual (as defined in section 216 (e) or (h) of the Act) entitled to a monthly benefit on the basis of the same earnings record as was the deceased individual for the month in which such individual died (if more than one such child, in equal shares to each such child).

      (3) The parent or parents of the deceased individual, entitled to a monthly benefit on the basis of the same earnings record as was the deceased individual for the month in which such individual died (if more than one such parent, in equal shares to each such parent). For this purpose, the definition of “parent” in § 404.374 includes the parent(s) of any deceased individual who was entitled to benefits under title II of the Act.

      (4) The surviving spouse of the deceased individual (as defined in section 216(c), (g), or (h) of the Act) who does not qualify under paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

      (5) The child or children of the deceased individual (as defined in section 216 (e) or (h) of the Act) who do not qualify under paragraph (b)(2) of this section (if more than one such child, in equal shares to each such child).

      (6) The parent or parents of the deceased individual, who do not qualify under paragraph (b)(3) of this section (if more than one such parent, in equal shares to each such parent). For this purpose, the definition of “parent” in § 404.374 includes the parent(s) of any deceased individual who was entitled to benefits under title II of the Act.

      (7) The legal representative of the estate of the deceased individual as defined in paragraph (d) of this section.

      (c) In the event that a person who is otherwise qualified to receive an underpayment under the provisions of paragraph (b) of this section, dies before receiving payment or before negotiating the check or checks representing such payment, his share of the underpayment will be divided among the remaining living person(s) in the same order of priority. In the event that there is (are) no other such person(s), the underpayment will be paid to the living person(s) in the next lower order of priority under paragraph (b) of this section.

      (d) Definition of legal representative. The term legal representative, for the purpose of qualifying to receive an underpayment, generally means the administrator or executor of the estate of the deceased individual. However, it may also include an individual, institution or organization acting on behalf of an unadministered estate, provided that such person can give the Administration good acquittance (as defined in paragraph (e) of this section). The following persons may qualify as legal representative for the purposes of this subpart, provided they can give the Administration good acquittance:

      (1) A person who qualifies under a State’s small estate statute,

      (2) A person resident in a foreign country who, under the laws and customs of that country, has the right to receive assets of the estate,

      (3) A public administrator, or

      (4) A person who has the authority, under applicable law, to collect the assets of the estate of the deceased individual.

      (e) Definition of “good acquittance.” A person is considered to give the Administration good acquittance when payment to that person will release the Administration from further liability for such payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  179. Marla says:

    Hi Kay,
    My husband has not been able to work for over a year and a half due to mental illness. He was actually a drug addicted foster baby who had numerous problems throughout his childhood. Luckily, he has a wonderful adoptive family who ensured he had counseling and support throughout his life due to the numerous problems associated with his developmental issues from his premature birth. We had a baby in May of 2012 and my husband has been incredibly ill since his birth. He is currently in therapy 2-3 times per week and just completed a 30 day brain wave treatment that was aimed at targeting his depression. We applied for Social Security in April of 2013 after his anxiety attacks became so debilitating that he was unable to work (even at his low stress job at the gym). He was denied after his original interview, but after they went through the paperwork again, and sent him to their doctor for review. He received the phone call today that he has been approved due to the fact that he is not able to work due to his mental illness and is unable to support his family. He was told that he would receive his first check in the mail in 10 days. When we first applied, we were told that he would receive payment starting from the date he applied if and when he was approved (maybe because his disability is life long and not something that is based off of an injury or that will improve?). Nothing was mentioned about back pay when he spoke to the representative today and he doesn’t feel comfortable inquiring. Do you know anything about back pay and if it would be appropriate to ask? He has not worked in almost a year and prior to that, was only working sporadically and had many leaves of absences due to his illness. He has had numerous ER visits and about $45copays/week in bills for his psychiatrist/therapist plus very expensive medications. At this point, I am so happy that I have a wonderful job with insurance that he is under as I have no idea where we would be without the amazing doctors that he is able to see each week. I am hoping that we will receive some sort of back pay as was discussed originally so I can pay down the credit card debt that all of this has caused. Our original worker left on maternity leave and is not returning. Please advise.
    Thank you so much for your time.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Marla,

      Social Security Disability will be retroactive to the later of twelve months prior to the date of application or the sixth full calendar month after the date on disability onset that the Social Security Administration determined. (Your husband should receive a letter telling him the date of onset that Social Security accepted if it is different from the date he claimed.)

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  180. Chris says:

    I got awarded ssi and ssdi with a back pay totaling $12,000 I received a check for $2,100 February 2nd tjen yesterday I receive a letter stating my next retro payment will be 6 months from now, and then again and again until I’m fully paid, totaling 3 years it will take them to completely pay me. My question is this, is it common practice for them to pay small increments in 6 month intervals?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Chris,

      Supplemental Security Income back pay is paid out at three times the maximum monthly benefit ($2,130) every six months. Social Security Disability back pay is paid in a single lump sum. sometimes an exception to, or modification of, installment payments is made if you have unpaid medical bills or need a larger amount released to catch up back rent or mortgage payments.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  181. Shawn says:

    I get ssdi and I got my first back pay check what is the time gap before they issue another check or the rest of the back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shawn,

      The monthly benefits will be paid one month apart. Back pay can take from a couple of weeks to a couple months.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  182. Kim Ess says:

    I’ve been reading over some questions and saw some about overpayments. I’m receiving my benefits starting the 28th for SSI an march 12 for SSD after a long over 4 year court process. I was told I would get two $2000 payouts every 6 months and then get the rest paid back in one lump sum. So when I saw an overpayment of a little over 2100 I figured that was for my back pay, but that means that I OWE that amount? I haven’t gotten any payment in the last four years, why would I owe that amount or is that actually my backpay? This is all so confusing :( I’ve been trying to get help since I was 19, and at 23 it’s not any clearer lol

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kim,

      I suggest that you gather together all the letters that you have received about your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Social Security Disability (SSD) and ask someone you know who is really good at business stuff to read through them to see if an explanation can be extracted from the letters. If you do not have that resource or the review does not help, take the letters to a Social Security office and request an explanation of the information in the letters, asking first whether you overpaid or the $2,100 referenced in the letter an SSI offset so that you don’t get paid double for the same period, in other words, is your SSD lump sum being reduced for SSI due for the same period.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  183. DIANE KELLEY says:

    Hi
    I just got approved for SSDI. I am on comp now. Does this mean I no longer can get a lump sum settlement so I can pay all my bills I am behind on since I was hurt. I don’t want to make money but I want to be able top pay my bills. This seems unfair. This comp injury whs caused my total disability

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Diane,

      There is a limit to the amount of Social Security and workers compensation you can receive for the same months. The limit is 80% of your average earnings, as Social Security law defines average earnings. This amount is more than you would receive from either program by itself, so you may receive some retroactive Social Security benefits.

      If in the future you get a lump sum workers compensation settlement, the settlement will be prorated out over a period of time defined by law and offset against Social Security benefits. It is important to report all workers comp benefits and provide any letters or check stubs you may have to document the amounts. It could be a good idea not to spend a lump sum settlement from workers compensation until you know whether you will need to use part of it to repay Social Security and whether the settlement will reduce future monthly Social Security payments.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  184. Terry Willis says:

    Hello Kay,
    As I said I would, here is the information on my case.

    In 2009 I was awarded SSDI benefits for injuries sustained in combat. In Feb 2012 those benefits were stopped because SS said they no longer found me disabled and because I was working (which I was not working). I attempted to get hired but because of my medical conditions, I could not work. In Feb 2013, I went to the local office and spoke with them, and they filed a new claim with an onset date of Feb 01, 2012 (when benefits stopped)

    Applied: 02/26/2013
    First denial: 06/21/2013
    Filed Request for Reconsideration: 06/27/2013 (Military Casualty/Wounded Warrior flag added to my file)
    Reconsideration denial: 08/13/2013
    Hired attorney: 08/13/2013
    Request for Hearing: 08/19/2013
    Hearing: 12/02/2013
    Decision Made: 12/26/2013
    Decision Received: 01/02/2014
    Checked My Social Security Website 02/10/2014 and it stated next payment 03/03/2014
    Checked My Social Security Website 02/11/2014 and it stated “one time payment $xx,xxx.xx (about 9k shy of what my bp should have been after lawyer fees)

    What I have found out is that they did reinstate my benefits from the date they stopped and there is no 5mo waiting period. The Critical Congressional Unit was involved in my case because of improper handling of the type of case.

    Thanks for your input on my inquiries and the things you do on this site.

  185. Nelle says:

    I was approved for both ssi and ssd and have already recieved my first months payment for February.. I received a letter stating that I will receive back payment of almost $17,000 for ssi and almost $15,000 for ssd.. Now here’s my question.. I have seen in previous post that the back payments will be coordinated what does that mean?? Does that mean I won’t get $32,000 all together.. I understand lawyers fees and all that but not sure what this whole “offset” and “coordinated” terms mean?? HELP

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nelle,

      The Social Security Administration does not pay duplicate disability benefits for the same period of time. Usually Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is paid first and then the Social Security Disability (SSD) retroactive pay is reduced by an amount equal to the SSI paid for the same period. Based on the figures that you provided, it appears that after the SSI offset (coordination of benefits) you will not be eligible to receive any SSD back pay.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  186. timothy Farmer says:

    My “wife was approved for disability. We hired an attorney. She recvd a call today letting her know she was approved for a total of 1880 , 1280 for her and 600.00 for our son. On the application the attorney lested us as married, but, we were never actually married, when they called today she were questioning her and she told them we had been together 11 years but never actually married, this was a mistake on the attorenys part, they said they would have to call back. how will this effect her benefits.???

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Timothy,

      If your “wife” is eligible for Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits, the fact that you are not married will not affect her or your son’s Social Security benefits. If she also applied for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the Social Security Administration (SSA) may have denied her SSI or paid her less than she was due because they considered part of your income because they thought you were married. If she did provide information about your income to Social Security, she needs to go in and correct the record.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  187. manny says:

    I have a question!
    My mom was receiving ssi from me. Which I found out till I was 21 and I never received any of that money. My mom was the one to use it since it was direct deposit in her account.. I just found out after she was overpayed 12,000 . now its on my social records is there any way to move that from my social since i wasn’t getting any of the money? Or is there any way that I can get the money that I never got

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Manny,

      What I understand from your inquiry is that your mother was representative payee for your benefits while you were a minor and perhaps after that. If you lived with her and she used some of the money for the household’s rent or mortgage and utilities and provided food and bought you clothing, and paid for school and medical expenses, then the money was probably spent for you. If that is the case, you did get the money because it was used for your benefit.

      With regard to the overpayment, you could try filing a request to have repayment of the overpayment waived because your mother was responsible for reporting whatever events caused you to be overpaid. You could ask that the money be collected from her, rather from your benefits. If that request is unsuccessful, you could ask it they can collect it a small amount at a time.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  188. penny says:

    They stop my ssdi for Feb because I was working I am no longer working I went and ask for a exr how long does it take and if I worked will my ssdi go up

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Penny,

      I think that you meant to write that you applied for an expedited reinstatement of benefits. Expedited means that the claim for reopening will be processed faster than the average new claim, but I cannot give you a specific time frame.

      If your recent work earnings are enough higher than the lowest year of earnings used to calculate your original benefits, you will receive a small increase beginning January of the year after the work was performed. This recalculation, called an Annual Earnings Recalculation Operation, is done automatically in the second half of the year following the year in which you worked and after the IRS computers (which handle credit of Social Security taxes) interface with Social Security computers.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  189. Angela Lynn says:

    I was approved for SSD and was told I would get a year of back pay, but my payment schedule wasn’t decided yet. At this point I am owed 15 months of back pay. My minor child did receive his back pay last month (he gets 50% of my benefits in his name) This weekend was my 1st regular monthly check for Disability. But I was wondering when will I get my back pay. I was told it would they needed to adjust my SSI payments I only received about $600 before I got my regular payments. How soon after regular payments start do most people get their back pay?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Angela,

      If you have not received your Social Security Disability (SSD) back pay by the end of the month, ask for an appointment with the claims representative to follow up on the release of the funds. Specifically, ask the representative to check to be sure that the department handling the release has all your SSI payment information.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  190. francine says:

    My son receives SSI . His 2nd backpay check was due to come this month January. Its now the 31st of January and the money is still not in the account. What could possibly be holding this deposit up? I called my worker for my sons ssi but got her voice mail. What should I do to find out?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Francine,

      If you do not hear back in three work days, try calling again or, if you can, go to the Social Security office to follow up.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  191. cindy says:

    Hello..
    I had a hearing on Dec 12.,13..i havent rec,d notfication is of yet however i duid check my account on the SS Web page and usually it says we are unable to give you your benifits at this time because you recent applied for
    disability..this time ..it had my earning and what i wld recd if i were disable or if i were to
    retire. it still says you are not recieving benifits at this time..does that mean i was denied at hearing.
    You..Thank

    • cindy says:

      Ok..nevermind..i got my decision and i was denied. I will not fight it..besides i heard that if you dont win at hearing then you just wont win..I have loss everything fighting this..my house..my vehicle..my pride..and soon my husband of thity years.. ITS certaily not fair or right..im 53 yrs old. I dont think i will find work that isnt going to effect me.. I guess ill have to stop all meds as well..just in order to work. The sad thing is i know younger people who have what i have but i also have added issues that they dont have and they recd ..So DDepressed..Im done!! Thanks.

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Cindy,

        If you believe you are disabled and that the hearing decision was in error, you have the right to appeal the judge’s decision. There are cases in which claims that have been appealed to the Appeals Council have been remanded to the judge, resulting in an approval. The judge’s denial letter should include information about your appeal rights. Your local Social Security office or their call center (1-800-772-1213) can provide the address in Virginia to which you would send the appeal, if it is not in the letter.

        Sincerely,

        Kay
        Sincerely,

        Kay

      • Marty says:

        Cindy, don’t give up. My wife applied in 2010, was denied, retained attorney who filed request for reconsideration (denied), had ALJ hearing Jun 14, 2012 (denied) then attorney gave up, so we retained another attorney who filed request to appeals council who vacated original ALJ decision, had another hearing with same ALJ on Jan 14, 2014 who entered a fully favorable decision on Feb 21, 2014.

        Now on Mar 24, 2014, almost four years since application, we are waiting for award letter, but the point is that if you are disabled, DON’T GIVE UP.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cindy,

      I don’t think that the change in information on your record is an indication of either denial or approval. You will receive a letter from the judge with the decision. The period it takes for a decision is often at least sixty days.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  192. LaShawnda P says:

    I was just approved for SSDI and this is my second time applying. The first time I applied was in 2011 and I was denied and became discouraged. I was encouraged to apply again in July 2013. I was told I was approved on January 29, 2014. The date they gave me that I became disabled was May 1, 2009. So my question is How far back will my back payment be? 2009? 2011? or 2013?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear LaShawnda,

      Your benefits will begin to accrue at least on July 2012, twelve months before your current application. There is a possibility that your prior claim could be reopened administratively even though you did not appeal. If the prior claim is reopened, then benefits would go back to twelve months before your application in 2011. You might point out to the claims representative that your approved date of disability is before your prior application and ask whether the prior claim can be reopened.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • LaShawnda P says:

        They did open my prior claim and decided that I will receive retro pay from Nov 1st 2010. How long does it take to even receive the back pay?

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear LaShawnda,

          It can take up to sixty days or longer after you receive the judge’s letter to get monthly benefits started and a month or six weeks after that for back pay.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  193. Kristina says:

    I had my disability hearing on September 24th, 2013. The judge ruled on October 10th for a fully favorable decision and that my onset date was May 30th, 2011. I have received 3 monthly checks so far, but no word on my back pay. They told me it would be at the end of November, then it came and went. Then it was the end of December, it came and went. It was then by the 3rd monthly payment, and it has come and gone. Now they are saying February 15th. My lawyer hasn’t even been paid yet. Where are their “checks and balances” …??? I know to try to be patient, but I waited so long I finally have insurance now and need medical attention that I cannot get because of transportation and lack of funds for medicines. Any suggestions????

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Kristina,

      I wish I could offer a conclusive solution for you. The fact that your lawyer has not been paid could indicate that they just have not gotten to your claim. On the other hand, You do not say whether your claim is for Social Security Disability (SSD) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI). If it is for Social Security only and not SSI, you might ask Social Security whether the hold up is related to the mistaken understanding that SSI offset would apply. Ask them to double check that the SSD reviewer knows that you are not eligible for SSI.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  194. candace says:

    I received approval for both Assistance and social security will I get back pay for.both I’m owed 10321.00 in Assistance but they haven’t said anything. About social security back pay do the checks come from the same processing center and they say I’m getting a deposited for 167.00 what is that for I Co got that money but I haven’t got no more money but they said would get a paper check Jan 31 for Assistance then in Feb I would get 504 for social securtiy please tell me wats happen

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Candace,

      I do not have enough information to say for sure what is going on with your benefits partially because I do not know for sure what you mean by “assistance.” (Watch for determination letters and have someone help you understand them if need be.) I can provide some general information. Social Security disability (SSD) benefits will not be garnished (withheld) to repay assistance received from a state or local assistance program. If you have the obligation to repay, you will have to use the back Social Security to do so yourself. On the other hand, if you have been approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the amount of assistance you have received from the state or county will be withheld from your retroactive SSI benefits and paid to the assistance agency.

      If by “assistance” you mean SSI (not assistance from a state or county agency), then your back Social Security will be reduced by the amount of SSI you have been paid for the same months. SSI and SSD are both administered by the Social Security Administration, but different components are responsible for initiating payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  195. Terry Willis says:

    Hey Kay,
    Its me again. I thought I would start a new section. Here is my complete story and then the question will follow.
    In 2009, I received a fully favorable decision for SSDI. In October 2011, I received a notice that they no longer found me disabled because I worked, which is not true. I had also attempted numerous times to reschedule a continuation exam, but was never granted that request from SSA. They discontinued my payments February 1, 2012. I was discouraged at that time and didn’t feel like fighting with them to continue benefits.
    After a year of trying to work, and failing at that because of the medical situation, I refiled for SSDI in February 2013 with an onset date of February 1, 2012. My file was expedited due to it being a Military Service Casualty Case and my conditions were a result of armed conflict. I received a fully favorable decision on December 2, 2013 and the Notice of Decision on about the 26th of December. My file was then transferred to the Baltimore Payment Processing Center. Today, I received a call from my attorney stating that the payment center had processed my payment on an earlier date but the computer system kicked it back for some unknown reason and asked for it to be reworked. My attorney didn’t know what the reason was, but they have been paid.
    Here are my questions:
    Would you happen to know what might cause the system to “kick back” my payment file? All banking information is correct and I never received SSI, workers comp, unemployment, ect…
    Do you think that the reason could be that they are just going to just start paying me from when they stopped instead of doing the whole 5 month waiting period?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Terry,

      Any input error could have caused the system to “kick back” the attempt to set up payment. You would be eligible for reinstatement of benefits beginning February 2012 only if your benefits really did stop because of your work. (There is an Expedited Reinstatement provision for people whose benefits stop because of work and who become disabled again (stop work) due to the same condition within five years of when benefits stopped.)

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  196. tammy says:

    Dear Kay, I received a fully favorable letter for ssd on Dec 17, 2013. I able scheduled to receive my first payment in Feb. I called my local ss office to inquire about my backpay. I was told it was in the payment center pending due to ssi. I am not elgible for ssi so an email was sent yesterday to release the the back pay since there is no ssi just straight. Ssd. My representative told me this morning which is Friday Jan. 24 that since the payment center sent receipt saying they received the emal that the back should go quick. She said possibly a couple days maybe by Tuesday. My question is is this true and what steps are taken to release the back into my account? Is is just a press of a computer key or is it a little more detailed?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tammy,

      The information you received appears reliable and, yes, a code just has to be updated on your computer record to show no SSI eligibility. This will release your retroactive benefits.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  197. Liz says:

    My ex-husband has applied for SS. I however know nothing about social security, excuse my ignorance. He has applied due to bi-polar disorder & is currently on long term disability, that will end soon. He does pay child support, a very low amount that truly does not help very much. I am the custodial parent. Will my children be getting additional money from social security ? I want to make sure he is not getting money for our children. Will I get notified he has applied?
    Any help would be appreciated !
    Thank you !!!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Liz,

      The Social Security Administration (SSA) should be in touch with you if your ex-husband is approved for Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits and the children are eligible. Children’s benefits would not typically be paid to the non-custodial parent. If you learn that your husband has been approved and you are not contacted by SSA within a month, contact them. You will need your ex-husband’s Social Security number for reference.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  198. Stephanie says:

    I have a question. I just found out that Ive been approved for both SSI and SSDI. I got my first SSD check last week along with my award letter. In my award letter it stated that the date they found me disabled was Nov 20,2012 but that I wouldnt be eligible for benefits until May 2013 and that my monthly benefits wouldnt begin until Dec 2013 because they are witholding my benefits from nov 2012 to may 2013 because they are still processing my SSI case (which I also got approved for but havent gotten paid yet) . Can you explain this to me in ways I can understand whats going on and should I be receiving any back pay at all?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stephanie,

      Your Social Security Disability entitlement starts in May 2013 because there is a five-month unpaid waiting period (December 2012 through April 2013.) You have not received your Social Security back pay because it has to be coordinated with your Supplemental Security Income (SSI) back pay. Once this coordination has been completed, you will likely get an SSI retroactive payment before your Social Security back pay, which will be reduced for SSI paid for the same period.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  199. Aylah says:

    I first applied for ssd when I was 18, and I was denied. Now I am 22 years old and I have been approved. I have been told by several different sources (including a lawyer) that I will be receiving back pay like however much they are going to pay me monthly times however many months it has been since I first applied. Is this true? If so, how long will it take to get that? Also, what is the best way to get my checks expedited? I am in a VERY VERY tough spot in my life right now, and I have absolutely NO money, and when I say that….I literally mean NOTHING. Currently I do not have a place to live, I stay with friends here and there (going through a lot in my life please don’t judge) and there are also lot’s of other things that are necessary that I do not have….how can I get this across to my case manager guy or whatever he is called….by the way….he is a TOTAL ASS HOLE (excuse my language….) and I would like to use A LOT more colorful descriptive words than that. HELP ME!!!
    thank you
    -AylaH

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ayla,

      Given you first applied when you were eighteen, I wonder whether your claim is for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and not Social Security Disability (SSD).

      If you have been approved for SSD, then your back pay will go back to the later of twelve months before your application or the sixth full calendar month of disability. If you have been approved for SSI, your back pay will begin the first of the month after the month in which you applied.

      It is difficult to get the payment of a claim expedited because so many disabled people are in very bad financial situations. As a result claims are usually processed at each step on a first in, first processed basis. That said, once a SSD back pays is released it is all released in a single lump sum. SSI back pay of $2,163 or more is paid in three installments six months apart. You can ask to have an exception made and have more released in the first installment based on the fact that you are homeless and need to pay first and last month’s rent and deposits on the rental and utilities to shelter yourself. It is at Social Security’s discretion to release an extra amount, but you can make the request and hope for the best. (Tip: Try to stay calm and polite, no matter what, when trying to arrange this.)

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  200. Lucy says:

    Hi,

    I just learned from my daughter that my ex-husband started receiving social security disability benefits in October of 2013. Both my daughters are in their 20′s now.

    My ex-husband is in arrears with his child support in the amount of $77,848.21 (court ordered). Do I need to do anything on my end to start receiving back child support? How long does it take if I am entitled to receive back support?

    I also received a letter from DSS that I was overpaid in the amount of $2,200.00 I have only received a total of $3,100.00 in twenty years from tax interception checks. They could not tell me how I owe money when he is soooo far behind in child support. Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank You

    Lucy

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lucy,

      Social Security benefits are garnished to pay back child support according to the court order in place. Your first step is to talk to DSS to get clarification (and correction if needed) of their calculations that you are overpaid child support. If the worker can’t explain it and hsow how it was calculated, ask to speak to a supervisor or the specialist who did the calculations.

      You can also make an appointment with the Social Security Administration to request garnishment. You will need your ex-husband’s Social Security number and the support order.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  201. Brittany t says:

    Ok so this is quite long and confusing I’m just trying to understand what’s going on!

    I’ve been recently receiving Ssi benefits, (I’m 19 years old by the way)
    From 10/2013- and now continuing.
    I was told I can recieve survivors benefits also from my deceased father that died in 03′ so I filed for that in nov 2013′ I was speaking with someone at Ssi office while she told me I was entitled to backpay because I was disabled since 03′ she told me the amount I was entitled to if I filed $11,345.00 ok I filed for it. I’m just now getting a letter stating award for survivors benefits which I was approved but it said I will recieve 624.00 the third of every month from may 2013 etc and my first payment will be on feb 12 2014′. I called and spoke with Ssi they told me its just the letter stating of what starting to happen NOW I’m not sure if that is the back pay or not they said Ssi has to calculate and then they would send me a letter, I hope this is not the back pay amount because they was suppose to go back further but they say I have something PENDING so maybe that’s the back pay that’s pending but if so will they send me a letter for backpay?? Please I hope I didn’t confuse you thanks,

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Brittany,

      The letter you are describing sounds as if it is a letter telling you the amount and the date of your current monthly benefits, as the representative indicated. It would be usual procedure for the back pay to come later. Whether or not it goes back to 2003 is another matter. Given the retroactive amount mentioned ($11,345), I would say that back pay will go back to twelve months prior to the date of your application, November 2012.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  202. Janice Kostecka says:

    I received an award letter back in July saying I was approved disability and I was gonna get 12 months of back pay. I have been calling ss trying to figure out whats going on and it seems everyone has a different story about when I’ll get the back pay. I have an overpayment because I worked because I really didn’t have a choice, I had to pay my bills or be on the streets. When can I expect to get my back pay? I am owed 7 thousand and owe 1200 I set a payment arrangment

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Janice,

      In order for me to offer an appropriate opinion, please clarify: Have you been approved for Social Security Disability (SSD) based on your work credits or Supplemental Security Income (SSI) based on financial need?

      Thanks,

      Kay

      • janice kostecka says:

        hello again SSi disibility is what im getting i was getting ssi but then i got apporved for disibility i keep getting different answers when i call the office. my querstion now is if i was recieving benefits from my fatther that passed away but theyre saying since i was getting SSi survivors and ssi that i wont get SSdi backpay..ive been told for months now that im getting backpay but now all the sudden one lady says im not..im so confused please help and thanks soo much for taking the time to help all of us

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Janice,

          Because you are getting conflicting information depending on who you talk to, I would not depend on verbal statements. You should receive a formal notice of approval on your father’s record. The notice should include the date you became eligible and a listing of any benefits due. If, deed, your dependent Social Security benefits are subject to reduction because of SSI that you have received, the written notification should explain this. Until you get a formal written notice, you will not know for sure.

          SSI offset (reduction for Social Security benefits by the amount of SSI paid for the same months) will likely apply if your dependent benefits are being paid because you are a disabled adult child (an ummarried adult who became disabled in childhood). The reason for this is that the government does not pay duplicate disability benefits for the same month. If your SSI is more than your Social Security benefit, it could be true that there are no back benefits payable. If your Social Security is more than your SSI, then a reduced amount could be payable.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  203. Shane says:

    Hi I was just wondering if I didn’t receive any benefits as a child and my mother was on ssi would I be able to get a check? Im 23 and she started her disability when I was around 13 I think. Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shane,

      SSI (Supplemental Security Income) does not pay any benefits for the disabled person’s children. If your mother was receiving Social Security Disability (SSDI) and her benefit was less than her family maximum, you would have been eligible for benefits, payable to your mother because you were a minor. If she did get SSDI, she may have received a benefit for you and used it for your shelter, food, and clothing.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  204. Lateeshia Lowe says:

    Hi, I applied for ssi and they are sending me to get a medical exam. I was diagnosed with ptsd.. Anxiety dissosive idenity disorder manic depression and big polar. I moved to another state and then was told to have the exam. Live is an everyday battle but I’m staying as strong as possible for my baby who is 7 month old. I was rapped by my Step father for 4 years. I’m very nervous about the exam because I’m no good with new people or people in general. What should I expect at the exam and a better way to prepare myself. I don’t want to look crazy.. I just have so much on my plate and not sure how to handle all this.
    Thank you.
    Lateeshia

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lateeshia,

      First, be sure to attend the examination. Just answer the doctor’s questions honestly and don’t worry about how you look. The doctor is trying to assess the amount and kind of limitations that you have. He may also be assessing whether you have the judgment and capability to use your benefits to pay rent, buy food, and other basics before spending money on less essential items. Note that the appointment is for evaluation only and not treatment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  205. tonya lafarr says:

    My daughter was awarded SSI starting in July of 2012. She was also awarded a back payment of $5200, She got a settlement payment in June of 2013, and should of gotten another one around Christmas, but What the SSI doesn’t tell you is that you have to ask permission to use the back payment for medical or home remodeling. My daughter is severly speech delayed. She doesn’t need house repairs, wheel chairs. That’s what my local SSI office told me when I called several times to the office and to the national number. Because of the run around, I’m so confused on how this back payment process works, and my rights as a parent and payee. Any help is appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Tonya,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our website has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) law requires that back pay in excess of three times the Federal Benefit Payment amount, which in 2012 was $2,094, had to be paid in three installments six months apart. Exception can be made for purchase a home (or make a home handicap accessible) or to pay for medical care.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  206. Gene flow says:

    i recieved my my direct express card now will wen irecieve backpay

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Gene,

      Please see my response of yesterday to your earlier inquiry.

      Your benefits may be loaded to your card before you receive a letter, so you may want to check the balance on the card at an ATM every few days.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  207. WILLIAM D.LEGION says:

    My name is Will and I went to court on my hearing on 11/18/2013 and I have not heard anything as of 12/31/2013. I contacted my lawyer and now they’re telling me to wait another 60 days. I am just at my end of all this mayhem.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear William,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our website has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      I know it is hard to wait. Hearing decisions typically take sixty days or more. Once you get the decision, if it is an approval, it can be another sixty days before you receive payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  208. Shannon says:

    My son was approved in October 2013 for ssi based on being disabled. We had our phone meeting about his resources and income in October also. We still have not heard anything about how much he will be elligible to draw and when it will start. He has a Special needs trust that a check from Farm bureau make a deposit into every month from the insurance company of the gentleman that ran over him. It is direct deposited into the trust. It is also an irrevocable special needs trust. I am the conservator and trustee of this trust. When we signed him up for SSI at the SSI office they looked at the trust that day and said that it did not count as a resource. Now when I call to check on the status of his drawing they tell me that they had to send the trust to the regional office for review and it is still there. Any idea how long this will take and is there anything I can do to speed the process up? Should I call the regional office and how can I get the number?

    Thanks
    Shannon

  209. Jamie M says:

    My mom won her case for ssd in February 2012 and began receiving payments in October 2012, she was aproved as being disabled back in august 2010 and is supposed to be getting around $20,000 in back pay. She has called many times and has asked them what the hold up is and if they needed anything from her but they always say no and that it is sitting on someone’s desk, and they can’t give her a projected date as to when to expect it. What can she do to finally get her back pay?

    • Jamie M says:

      Also her lawyer was already paid by ssd, how can the lawyer be paid from her back pay and she still not receive it herself?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jamie,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our website has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Over a year is too long to wait for back pay. I recommend that you visit the Social Security office if possible and ask to speak to a supervisor. When talking with the supervisor, ask him or her to look at your claim file while you are there to see what can be done to complete payment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  210. Al says:

    Hello,
    I had my Social Security Disability hearing on Nov 26, 2013 and was given a fully favorable bench decision by the ALJ. I called the 1-800 and was told Judge signed the letter on Dec 19 and it went to payment processing on Dec 20th.. I assume I should be getting my back pay any day now.. Am I correct in assuming that.. I have not worked since March 2012 and filed for Disability July 2012.. How many months back pay am I looking at? When I called the 1-800 number they were also able to give me my monthly amount.. The SSA website seems to be slow in updating info. Thanks for a quick response

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Al,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Back pay after a favorable hearing decision can take as long as two months. Your back pay will begin to accrue on September 1, 2012 and will continue through the month before the month in which it is paid or through the month before the first month for which you get a monthly payment, if the monthly payments start first.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  211. Jody says:

    Whats waiting on moderation mean?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jody,

      “Waiting on moderation” means that your comment has been received and is waiting for me to review it and respond. Please see my response of earlier today. (As noted, a software problem has prevented responding before now.)

      Kay

  212. Robert says:

    I had my ssdi hearing in Tampa via a teleconference with a judge in Virginia on September 3. As of today, December 22, there has been no decision. I call Social Security on almost a daily basis, but there answer is always the same. Be patient they say. It has been nearly four months now. Is this common, or should I be concerned that something is wrong? Also, if I am approved, will I get the backpay for my son who is three and my daughter who is now 19? They both lived with me when I originally applied online, but now I am divorced and they do not live with me anymore.
    Thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Robert,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      I hope that by now you have received a decision on your hearing; it has been pending longer than the recommended two-month time frame. The fact that you had a teleconference with a judge in Virginia indicates that the Florida hearing office was overtaxed. It may be that the Virginia office also became overtaxed taking in hearings from other locations. I suggest calling the hearing office. If you are told that the hearing is pending a decision, you might ask where it is in line to be handled. If they say that the appeal is in the letter writing department, a decision has been made and you should have a letter within a month.

      With regard to your children, the adult who has custody of your minor son will receive his benefits. The nineteen-year old will be paid his benefits directly.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

    • Robert says:

      I finally did get my letter yesterday and the decision was fully favorable. However, I have to get recertified every 18 months. I cannot predict how I will be at that time, but if its anything like the last three years, there will be no way I can work. How hard is it to recertify? Also since my benefits start date is June/2011, I assume I am now eligible for Medicare. Can I take my letter somewhere to get enrolled now so I can start seeing physicians again?

      Thanks

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Robert,

        At the time of your reevlatuation, you will be asked to provide updated medical information, including a list of medical providers and medications. (It is important that your remain under a physician’s care.) Your claim will be reviewed to see whether you have recovered medically. You will continue to receive benefits while the review is being conducted. If your condition has not improved or has not improved enough to be able to do substanial gainful activity, your benefits will continue. If it is found that you are no longer disabled, you will have the right to appeal.

        If your approval is for Social Security Disability (SSDI) and not Supplemental Security Income (SSI), you will be enrolled in Medicare Parts A and B automatically. Your Social Security approval letter that lists your benefit amounts should show a reduction for the Part B Medicare premium and you will be given the opportunity to purchase prescription coverage (Part D Medicare). If Medicare information is not included in the award letter that delails financial amounts, contact your local Social Security office. Once you have Medicare, I suggest that you also investigate Medicare supplemental insurance options in your state.

        Sincerely,

        Kay

  213. Jody Inman says:

    My ? Is I settled a workmans comp case in 2012 and now got approved for disability on dec 2013 they say my back pay as of rigjt now is 35000 but seeing what thete having to do about my workmans comp settlement which was 17000 do you think or know how much or if any back pay I will receive?? I get frist check for monthly benefits on jan 8th when should I get my back pay??

    • Jody Inman says:

      Hello can you answer my question?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jody,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      There is a limit on the total amount of workers compensation (WC) and Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits you can receive. The limit is 80% of your average earnings as defined by Social Security law. Settlements are usually prorated out over a period of time. I cannot say how much. However, unless your WC settlement is more than 80% of your average earnings, it is reasonable to expect that you will receive some Social Security back pay. Calculation of workers compensation offset often takes two months or more.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  214. Janet says:

    I was approved for both SSI and SSD. My question is, will I be able to purchase a home and car with the money that are back-paid to me? My children have been helping me pay rent for the longest, and will continue to do so in the event I decide to buy a home. However, they will not have to help out with as much money with having a home, verses helping me presently with the rent of my current apartment.

    Also, I am still awaiting both payments; SSD website indicated my first SSD monthly payment will begin Jan. 8th. The trouble I have figuring out is, will I get paid ‘both’ back payments from SSI ‘and’ SSD from Dec. 2011, according to what they are to be? Or will one amount be smaller retroactively than the other? I understand from previous replies you have given here that SSI stops once SSD is found to be higher. My question is if this happens does Medicaid stop as well? Thanks for your help.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Janet,

      Apologies for the delay in responding. Our website has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Your back pay for Social Security (SSD) will begin with the later of your sixth full calendar month of disability and twelve months before the date you applied. SSI will be retroactive to the month after you applied. The retroactive benefits will be coordinated with the second benefit paid being reduced by the amount of the other benefits back pay. Usually SSI is paid first, but sometimes it is SSD.

      SSD backpay is paid in a single payment. SSI back pay, if over three times the monthly Federal Benefit Rate, will be paid in three installments six months apart. An exception can be made for the purpose of purchasing a home. You, of course, would need to contact your Social Security office and request release of full back pay due to your plan to a house.

      Medicaid will stop when SSI stops unless you qualify under your state’s rules, rather than due to SSI entitlement. You will become eligible for Mediare after you receive twenty-four months of benefits including retroactive months.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  215. Sean says:

    Hi. I came across this website while researching information pertaining to my disability. I saw something about children receiving payments if their parents are on SSD. When I was 14 my mother began receiving benefits up till I was about 20. I was wondering if I should have been receiving benefits also during that time period or are children not automatically qualified. My mom was a single mom and I am an only child. Thank You

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sean,

      If your mother was receiving Social Security Disability benefits on her own earnings record and her benefit was high enough, child’s benefits could have been payable. They would have been paid to your mother for her to use for your housing, food, clothing, school supplies, medical care, etc.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  216. joshmarini says:

    please my lawyer was supposed to get 27 percent and i get 73 percent of the funds but i ended up getting what the lawyer is supposed to get…and i called and they said it was correct please help me

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Josh,

      Apologies for the delay in responding. Our website has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      My first thought is that perhaps your share (75% or all but $6,000 if your retroactive pay exceeded $24,000) has been reduced to repay assistance that you got from a state disability program or by a garnishment for back child support. Such reductions would be taken out of your benefits after the attorney was paid. If that is not the case, then I recommend that you go into your Social Security office and speak with the claims representative who processed your claim to get a full itemized explanation.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  217. Shannon says:

    My son was approved for ssi based on his disability in October 2013. We had a phone interview to go over his assetts and income on October 18, 2013. He has money that is paid into an irrevocable special needs trust from his accident. We still have not heard how much he will be eligible to draw. I am being told that his Special Needs Trust is being reviewed at the regional office. Any idean how long this will take and what I should do to speed the process up. The trust was reviewed the day we applied for ssi back in February 2013 at our local office and they said this it would not count as income. I was told that it still has to go to the regional office for appoval once client is approved ssi.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Shannon,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      The information you have received is probably true. Trusts are complicated documents and take many forms. Although the local office’s initial assessment of the trust allowed your son’s claim to be evaluated medically, once a medical approval was received, the trust had to be reviewed by a legal professional to be sure the claims representative’s assessment was correct. It is hard to say how long this will take and I doubt there is anyting that you can do to speed up the review. You can, however, as the office to follow up to the regional office if you have not heard anything by the end of January and monthly thereafter.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  218. james greer says:

    Hi,
    I filed for ssi and ssdi in Feb.2011 was denied,appealed I’d was denied again appealed it once more and received a hearing date of Nov 14 2013. 1 week prior to the hearing date my lawyer contacted me and said the alj had requested that I amend the onset date from Feb 2011 to April 2011 so we did. Went to the hearing and it went well.I received a fully favorable decision dated Dec 4 2013 on Dec 10 2013. I will receive back pay as well. I have been to my SSA account online and it states I will receive a $721 payment on Dec 31 2013. My question is about back pay if I receive back pay from both ssi and ssdi how do they pay the payments? I know that depending on the amount ssi pays out in 3 installments. Does ssdi pay the lump sum before during or after the ssi payout ?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear James,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Usually the SSI is paid first and the Social Security (SSDI)is reduced by the amount of SSI paid for the same months. However, it can occur in reverse order. If the SSI is paid first and in installments, the SSDI could be paid before or after the first installment.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  219. Lee says:

    I have applied for disability benefits, was denied SSI due to income received on short term disability. The case worker(initial interview) based date of disability to be from physical ailment and has handed off my claim to the medical review dept.
    My question is, the short term i receive is only for chronic knee pain in which we do not know at this point, where the knee recovery is going, talk replacement surgery.. But, I have applied for disability due to chronic depression and anxiety/panic attacks in which the knee problem has inflated. I have lost jobs, work days and good reviews(job) due to absences caused by anxiety and panic attacks. Will this be considered in the determination? I DID include the emotional and metal issues in the application, as it was my main reason for applying. Thank you

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lee,

      Apologies for the delayed response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      All your medical and psychiatric conditions will be considered in making a decision on your claim. If you have not already included a statement about missed work and lost jobs due to your mental health, I recommend writing up something and getting it to the Disability Determination Services right away. Also, if you have employers who have observed your physical and/or mental health symptoms, statements from them could be helpful.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  220. Stacy says:

    Hi Kay!

    I just talked to the SSA office and told me my back pay had been released and started processing 2 days ago. Do you know how long after they start processing a back payment it will take to get to me?
    Thanks!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stacy,

      Dear Terry, 12/11

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      You should have received the payment by now as it should not take more than a week after payment is released to reach you.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  221. Camille Baugh says:

    I wil be 18 in 4 months and I receive ssd from my father who has passed .My mother says she can keep the money because ill still be in high school until im 20 .Could you please clear up whether the money will be in my name or hers ?If so could I take her to court to have the money turned over to me ?She is a active drug user .

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Camille,

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Your Social Security dependents benefits can continue until age nineteen if you are still in high school. I suggest going to the Social Security Administration and applying to have the benefits paid in your name. Explain that your mother is an addict. If you do receive the money, keep in mind that you will still need food, electricity, heat, etc. and use your benefits to buy these things directly for yourself and your household.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  222. lynnbrady says:

    a year ago i called ss. and told them that when they deducted the amout of back pay that they took about 300 dollars over what they claim owed amount.back to them.cant minus more than what the other benift had given out…the ss place told me they would look into it and not to call it would take longer…so i didnt call..back in 2004 i got so many letters…it at first confused me on my amounts(i have every piece of paper)but no one can minus ..IMPOSSABLE!!!..well its been god i think 2-3 yrs ago and no call..what should i do. now? has it been too long now?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lynn,

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      If you appealed formally and have not gotten a reply or have other proof of asking for a correction of the withholding and have not gottn a reply, then you should follow up even though it has been a long time. Take a copy of your appeal request or other documentation of requesting a correction to your local office and ask them to follow up with the program service center. Also take correspondence and calculations that show that they offset too much.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  223. Autumn Smith says:

    My mom has been fighting for her SSI for 7 years, and finally won. She was supposed to get at least 40, 000 back. My mother has been waiting for that money for years. She was going to use that money to finally buy my brothers and I a house of our own, and her a car that would brake down on her any more. She has been so excitied, always saying, when I get my back pay, I can buy us a house, or a car! Maybe even get you new close for school! Or, maybe I’ll have my back pay by Christmas so you guys will finally have a good Christmas. But the lady called today to inform my mom that she would only get 5,000 back. 25% goes to her attorney. The reason? Because my ex step dad made to much money when they were married. I understand that part. Yes, they were legally married, but were separated for most of the marriage. And we never saw any money, because he gambled it away. So, I’m trying to find a way to make this situation better. My mom is just so devistated right now. Is there anything we can do to fight this desition?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Autumn,

      If Social Security counted your former stepfather’s income in months that your mother and stepfather were living in separate households, your mother needs to appeal the calculation of her benefits. She will need to present proof of separate households. She can ask Social Security what proof they want and then get it. (Such proof could be verification from your stepfather’s landlord that he was living elsewhere. Other possibilities are utility bills in his and her names at different addresses or statements from utility companies.) She needs to appeal within 60 days of the date of the letter that told her how her claim was being calculated. I would also suggest that she check all the other facts used to calculate her claim so that she can review for accuracy and appeal those facts if they are in error.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  224. MaryAnn says:

    Dear Kay,

    Thank you so much for your reply. I just want to check if you happen to know if it’s possible for me to get both SSDI & SSI ? Since I haven’t worked for about 2 years now. Is there a certain income or amount of SSDI in order for me to receive an additional SSI ? Thank you again & many blessings to you !

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear MaryAnn,

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem that is now resolved.

      If your countable assets and income, including Social Security Disability (SSD), are below the Supplmental Security Income (SSI) limits, you can receive both SSD and SSI on an ongoing basis. If your Social Security, alone or with other income, results in too much income for SSI, then you will receive only SSD on an ongoing basis.

      Looking at retroactive months, you might receive SSI for SSD’s unpaid, five-month waiting period, if some of the unpaid months fall after your SSI application date. If you have the potential for dual entitlement in months before your approval, the two benefits–SSD and SSI–will be coordinated with one offsetting the other so that you do not receive duplicate benefits for past months.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  225. terry says:

    HI MY SON APPLIED FOR SSI IN APRIL 2013. HE WAS FOUND TO BE DISABLED IN SEPTEMBER 2012. THEY ONLY BACKDATED UNTIL MAY 2013.SHOULD THEY HAVE BACK DATED THEY DAY HE WAS DETERMINED DISABLED SEPTEMBER 2012?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Terry,

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits have no retroactivity prior to the date of application and SSI is not paid for partial months, so your son’s eligibility begins in May 2013, based on his April 2013 application.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  226. Detra says:

    I had a hearing in November and right now I am waiting on a decision. I was told it would take between 60 day to hear from them by January. There onset date is from January 2008- 2013. I am single and have no children. What would my monthly benefits be if I am approved and how long will it take for them to make a decision. I deal with depression, Carpal Tunnels, Fibromyalgia, back problem.ect. Can you help me

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Detra,

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem, which is now resolved.

      The amount of your Social Security Disability (SSD) depends on your individual work earnings. Given that you have a pending claim, the local office in which you applied (not the hearing office) should be able to give you an estimate. You could also request a “Social Security Statement” at http://www.socialsecurity.gov or by calling Social Security at 1-800-772-1213.

      If you applied for Supplemental Security Income, the maximum benefit has increased since 2008. In 2014, the amount for an individual is $721. The actual amount you receive will depend on your other countable income including in-kind support in the form of shelter or food.

      The general guideline is for you to have a decision within sixty days after your hearing; however, it often takes longer. If you have not received a notice within ninety days and you do not have an attorney, I recommend calling the hearing office to get a status report–just to be sure a decision letter has not gone astray in the mail.

      Sincerely,

      Kay Derochie

  227. Newmyr says:

    Dear Kay, My friend is looking at applying for SSD and wants a representative to help her. She has been getting workers comp payments monthly that are more than what she would will get in monthly SSD benefits so she won’t have any back benefits when all is said and done. How does a representative get paid if there are no back benefits to pay them from? Do they just do all that work and get nothing in the end? Could this be the reason she is having a hard time finding someone to represent her?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Newmyr:

      Apologies for the late response. Our site has had a software problem that is now resolved.

      While it is possible that your friend might receive a small amount of retroactive Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits (if her workers comp is less than 80% of her average earnings, as defined by Social Security law), the fact that any retroactive SSD would be small could well be a contributing factor in her being unable to obtain an attorney. She might try contacting social service agencies in her area (both government and non-profit) to see if any offer Social Security application assistance.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  228. Matthew says:

    I’m waiting for my SSDI benefits to hit the bank any day now. However, I have been receiving benefits (60% of my salary when I became disabled) from a long term disability insurance policy I paid for through my previous employer. The insurance company keeps asking if my SSDI claim has been paid and how much backpay I’ve received. They tell me that any “offset” I receive I will have to give to them. I do not agree that I should turn over my social security “overpayment” that I have been paying into since age 13 to an insurance policy I bought to protect me if I became disabled. The insurance company says there is a cap on how much income I can make, 60% of my previous salary when I became disabled and anything over that I need to pay to the insurance company. Has anyone ever heard of this greedy policy of taking SS from someone?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Matthew,

      Almost all private and employer disability policies integrate the policy benefits with Social Security. That means that the long term disability (LTD) benefits are reduced by the amount of Social Security you are paid for the corresponding month. This is a provision of the policy you bought and the premium you paid for the policy was based on reduction for Social Security. (A policy that did not reduce, if you could find one, would have had much higher premiums.) You will have an LTD overpayment when you receive your Social Security Disability (SSD) back pay because it is for months that you already received full, unreduced LTD. If you would like to review the policy provision that governs this, you can ask your insurance claims representative to guide you to the page on which it appears in the policy.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  229. Rosa Kelly says:

    Just one question my husband is permanently disabled and wanting to get his permanent fishing license .The wildlife needs a certification letter saying my husband is permantley disabled from s.s.d I just want to know how do I put this question to them so I can get what I exactly need or how to go about getting the correct information Rosa KELLY

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Rosa,

      Usually agencies deem being on Social Security disability to be “permanent disabilitiy.” If all they need is verification that your husband receives Social Security, he can either call 1-800-772=1213 and follow the automated prompts to request a benefit verification letter or he could use the cost-of-living-adjustment letter that he will be receiving some time this month. The wildlife office can look at his driver’s license, which shows his date of birth as being below retirement age, and the benefit verification letter to figure out that the benefit is for disability.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  230. MaryAnn says:

    Very sorry ! for the duplicate…I thought it didn’t post & I also edited it a bit.. Thank you !

  231. misty says:

    hi kay im really confused I just received a letter from ssd saying they are withholding 11,000. of my backpay because I was eligible for ssi, I filed for ssd and ssi December of 2011 I was denied for both on may of 2012 I appealed went in front of the judge October 2013 he awarded me full favorable back to the date of December 2011, had a phone call from ssd worker gave her all my bank info in november2013 she then said I was eligible for both ssd and ssi gave me an amount and said I was getting my backpay of 14,000 for ssi and that my backpay for ssd was only going to be $734.00 ? should I get a lawyer? I never used one on my case. im afraid to appeal I don’t want to lose all my benefits?i just don’t understand I get both payments now why wouldn’t I have gotten both then? and while I was waiting to get ssd and ssi I was receiveing money from the state for my daughter and myself which I had to payback out of the ssi back pay! im thankful for the money now but the back pay would help me get out of debt which I have created since my accident!! thanks for your time again.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Misty,

      Your Social Security Disability (SSD) back pay was reduced for the SSI you were paid in the same period because you cannot receive duplicate disability benefits for the same months, therefore, one of your benefits had to be reduced for back months. You will receive ongoing payments from both programs if your Social Security is below the SSI income level. If so, the ongoing SSI will be reduced for the Social Security you will receive for the same month. Part of your SSI has gone to pay your debt to the state, which you incurred when you signed the agreement with the state to repay them if you got SSI.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  232. Cynthia says:

    My disability was approved on November 27th and I have not received my benefits in the mail yet. How long does it normally take

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cynthia,

      If your claim was approved on initial application or reconsideration appeal, the wait time for payments varies from a couple of weeks to a couple months or more.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  233. MaryAnn says:

    Dear Kay,
    I’ve been receiving SSDI since year 2001 for blindness. I have a 5 mos. old son & also receiving as my beneficiary. I had a retinal detachment & lost my vision on my right eye & my left good eye has 20/200 vision with corrective lenses. SS even sent me to a specialist to check my vision. I started working 1-2 days a week for supplemental, my benefits were not enough to cover the bills..I did let SS know about the changes and they said it’s fine, as long as I don’t go over the threshold ( which we based on blind threshold) I checked & verified many times with SS my income & the threshold. So, all along I thought every thing is fine.. Then in Sept. 2011 my benefits were suddenly stopped & didn’t get the SS letter until after 2 weeks saying they ceasing my benefits, because of “overpayment”! Or substantial gainful activity…so, I was so shocked ! This my main income…& it’s already hard enough..
    I went to the local office and checked what happened..told them i don’t agree with this decision, because I was led to believed everything I was doing was ok & my earnings were in the blind threshold. I talked to a few of them in the office & were told to come back many times…& they gave my the run around..I was explained that back in 2005 or something, one of the staff that does the review reapproved my claim when he saw the word “blindness”‘ right away, which should not had happened… And it’s not their definition of “stat blind”!,, which is completely different.. I said that’s not even on their brochure or Infos. Online..I didn’t even get any notice or letter stating the difference in blindness & what kind of blindness I was approved for…I was in tears…( I didn’t even have enough notice or explanation and suddenly stopped my benefits…) because I won’t be able to pay my rent & bills & will get evicted if I don’t get any income at all…So, they stopped my benefits starting Sept.-Nov. 2011. In Dec. 2011 I came back to the office…desperate! Cause I was already 2 months late on my rent & already have a letter of eviction & my medical records..brought to the office to show them that I was desperate & in dire need.. I was told to reapply & file for a reconsideration & also file an appeal for a hearing… If reconsideration gets denied.. So, they approved my application right away, or reinstated, supposed to include my son. I was told to temporarily only earn base on the regular blind threshold, because I still need to wait for the reconsideration decision. I asked what’s going to happen to the benefits that was held or stopped from Sept-Nov. I was told” I’ ll get them back”, if my reconsideration or hearing were approved or have favorable decision… I wrote a letter to SS to continue my benefits & not to collect overpayments until the decision is made. I started getting benefits in Dec., but my son did not receive until May 2012, I was told because he’s application is separate from mine & would take time to process…I was also told that he should be receiving benefits if I am receiving benefits. The collection from the overpayment office held some of my son’s benefits & explained to them that I made a request for them to stop & not do that because I don’t agree with the due ion of overpayment & it’s not fault that they messed up the decision making.. They held all 5 mos. of benefits that we should have received…Feb.2012 got a letter for reconsideration denial & I did file for an appeal for a hearing. I didn’t get the schedule for the hearing until Feb. 2013 & it will be the end of the mos. so I requested to reschedule due to not enough time to get someone to help me or represent my case. Anyway, it was rescheduled to June 5,2013 & had the hearing result was “fully favorable” I qualify under their definition of “stat blind”! Got the fully favorable letter from the judge Sept. 2013 & still waiting for a calculation decision. I called a few times, all they said is to wait for the decision letter. It’s already Dec. & still have not heard from them.

    My question is will they pay me back those months (Sept.-Nov. 2011) when they stopped or held my payments & my son’s benefits that were also held or collected by the SS overpayment office ? My landlord is still waiting to be paid those month that I didn’t receive benefits & so as other money I borrowed to pay bills. I am really desperate, pls help ! Thank you for your time…

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear MaryAnn,

      What an unfortuante set of circumstances.

      Yes, you will get reimbursed for all the unpaid and withheld benefits because the judge upheld that you meet the definition for blindness so that the substantial gainful activity level is higher than for people entitled as disabled, but not blind. It is likely that the recalculations are being done in the program service center, which can take a long time.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  234. Cristine says:

    I got only some of my back pay that was for 4 months and I don’t know why. It was only 4 months times the minimum of SSI. Shouldn’t I have gotten more? I know my lawyer should get 25% but I still got only under $1000.

    Thanks,
    C.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Christine,

      You should get a letter that lists the total amount due you and how our benefit was calculated. SSI can pay from $1.00 to $710 per month depending on other income ou have including inkind income, which is free shelter or food. Perhaps you were eligible for less than the maximum benefits. Another explanation is that your back pay may be paid in three installments. If you are eligible for more than $2,000 in back SSI, payments are paid in three installments six months apart. If you have not gotten an explanatory letter, you could call 1-800-772-1213 and ask for an explanation.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  235. Libby says:

    Hello Kay,

    I have scrolled through every letter to you in search of my question; but to no avail.

    My husband received SSD. He has 2 sons who receive benefits; one of whom has turned 18. His benefit, in turn, went to the 14 yr. old. Our question is this: When the 14 yr. old turns 18 and stops receiving his benefit what happens to that money? Does my husband begin receiving this additional amount?

    Thanks for your time.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Libby,

      I haven’t seen your question before so apparently it didn’t post. So sorry for the inconvenience. Your husband’s benefit will not increase. Dependent benefits are an extra amount paid for the children and are above the disabled worker’s primary insurance amount.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  236. Terry says:

    Hey Kay,
    I have read through all of the post on this page. It took me a while, but I wanted to make sure I didn’t ask a question that had already been answered.
    Have you had or heard of any dealings with a critical case? The reason I ask is because I had my ALJ hearing on Dec 2, 2013. I don’t remember if it was during the hearing or after she had stopped the recording, but my ALJ said that she was finding a fully favorable decision on my case. I have affirmed with the ODAR office that my case was and is still marked as a “critical”case for MCWW. Do these cases usually move faster? If so, what should I expect?
    I am asking you because now that I have “won” my case, my law office does not return phone calls or answer any questions.
    This is what I know:
    I know I have turned down/been denied SSI benefits because of assets and other income so that shouldn’t delay the process.
    I know that for “normal cases” it could take up to 90 days to receive payment.
    I know that for those cases that are flagged as mine, it should be expedited through all stages according to HALLEX I-3-1-51 and DI 11005.601.

    I was just looking for an estimate on time if you had one.

    Any information will be greatly appreciated.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Terry,

      Thank you for your question. I wish I had a reliable answer for you, but I do not. The first step after the hearing is that the judge has to formally render the decision and then it has to be typed up into a letter that goes to you and your attorney. At that time, the hearings office notifies the Social Security office, which does a final review to see if all documentation is in for non-disability factors, such as proof of your age. After you get the letter, I suggest contacting the local office to ask the representative to be sure that your Social Security computer record is correctly coded with your SSI denial. Occasionally, a Social Security claim is held up because the coding is missed.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Terry says:

        Kay,
        Thank you for your reply. I will keep a time line and do as suggested. I will let you know what happens and when.

        Sincerely,
        Terry

        • Kay Derochie says:

          You are welcome, Terry. I’ll look forward to hearing from you.

          Kay

          • Terry says:

            Hello again Kay. I just thought I would give you an update. I received my favorable decision from the ODAR office on January 3rd, 2013. I spoke to the local office prior to receiving the letter and they said that they were authorizing the release of payment. Not sure what that means. As far as the HALLEX goes, those are just guidelines for SS to use and are not necessarily enforceable. How ever I did have a person with the Critical Congressional Unit make some phone calls for me. I am now trying to get in touch with the local office to see if I need to come in for anything. I don’t think I should being that I had already been denied SSI during the initial application. So all in all it has taken a month from hearing date to Notice of Decision. Now Just waiting on award Letter.

          • Kay Derochie says:

            That’s all good news, Terry!

  237. Cherise Cleghorn says:

    Hi I recently had my ssi hearing, and the vocational expert said there was 0% chance of me being able to work due to my mental status. I am pretty sure that means I have a good chance of winning.
    My lawyer informed me if I am approved I would receive back pay from 2004; which is life changing! I’m just worried that since I owe back child support from 13yrs ago that my benefits will be garnished to pay that.
    I did some research and found things that said , if it’s ssi not ssdi ( which ssi is what i would get if i am approved) they cannot touch my benefits; is that true? And if so, is it safe for me to open a bank account?
    Confused in C.A

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Cherise,

      Yes, to my knowledge, SSI (Supplemental Security Income) payments cannot be garnished. You, of course, could voluntarily pay some of your child support debt.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  238. Joe says:

    Do I get my monthly benifit befor my back pay or they have to wait for figger out everything then monthly pay is out?

  239. Sara says:

    Hi I finally had a favorable decision in April 2012 after 5 years. My back pay is a large amount. I have received one lump payment. There is still more back pay owed. I have had no letter sent out to me with explanations of benefits. One day I looked in my account and there was a 77,000 deposit. My main question is social security is telling me since my kids are 19 and 20 now they will be getting checks written out to them. Theses are 20,000 and 22,000 checks. I don’t want to sound greedy but I went through my grandmas inheritance, I had to sell my house and cash in all my savings while I was waiting for social security to make this decision. As well as they are too immature and irresponsible to have this amount of money. Please help and let me know if there is anything I can do before the money is disbursed. Thank you in advance Sara

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sara,

      I doubt that there is anything you can do to keep the money being paid to your children directly; however, just in case, you could go to your local office to find out whether the payments could be made in installments (which I doubt). Otherwise, perhaps you can have a family meeting and try to instill the idea that it is a great opportunity for them to get this money and how it could help get their adult lives off to a good start. Discuss investment options for them such as college or trade school tuition, downpayment on a house, etc. Beyond that, you are powerless (like all of us parents are).

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  240. Theresa says:

    Hi Kay,
    I applied for disability benefits on April 20,2013. I still have not heard on a decision and it has passed the 180 day mark. I called the 1-800 number and was told a high priority email was sent to a supervisor and my local claims office regarding them not meeting the alotted time frame. How do I get things settled, should I visit the office and speak with someone in person?
    Thanks,
    Theresa

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Theresa,

      When you called the 800 number, were you told that the claim was in the local office or in the Disability Determining Services (DDS)? If it was in the local office, then I would suggest following up if you haven’t heard anything from them within a week of your phone call. If it is in DDS and you have or can get the number, I suggest calling to ask if they need anything from you or your physicians.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  241. Virginia says:

    Dear Kay, I haven’t received your response to my questions.

    Thank you,
    Virginia

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Virigina,

      As I indicated, I did respond to you on December 2. There are quite a few comments and responses so you may have to scroll back through a few pages of posts to locate it.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  242. misty says:

    hi kay I was awarded full ssd back to the date of injury which was December 2011 also am eligible for ssi which they said goes back to January 2013, and they sent me a letter saying that starting june 2012 to October 2013 is when they will pay for ssd depending on how much I received from ssi? im confused will there be any back pay from ssd? or just ssi? and also I have a daughter living with me she should be eligible to draw ssd of me right? they are so confusing when you call its like no one wants to tell you anything? thanks agin for your time!

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Misty,

      Social Security Disability (SSD) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Retroactive payments are coordinated (offset against) each other so that a disabled person doesn’t receive duplicate disability benefits for the same period. Typically, SSI will be paid first and Social Security will be reduced by the amount of the SSI. SSI is paid first because in many states, SSI eligibility affords eligibility for Medicaid, which can pay unpaid medical bills for some past months for which you are SSI eligible.)

      You are right that your daughter may be eligible for Social Security dependent benefits. If you daughter is either under age eighteen or under age nineteen and in school or is an adult who has been disabled (as defined by Social Security) from childhood and your Social Security benefit is less than you family maximum, your daughter will receive benefits. Usually dependent benefits are paid after your benefits start.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  243. Jenny says:

    Hi. I applied for ssdi June I was approved and I receive my first check on Dec 23, 2013. My son has been disabled since1997. He currently receives SSI. Iapplied for him to draw benefits off my account. Will he get backpay from 1997 for ssdi

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenny,

      Your son’s Social Security benefits will be paid only for the months that you are eligible for benefits. Note that his SSI will be reduced or terminated when his Social Security starts. If for some reason this is overlooked by the Social Security Administration, to avoid an SSI overpayment, be sure to contact Social Security to report your son’s Social Security benefits if he receives unreduced SSI after getting Social Security.

  244. Ron says:

    Hi Kay,
    I wrote you awhile back about my claim and reconsideration. Well it ends up I found out there is a thing called EXR in which if I have same illness as prior I could file. Since 1994 nobody at SS ever informed me about EXR. While waiting for claim reconsideration I found out about EXR and I was angry. I called SS they said only thing they could do is make an appointment 2 months from call date. Now im really angry wrote an angry note to SS office asking why nobody informed me about EXR after I told SS management and SS doctors on numerous occasions it wasn’t a new illness it was existing and I was in my 5 year period to file exr. Somebody woke up because of letter sent a letter back apologizing for violating my rights in regards to EXR and said Im entitled to EXR and changed my appointment from 2 months to a week away. Oct 8th went in and the women was very apologetic filled out my EXR paperwork and told me I would get my provisional payment 1st one on Nov 1 and she would combine my reconsideration with my EXR and would be handled as an EXR. Damn is it possible to get approved so fast. On Nov 1st I got my 1st provisional payment and then a letter for a meeting with SS on Nov 22nd to discuss the waiver of overpayment I asked for. On nov 22 I went in and told them nobody ever told me about exr and the money for overpayment back in 2006 was money SS gave me after 9 months of work but I became ill again and off work and money they wanted for overpayment I actually didn’t work those months. Well the SS representative said I have to pay it back. He said he was 4th person handling my file. He said the good news is my EXR was approved on Nov 1st. Is this possible to get approved in 3 weeks since filing after waiting 18 months with new claim? Now I asked him about back payment he said there was none I begged to differ as I had been off 18 months and new claim was filed in Dec 2012 after telling SS it was same illness and actually I was off since march 2012 and I was only told by SS to file a new claim. He made me wait and came back and said I would be getting 12 months backpay from Oct 2012 to Oct 2013 when I filed exr. SS screwed up this entire thing. Then he said I could pay the entire 15000 out of my backpay that they say was an overpayment. Anyways I agreed I wasn’t going to argue with him so he typed agreement stating overpayment would come out of backpay and I signed. I asked about backpay for my children and monthly benefits and told him they were listed on EXR forms to get benefits he said once I get an approval letter to come in and ask for benefits and backpay for children. If I was asked about children and they were put on EXR form shouldn’t everything be automatic or do I have to contact SS again for them? Now he said my Back payment would come first then monthly but Im getting provisional benefits now. I haven’t yet gotten an award letter other than one in oct saying I would get provisional benefits and EXR was approved Nov 1st according to him and I haven’t gotten an award letter yet stating. Its funny I was told SS wasn’t looking to collect overpayment in Oct but in Nov I got letter stating all the sudden they wanted it. I am assuming its because my exr was approved and I assume no award letter was going to be sent until after my meeting on nov 22 and after an agreement was reached to pay overpayment back. Anyways is Expedited really expedited as Ive dealt with SS since 1994 and never seen anything this fast happen. Filed Oct 8th 2013 approved Nov 1st 2013. Do I in fact have to wait til I get award letter to get my childrens benefits or will that be automatic because info was taken on EXR forms? Since they really expedited exr claim will my backpay be expedited? Ill be honest I was shocked when I went in meeting on Nov 22 and he told me my exr was approved on Nov 1st only 3 weeks. I guess when you send a letter saying you feel discriminated against because you weren’t offered something everyone else was people jump. Im assuming after my meeting last Friday the 22nd my case manager would now already gotten information to the PCR who is actually the one who sends award letters the FO only send denial letters and Im assuming I should be getting an award letter soon. Is my assumption correct? I have to admit the lady who was given full responsibility of my claim after the letter I wrote even though I was supposed to meet with her on Nov 22 but she wasn’t available has handled this as if it was fed ex next day air.

    Thanks
    Ron

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ron,

      I am glad that you became aware of the Expedited Reinstatement provision that is part of Social Security’s return to work incentives. It is unfortunate that someone along the way didn’t notice the oversight of not recognizing that your claim should have been treated as a request for reopening, not a new claim.

      To answer your questions, yes, the expedited reinstatement process is expedited; and it is possible to have a decision within weeks, as you did. Getting that approval fully processed to payment so that you are switched from provisional payments to regular payments likely will not be as expedited. It may take a couple months and the usual procedure is to complete the payment calculations and begin payment for the worker before action is taken to pay dependent benefits. (Provisional payments apply to you, but not to your children.) So, the instruction the representative gave you to contact Social Security about the children as soon as your benefits start is correct.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  245. Joe says:

    Hi I am approve and now will kids get back pay , I gave there info when I first aply but I don’t know whts going happen now

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Joe,

      If your approval is for Social Security Disability and your primary payment amount is less than your family maximum payment amount, then the children will receive benefits for every month that you are receive benefits. Usually the children’s claim is processed after your payment is finalized. If you are not contacted about applying to be representative payee for your children and providing their birth certificates (assuming you didn’t provide them before) within a couple weeks of your benefits starting, I suggest contacting the office that is handling your claim and ask for an interview to get your children’s benefits started.

      Best regards,

      Kay
      Sincerely,

      Kay

  246. Nicholas says:

    Hello Kay,

    I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in March this year, and applied for SSI in April. I received a denial letter in the last week of October.

    I’m working on an appeal. I’m wondering, though, if and when I am able to get through an appeal successfully… Will I get back pay from when I was diagnosed in March, when I filed the claim in April, or just since the appeal documents were filed in November?

    Thanks.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nicholas,

      If your application is for Supplemental Security Income (SSI), not Social Security, your benefits would begin with the month of application, April 2013. As an aside, if you do not have an attorney representing you in your appeal, it would be a good idea to get one so that they can review and address the specific reasons for the denial. If you do not wish to retain an attorney, ask Social Security for a copy of the decision memo (not the denial letter, but the denial memo) so that you can see the full rationale for the denial and say how you disagree with it. You have a right to receive that document.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Nicholas says:

        Hi Kay,

        Thank you for the reply!

        I am going to be getting help from an attorney, who I am actually meeting up with for the first time tomorrow night. Knowing about the denial memo is good, though, I had no idea about that at all.

        Here’s hoping that all goes well with the legal help. Thank you, though, for letting me know that I would get the back pay from my claim in April! That’s very helpful to know.

        Much appreciated,
        Nicholas

  247. Dona Cubbage says:

    Hello, I receive SSI for my disabled son. My payment is judged each month by my income I receive from working. Any months that there are five pay periods I do not receive a payment. In Sept 2013 I went on short term disability at work due to a surgery. I will not return to full time work until December 16th. I got a letter from work showing my weekly disability payments from work and turned it in to my local SS office. Since I am receiving less than half of what my gross earnings were previously I was told that I would be owed some money. I was just wondering if you knew how long it would take before I would receive the adjustment.

    Thank you for your time.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dona,

      Income changes in one month count two months later. For example, if your income goes down (or goes up but not enough to cause ineligibility) in October, you would see the change in SSI amount in December. Lower income in November would affect the January payment amount. How soon the office processes the change depends upon how busy they are. Hopefully, they would process the computer changes within a week of receiving the information. You should receive a written Notice of Change that outlines the new payment amounts.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  248. Virginia says:

    I first applied for my disability in Sept. 2011. After that, I was denied 4 times in between now i’m 43. I had to do a whole new application in Sept. 2012 when I had to leave my job because I was unable to do my job anymore. I got a lawyer in January 2013 and I was denied again and he filed a request for a hearing in June 2013. I would like to know when is my hearing date and if i’m approved how far back will they go.

    • Virginia says:

      Hi Kay, I sent a reply on Nov. 25. Will you please respond back concerning my situation.

      Thank you

      • Kay Derochie says:

        Dear Virginia,

        I apologize for the delay. I was out of the office for a few days for the holiday.

        Please see my response posted on December 2.

        Sincerely,

        Kay

  249. al says:

    i am homeless but just got approved for ssdi. my estranged wife gets ssi, if i move back ( it would be temporary) at her address, would she lose her ssi?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Al,

      You do not say whether your Social Security Disability (SSDI) benefits have started. If you move in with your wife and have no income or assets, it will not affect her Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments. Once your Social Security starts, your income could affect her SSI if you are living together. Whether her SSI will stay the same, go down, or be terminated depends on the amount of income your and she have and whether either or you has minor children lviing in the household or you are paying child support for a minor child.

      There is something else for your wife to consider. As a recipient of SSI, she is required to apply for all other benefits for which she may be eligible. That includes wife’s benefits on your Social Security account. Usually, Social Security would contact her to apply for the wife’s benefits shortly after your payments start; but if she is not contacted, she needs to contact Social Security to apply on your number. Note that your SSDI benefit will not be affected by her eligibility.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  250. Marilyn Robinson says:

    hello, I have been on Prozac for the last 7 years for depression and I have knee problems, I have screws in my knee and I am trying to apply for ssi disability for both mental and physical, they lawyer I talked to told me I could receive up to $1500 a month for this and they would go back as far as 5 years and pay me for those 72 months, so according to the lawyer I could make up to $108,000 and give them 25%, they said it has something to do with Prozac and depression, is this true to your knowledge?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Marilyn,

      As far as I am aware, Social Security Disability can be paid only for a maximum of twelve months prior to the month of application. I am not aware of any special circumstances related to Social Security and Prozac and depression. Perhaps your attorney is suggesting some other legal claim–not with Social Security–that is related to Prozac.

      It is possible that your monthly benefit is $1,500. You can check on this by either going online at http://www.ssa.gov or calling Social Security’s call center at 1-800-772-1213 and requesting your earnings record, which will give you a benefit estimate. Social Security law says that your attorney can be paid the greater of 25% of your Social Security retroactive (back) pay or $6,000.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  251. Trevina says:

    Kay my son has been noted disabled since 2007. As a child his benefits were cut because of my income. He graduated in June 2013 and turned 19 in September 2013. I reapplied for his benefit in August 2013. I received a check for 402.45 with no info.SSA referred me to the bank whom stated I needed rep payee letter. ON REVIEW OF THE LETTER IT STATED HIS MONTHLY PAYMENT WOULD BE 402.45 starting December 2013 with 71 dollars being withheld for overpayment. Will he be given back pay from the time he turned 18 and why is his benefit not 710

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Trevina,

      Please see my reply to your letter of yesterday. I posted the reply a few minutes ago.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  252. Trevina says:

    Hello Kay,
    As a child my son was approved for ssi uinder the child benefit. Due to my income it has been over 10 years since he received income from ssi. He recently graduated w3ith a certificate of completion in June 2013 and turned 19 years old in Sept 2013. I reapplied for his benefit as an adult in August 2013. I received a check for 402.43 on November 18th with no additional information provided. I attempted to open an account for him and I was referred to ssa for rep payee letter which indicated his amount was reduced by 71.00 due to overpayment. My question is why he did not receive the full 710.00 and will he be eligible for back pay since his disability date is 4/11/2007 and what about the months we waited to be reapproved. I cant believe they would issue a check without explanation. Please Help Iam Confused.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Trevina,

      With regard to notifications, when payment is already due, it usually comes before the explanatory letter.

      Your son lost his entitlement to SSI as a disabled minor child because of the length of time he was ineligible due to deemed income from you, his parent. His current entitlement is based on his income only because he is now over age eighteen and begins with his August 2013 application. There is no retroactivity prior to his current application. His back pay, if not withheld for additional overpayment, will go back only to the August application.

      The calculation of his benefit is based on his income, including in-kind (non-cash) income that he may be receiving from you in the form of free shelter and/or food. If this is the case, I am guessing that the payment he received is for one month and that his benefit was reduced not only to collect the overpayment that existed from his prior entitlement, but also by one-third, which is the maximum reduction for the value of free shelter or other in-kind support. Now that he has income, if he starts paying his share of the shelter and food costs, his SSI could go up. You can contact Social Security to find out the amount that he would have to pay to receive the full $710. (The amount is based on his share of rent or mortgage and utilities and food, which in turn is based on total costs and the number of people in the household.)

      Best regards,

      Kay

  253. Stacy says:

    Hello. My question may have been asked and answered already but I will ask anyways.
    Ok I had my hearing August 28, 2013. The ALJ found my case fully favorable and found me disabled as of August 30, 2011. I had my first interview with my local SSA office last week and another today. The first was about my info and to tell me I am going to draw SSD and that I can receive Medicare starting in Feb 2014. Today was because I have children who can draw off of me. I am going to receive my first regular payment on Dec 18, 2013. I know how much I am going to get each month and how much each of my children will draw on me. I also know that my kids will get back paid the same amount of time as me.
    My question is how long will it take to get my back pay? Before my first monthly payment? Also, will it be split up like SSI does or will it all be at once?
    Thanks.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Stacey,

      Your Social Security Disability and your children’s dependents back pay will be paid in lump sums, not in installments. Most of the time now, back pay is paid after the initial monthly payment, but not always. Based on what I am observing it will take from a couple weeks to a couple months or more for the release of your retroactive benefits.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  254. Bautista says:

    Hello Kay.

    I have been getting ssi for the past 10 years. I just recently had an interview for ssd. I was approved on the spot and was told I would be receiving both ssi and ssd with a back pay from 2008 for ssd. The worker at the ssa office told me it would be here in a month along with my first check. Is this dependable being as though my back pay isn’t that much? Will my check get here in the expected time frame? Or will I be playing the guessing game too like some other people I’ve seen on here? Thanks in advance for your help and advise.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Bautista,

      Unfortunately, your guess is as good as mine about whether you will receive your payments in the estimated time. I am sure that the representative you spoke expects that your payment will arrive in the time frame he or she suggested, but it seems as if we are seeing more lengthly delays than usuual.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  255. wanda allen says:

    I have been approved for ssdi sept 2013, and I became diabled in aug 2012, I actaully been to a lot of specialist Heart disease, heart recipent, but my last hospital is all they looked at in aug 2013 so that is where they started will get my first check in feb 2014( with the 5 month wait period), did not go back to my records in aug 2012, but have appealed my eod date which i think is the 2012 date and not the 2013 date, have sent all my medical records and all that they ask for.. this is for backpay i feel i should be getting, aI also have one dependent child who turned 17 oct 31, and have a phone interview for her on Nov 26th basisally she has been approved, just need to get her bank accout info and comfirm her ss#, will she get backpay also, and how long does it normally take for her, she has been great going to school and not asking for anything knowing there is not much money..and if i can prove that they only went to the last doctor info and not the orginal that did my orginal surgery will i get backpay.and would i have to wait very long. for my check,

    Thanks
    wyallen

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Wanda,

      If you can establish that you became disabled August 2012, then your eligibility and your daughter’s eligibility for benefits will begin February 2013 (the first month after the unpaid five-calendar-month waiting period).

      You do not say whether you have an attorney for your appeal. If you don’t and your appeal is denied, be sure to retain an attorney when you request a hearing (second appeal). You do not have to pay any legal fees up front and you will pay attorney fees only if you are approved for benefits. Social Security law sets the amount your attorney can charge and the Social Security Administration pays the attorney directly from your retroactive award at the time they send your back pay to you. So, it’s all very easy and risk-free.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  256. monique says:

    sorry i ment I was approved ssdi 2013

  257. monique says:

    I received worker comp from February 2011 to 11-2011. I was approved for ssdi November 3012, they say they will back pay from 2011. will I have to payback worker comp even though i wasnt getting worker comp when I was approved.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Monique,

      Social Security will reduce your Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits for any months that Social Security benefits and workers compensation benefits overlap and together exceed 80% of your usual earnings, as defined by Social Security. This means that it is likely that, for those overlapping months, you will receive more between SSD and workers comp yhan you would have received from either of program alone. Also, Social Security does not pay the first five months of disability, so if you received workers comp for the first five months Social Security says you were disabled, your workers comp for those five months will not reduce your Social Security benefits.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  258. Francis says:

    In August I received a call from the local ss office stating I had been approved for SSDI (did not apply for SSI). I received my first monthly payment in September and received a payment in October. However, I have not received back pay. Three weeks ago I inquired at the processing center and received a return call from a Technical Expert. She said due to the amount involved, it requires more approvals but that I should have it within a week. Nothing came. I inquired again and she called me back last Tuesday and said they finalized the amount, over 100,000, and that I should have it this week. So far, nothing. My kids received their dependants lump sum last Friday. Who are these Technical Experts, and do they typically get involved?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Francis,

      The technical experts are employees of the Social Security Administration. In your case, their role is to be sure that the calculation of the unusually large back payment is correct. Payments of a certain amount get flagged for this double check.

      You do not say whether your children received their payment in check form or by direct deposit. If you have not been doing so, check your bank accounts daily. A little time is still left in the week, so payment may arrive within the promised week.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Francis says:

        My children received theirs by direct deposit. I have received my monthy payments by direct deposits also, so I’m assuming the back pay will be DD too. I did speak with the Technical Expert yesterday and she said it is awaiting the 2nd level of approval (which she said is the final approval). Just seems so strange that I have received 2 monthly payments, with the third coming next Wednesday, yet no official approval letter or back pay. It was a unique case, in that they reopened a former case. Regardless, hopefully the end is just hours or a day or two away. Thank you.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Francis,

          It is unusual to have a prior claim denial reopened, although occasionally it does happen. Your approval letter, when it comes, will confirm your first month of entitlement to benefits. That is the reason you have not received a letter as yet. The letter will be sent when the entitlement date and back pay amount have been approved in this special review.

          Regards,

          Kay

    • Brad says:

      Hi, Francis…

      I’d really appreciate it if you could let me know how you were able to acquire the phone number of your payment processing center (my back-pay is more than 6 months overdue). When I inquire with the national and local social security administration offices, they tell me that they don’t have a way of contacting the processing center. I would be so grateful if you could tell me how you obtained the number – or maybe you could e-mail me the actual number you used? I’m kind of desperate because I need the back-pay to help pay for a hernia operation. Thanks so much, and I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving and that you get your back-pay soon, too… Brad

  259. Ellen says:

    I have been seperated from my husband, not working and now living with my sister. An ALJ in Oct awarded me SSI and SSD. My first SSD monthly check will be Dec 24. I still do not know how much exactly for the SSI or the back payment amounts yet of either. I was told that the SSI will stop once my first SSD check arrives. How can something end before I ever get a check? I have a few questions: 1: If I decide to try to make my marriage work will it effect the SSI or SSD or both? 2: Can you give an est. of when I might be getting some back pay from either, based on when I was approved and got the award letter middle of Oct 2013? 3: why do the call it “Supplemental” when you have to pay it back if you draw SSD? Does not make since to me. I know one is Federal and one is Government…basically the same, heard of Federal Government?
    Thanks,
    Ellen

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ellen,

      Living with your husband will not affect your eligibility for Social Security Disability (SSD) benefits. If your SSI were not stopping because of receipt of Social Security and you began to live with him again, his income could affect your eligibility for SSI.

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) supplements other income, but only up to certain limits. It is a public assistance program for disabled and aged people who have income and assets below a certain limit. If you have been told that your SSI will stop when your Social Security starts, that means that your Social Security is more than the maximum SSI payable and no SSI is due once the Social Security starts.

      With regard to back pay, you will be paid total back pay equal to the highest amount you would have been eligible to receive had the two benefits, SSD and SSI, been paid in the months for which they were due. Typically, the Social Security Administration coordinates payment of back pay from the two programs so that you will not have to repay any funds. You may receive some from each program, especially if you were eligible for SSI during the SSD five-month waiting period during which benefits are not payable.

      As far as when you will receive back pay, hopefully it will be before the end of the year, but there are no guarantees. Recently, it seems that back payments are taking longer to process than they once did.

      Best regards,
      Kay

  260. NATE SCHMART says:

    I was just approved for SSD. I am currently receiving sick pay/leave from my work…. which goes until February of 2014. In Feb of 2014 I would be required to resign or be let go. Can I wait until Feb to resign or do I have to resign immediately from my position?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Nate,

      Your receiving Social Security Disabiltiy does not require you to resign from your position. Further, you can receive sick pay and Social Security at the same time so it would appear to be to your advantage to retain your employment status until your sick pay runs out.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • NATE SCHMART says:

        Thank you very much!

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Nate,

          Not too long ago the typical amount of time between receiving a first monthly Social Security check and back pay was a month or less. People who have received workers compensation usually wait longer for their back pay because special computations have to be performed. But, today it seems as if people are waiting much longer in general.

          If you have received your first check, I suggest that you contact your local Social Security office and ask what kind work has to be done to release the back pay and whether they need anything from you. Specifically ask whether your Social Security back pay is being held up for resolution of your SSI status. If so and you have have received a Supplemental Security Income (SSI) denial letter, be sure to tell the claims representative that you were denied SSI. If not you have not received an SSI denial letter, ask what you need to provide to resolve your eligibility for SSI and get back pay released.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  261. I’m sorry Kay my computer has some typo errors. Have a lot of misspelled words.

  262. I have a question I’ve been on ssi since 2008 I worked in 2012 I still rexueve ssi an unable to work due to more health issues they social security office says I put in enough work to get ssd so they had me apply for regular disability how long dies ut take to change over to ssd. An will I bee untitled to some back pay foe ssd?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Elizabeth,

      Initial claims for Social Security Disability usually take two to five months. Perhaps because you are receiving SSI, it will go a little quicker. You will receive back pay if you are eligible for more Social Security per month than you were getting in monthly SSI payments.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  263. Antoinette says:

    I applied for ssi for my son in aug2013 when will i hear something from them

  264. Natasha says:

    I just need to ask a question I apply for SSI AND THEY SENT ME A LETTER BACK WITH THE AMOUNT I WILL BE GETTING EACH MONTH DOES THAT MEAN IM APPROVED

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Natasha,

      Yes, I would say that you have been approved. Check your bank accounts to see if there has been a deposit.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  265. Sonja says:

    I was approved for SSD in January of this year (2013) and have yet to receive backpay. I got a letter stating the amount to be a little over $15,000 (disability from January 6 2010 forward, but they count the 5 months after that on). They have already estimated the award and my lawyer has been paid, but here it is November and still nothing to me. I have called the hotline and requested an inquiry. Is there anything else I could do? My backpay was estimated in February 2013 is it normal for it to take this long (nearly 10 months now)? I really need the money to pay bills (which I told them) and get back on track.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Sonja,

      No, it is not normal to wait for so long for your back pay. If you are able to go to a Social Security office, I suggest that you do so. Ask to speak to a claims representative and inquire whether there is some incorrect coding, such as SSI eligbility, on your record that is keeping the pay from being released. If they say that they see what the problem is, I suggest asking them to fix it while you wait.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  266. ms chocolate says:

    Hello I apply may 7 2013 and I’m still waitn….than I call and they said they were waiting they medical people ..what does that mean.thanks

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ms. Chocolate,

      The information you are getting means that a medical decision has not been made on your claim, that is, the Disability Determining Services have not decided whether or not you are disabled according to Social Security rules.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  267. Linda Nichols says:

    I was approved for Social Security Disability in July 2013 it is Nov and I still have not got my Social Security payments yet, I just get the run around from everyone. what can I do?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Linda,

      It is hard to advise you without knowing what Social Security is telling you. What information are you getting that seems like a “run around”?

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  268. Lori says:

    I am confused as to how my SSI back pay will be figured. I assumed that once I am approved for the financial side of SSI that it would be figured as follows. If my benefit amount is for example 300.00 a month then my back pay would be 300.00 a month x the number of months it has been since I filed. I filed on April of 2012. I was approved medically for SSI sept of 2013. I had my face to face with a social security rep last week, she wanted to see 18 months worth of pay stubs for my husband, she indicated that they will figure back pay on that, in other words some months I would be elgible for the back pay some months I will not. I had no idea it worked that way. I had to send 18 months of pay stubs yesterday to the SS lady, wow.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lori,

      Supplemental Security Income (SSI) eligibility and payments are determined on a month-by-month basis. Your husband’s earnings may be deemed to you (considered available for your support). In determining the amount of his income that is countable to reduce your SSI payment, the Social Security Administration will exclude a certain amount because the income comes from work (a work incentive); another amount for his own support; and, if you have minor children in the household, a certain amount for their support, if the children don’t have their own income above a certain amount. All of these factors will be used to determine which months you will be eligible for SSI back pay.

      You will also have to submit proof of your husband’s earnings on an ongoing basis. His earnings this month will be used to determine your payment amount for January 2014. December’s income will determine February’s payment and so on. If you report all changes right when they occur, you should be able to avoid overpayments.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Lori says:

        Thank you for your reply. If I am not elglible one month because my husband got some overtime, but the next month I am elgible again, does this mean I would also not be elgible for medicaid, health insurance benefits the month I did not get SSI due to too much income? The only reason we would not be elgible would be Overtime, other than that we should be fine.

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Lori,

          Whether or not your Medicaid would continue in months that you are not eligible for SSI will depend on whether your Medicaid eligibility is dependent on SSI eligibility. In some states, the criteria for eligibility for Medicaid is different than for SSI and could possibly continue. Once you get everything in place, I suggest that you check with your Medicaid office for an official answer on this.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

  269. Jenny says:

    I am a single parent. My two kids are disabled. They were approved for ssi last year and I was doing my own app but for social security. I just got approved and received my first payment. I tried to reach the worker since my monthly amount has now gone from welfare to soc sec it is a higher amount. What happens to my kids ssi amount now, they are on ssi and me I waived ssi and took soc sec disability since I had previously worked and the amount was slightly higher. I am concerned my kids and I won’t have medical now or won’t have enough income if their ssi payments go away. They each get full benefit right now but I need to reach someone to help me sort this out. In the meantime I am going insane with worry that I will have big paybacks since no worker called me back last month. Help please. We also got food stamps with medical but I get if I have enough coming in now it is the medical I cannot lose we are all in dr all the time everyday.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Jenny,

      You are right, your children’s eligibility for SSI does need to be redetermined now that you receive Social Security (and possible the amount of your food stamps.)

      Whether or not your Social Security affects your children’s SSI depends on how high it is. Additionally, if your Social Security family maximum is more than your own Social Security benefit, the children will receive Social Security Dependents benefits from your eanrings record. Their dependents benefit will reduce their SSI, but it seems unlikely that it will be so high as to stop the SSI entirely. Whether or not your Social Security and their potential dependents benefits together will be high enough to stop the SSI (and their Medicaid eligibility) will have to be determined by Social Security.

      I suggest that you call the Social Security call center if you cannot get through to the representative in your local office and ask for an appointment to get your children’s Social Security started and to get their SSI redetermined now that your Social Security has started. If that is not successful in getting an appointment set up in about a week, if it is possible for you, I suggest that you go to the office and ask to see a claims representative to report a change in family income that could affect your children’s SSI disability.

      As a hedge against possibly having to repay some of the SSI, you might put aside any amount you can of your Social Security, especially the amount that was above the welfare payment, just in case you have to make some repayment.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  270. Lorrie says:

    My adult son (who lives with me) received his disability starting October 2013. He received a lump sum of almost $6000.00 in back benefits. He currently has no real bills. He is on a waiting list for his own housing. What do we spend this money on? Are we allowed to save more than $2000? He will have expenses when he gets his apartment but he could be on the waiting list for a year or more. I would just like to save the money for when he gets his own housing. Thank you.

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Lorrie,

      Please clarify the following for me so that I can provide an appropriate answer.
      1. Was your son approved for Social Security Disability (SSD) based on his own work record, for disabled adult child benefits on your or his flather’s Social Security records or Supplmental Security Income (SSI) or both?
      2. If he was approved for both, will the SSI continue ongoing or is his Social Security too high for ongoing SSI?
      3. Do his payments come in your name for him or does he receive his benefits directly in his name?

      Thank you,

      Kay

      • Lorrie says:

        My son’s SSI was based on his work record. He is getting $710 a month. I believe this is ongoing. His payments come to me (his mother) as the payee. I hope I answered your questions. Thank you, Lorrie

        • Kay Derochie says:

          Dear Lorrie,

          What you can do with the retroactive pay and how much savings you can hold for your son’s future use depends on what kind of benefits he is receiving. You have provided conflicting information regarding the type of benefits he is getting. You say he is getting SSI based on his work record, which is not possible. If he is really receiving benefits based on his work record, then he is not receiving SSI (Supplemental Security Income); he is receiving Social Security (SSD or SSDI for short). The fact that he got $6,000 in a single lump sum would see to indicate it is Social Security, unless you made a special plea for release of full SSI back pay. $710 monthly is the maximum SSI amount, which could be a coincidence, if he is really receiving Social Security.

          The rules for savings and use of funds vary depending on whether the benefits are Social Security or SSI. I suggest that you look at his approval letter to see what the letterhead says. It will say whether it is Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or Disability, Retirement and Survivor benefits (Social Security). Then if you don’t mind, let me know for sure what kind of benefit he gets and I will provide some additional information about use of funds.

          Sincerely,

          Kay

          • Lorrie says:

            I am sorry for confusing things. This is all new to me. I have a Supplement Security Income Notice of Award for $710.00 a month. We also have a retirement, survivors and disability notice of award for $560.00 a month. He got a lump sum from retirement, survivors and disability of $5,633.00. Hope this helps. Thank you! Lorrie

          • Kay Derochie says:

            Dear Lorrie,

            I will take a guess at what has happened. I think that your son was paid SSI of $710 a month for months while his claim was pending and that his Social Security back pay was reduced for the SSI and that the $5,633 Social Security back pay was for months before the SSI application. If this is the case, then the Retirement, Survivors, and Disability notice should tell him that his Social Security back pay was reduced (offset) for SSI. I

            His ongoing SSI should be be $150 (the difference between $710 and $560.) However, keep in mind that SSI has a $2,000 resource limit. That said, SSDI and SSI back pay does not count toward the resource limit for nine months from the date it is received. It will count on the first of the following month after the nine months is up. If at that time your son has more than $2,000 in countable resources, his SSI will stop.

            Best regards,

            Kay

  271. ann says:

    I applied for disability 2012. I was got my first check Sept. 2013. I did not receive any back pay. Will I be awarded any?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Ann,

      You do not say whether you were approved for Social Security Disability (SSD) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or both or the date the Social Security Administration found you to be disabled, but I can provide the following general information. SSI is paid retroactively to the month of application for every month in which you were financially eligible. Social Security is paid beginning with the sixth full calendar month of disability, with the limitation that benefits can be paid for only twelve months prior to the month of application. Finally, if you are eligible for both SSI and SSD for the same retroactive months, payment of SSI and SSD will be coordinated so that you do not get duplicate disability payments for the same month.

      Best regards,

      Kay

  272. Melissa says:

    I was approved for my disability as a bench decision in October. I got the notice of decision letter. My onset date is November 2011. I got a letter saying that I had to come in for an appointment for my ssi. My question is they owe me back pay for my disability. Do they wait until after my appointment for the ssi to pay that?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Melissa,

      Yes, it is likely that you will not receive any payment until after your appointment. If you are approved for both SSD and SSI benefits can be coordinated.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

  273. dennis says:

    Kay i recieved a check from ssi for disibility ,although i greatly appreciate the check coming early ithought it would be more . do they send my waiting period checks first and then send my normal check when all the back pay is recieved? or do they send the rest of the waiting period amounts together with the normal monthly checks?i thought i would recieve an info letter before the first check ,instead of the other way around. when should i expect my monthly amount info? thanks for your help Dennis

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Dennis,

      Payments for back pay and for ongoing monthly benefits are paid separately. I cannot tell from the information you provided which you have received and what you are still waiting for. You should get a letter within one to two weeks.

      Regarding your question about being paid for the waiting period: SSI (Supplemental Security Income) does not have a waiting period. Social Security Disability has a five-month waiting period which is never paid. Benefits start with the sixth full calender month of disability.

      Sincerely,

      Kay

      • Rhonda M. says:

        Kay-
        My ex-husband started receiving ssdi and ssi payments in July 2013. Our children also started receiving payments. He was awarded backpay and since he owes me $15000 in back child support, they do garnish his monthly ssdi payment.
        In Sept, he received a ssi backpay amount and then they sent his ssdi backpay amount to me for his arrears.
        My question is, since he was told that he will receive two future ssi backpay amounts, do they do the same with the ssdi backpay, where they break it up into three lump sum payments?

        Thank you
        Rhonda M.

  274. Dear Kay
    I was approved for SSD early October (after appealing)and have been told my 2st check will be on Nov 27th. I have been calling about backpay,since my letter said I am owed backpay from February 2012,and each time have been told”Its at SSI and as soon as they release it it will go to processing center” Well finally the other day I spoke to a wonderful lady and was told they shouldnt have sent it to the SSI place because I applied for SSI back in 2010 and was refused and tis time I applied for and was approved for SSD,AND MY SSD amt will be over SSI guidlines for SSI…She said she sent the email to the processing center as we were talking so they could get in it as I am owed over 15800.00..so I checked(as I do every few days) and it IS at the processing center.That lady the other day says it tales 30-45 days once it getes to processing center and if they had sent it to the right place in the 1st place I would have had it already, She said I will probably get it before my foirst check is deposited..I am hoping this is true.Any thoughts on what the processing center actually does and time it takes?

    • Kay Derochie says:

      Dear Linda,

      The processing center has several functions. One can be to release benefits on new entitlement. The representative at the Social Security office is likely to have given you a correct time frame.

      The only question I have is about the information that you were given that SSI processing is not applicable. SSI eligibility is based on income actually received in a month, not on what was due and paid later. You were not receiving Social Security while your claims pended a decision, so what the representative could have meant is that they completed the Social Security/SSI offset review much earlier and should have sent it to the payment center earlier. (See my messages earlier today to Kurt and Dennis for a little more informtion about SSI offset.

      Best regards,

      Kay